Battlefield 3

[Azazel]

RO ?

Oh and btw, why do we hate this game again ?

Though it seems just as many or more of use are squeeing in anticipation.

[Malakili]

Oh and btw, why do we hate this game again ?

I think because it seems more BFBC3 than BF3.  Also, Origin.

[HaemishM]

I don't know what the fuck you guys are kvetching about. Ok, I do hate that this is not on Steam, but other than that, I'm positively erect at the thought of BF3 and hoping to upgrade my computer just to play it.

[rk47]

Oh and btw, why do we hate this game again ?

I think because it seems more BFBC3 than BF3.  Also, Origin.

?? What is it about BF2 that seems 'better' than BC2 multiplayer?
The availability of jetplanes that absolutely rape the ground?
The Heli TV guided missiles that destroys everything from 400 metres?
I know the map is smaller, hell, but it's just 32 players max. Wish there's more.

[Azazel]

I do love BC2, but honestly, I love the wide huge open spaces of BF1942/DC/BF2. Scope, size, flanking etc rather than being funneled into a small area. DC had a couple of "push" maps that seem to have influenced the "rush" gameplay, and while I enjoy rush, I think some "push" maps would have been equally awesome.

[Malakili]

I do love BC2, but honestly, I love the wide huge open spaces of BF1942/DC/BF2. Scope, size, flanking etc rather than being funneled into a small area. DC had a couple of "push" maps that seem to have influenced the "rush" gameplay, and while I enjoy rush, I think some "push" maps would have been equally awesome.

This is mostly it for me.  I think the scale just isn't as impressive.  Its possible there will be some larger scale maps in BF3, and if there are, I suspect I will feel more compelled to buy it. The maps we have seen seem bigger than BC2, but not relative to the number of players.    I am currently hoping that Tribes Ascend comes closer if BF3 doesn't, but I've heard some criticism of the maps being smaller in that as well, so I guess we will see.

[Nebu]

I do love BC2, but honestly, I love the wide huge open spaces of BF1942/DC/BF2. Scope, size, flanking etc rather than being funneled into a small area. DC had a couple of "push" maps that seem to have influenced the "rush" gameplay, and while I enjoy rush, I think some "push" maps would have been equally awesome.

It's like you can read my mind. 

I loved BF1942 for the fact that it really balanced twitch and tactics well.  Larger maps allowed for more varied gameplay.  It seems that most shooters cramp players into a small space forcing much more twitchy play.  I prefer a better balance and hop that I'll find a more current game that can strike a better strategy/twitch balance. 

[Speedy Cerviche]

?? What is it about BF2 that seems 'better' than BC2 multiplayer?
The availability of jetplanes that absolutely rape the ground?
The Heli TV guided missiles that destroys everything from 400 metres?
I know the map is smaller, hell, but it's just 32 players max. Wish there's more.

I hope they learned their lesson with overpowered aerial units in BF2. In BF1942 they got it right where planes were unrealistically slow and weak for balance purposes. In bf42 you could do heavy damage to a plane with an assault rifle or even SMG clip if the you caught it on a good angle and unloaded into the engine (and infantryman could survive a hit from a bazooka, so anti tankers wouldn't be aggressively runring around shotgunning people with them). Then came Desert Combat and their more "realistic" super weapons that basically nerfed infantrymen and powered up heavier weapon platforms. Being immensly popular (all the mouthbreathers love spamming out 1 hit kills + iraq timing), the DC devs were hired by DICE for BF2, whereupon the duplicated the same crappy balance in the new game.

So far from what DICE has said, and those slow flying jets from the Capsian map MP trailer has given me some reason to be optimistic that DICE has returned to some semblance of BF1942 balance where it takes precedence over super weapon high powered "realism".

[Azazel]

Heh, I kicked all kinds of arse as infantry in DC. I was also a tank-player, but fuck - with the stinger and RPG combo, while I couldnt do shit to planes, I would seriously fuck up armour and choppers on a regular constant basis.

[Nebu]

I hated DC.  I played it for a couple of days with friends and never went back. 

[Azazel]

I loved it, it made a nice change up from 1942. I spent a long time alternating between the two of them/playing both. The amount of new maps that DC came with was also quite welcome. A lot more than most commercial MP titles come with these days, come to think of it.

[Sheepherder]

I hope they learned their lesson with overpowered aerial units in BF2. In BF1942 they got it right where planes were unrealistically slow and weak for balance purposes. In bf42 you could do heavy damage to a plane with an assault rifle or even SMG clip if the you caught it on a good angle and unloaded into the engine (and infantryman could survive a hit from a bazooka, so anti tankers wouldn't be aggressively runring around shotgunning people with them).

Shooting down aircraft with small arms is actually very possible.  There's a reason the A-10 is built like a brick shithouse.

[Pringles]

Infantry Only is coming back as an option in BF3, so there is always that.

Tweak your game with Hardcore and Infantry Only settings

Not a fan of vehicles? No problem -- just click the “Infantry Only” box in your server browser when searching for a server game where no attack vehicles will spawn in, only transports. This is a great way to get a feel for the game or the map before you go all-out warfare.

[Hawkbit]

Beta Sept 29th-Oct 10th.  All platforms.  If they let me test both PC and PS3 versions, they guarantee a sale from me on one of the platforms.  I hate not knowing how stuff will play on my PC. 

http://blogs.battlefield.ea.com/battlefield_bad_company/archive/2011/09/19/battlefield-3-open-beta-dates-announced.aspx##

[MisterNoisy]

System Requirements are up:

Minimum System Requirements
OS: WINDOWS VISTA (SERVICE PACK 2) 32-BIT
PROCESSOR: 2 GHZ DUAL CORE (CORE 2 DUO 2.4 GHZ OR ALTHON X2 2.7 GHZ)
MEMORY: 2 GB
HARD DRIVE: 20 GB
GRAPHICS CARD (AMD): DIRECTX 10.1 COMPATIBLE WITH 512 MB RAM (ATI RADEON 3000, 4000, 5000 OR 6000 SERIES, WITH ATI RADEON 3870 OR HIGHER PERFORMANCE)
GRAPHICS CARD (NVIDIA): DIRECTX 10.0 COMPATIBLE WITH 512 MB RAM (NVIDIA GEFORCE 8, 9, 200, 300, 400 OR 500 SERIES WITH NVIDIA GEFORCE 8800 GT OR HIGHER PERFORMANCE)
SOUND CARD: DIRECTX COMPATIBLE
KEYBOARD AND MOUSE
DVD ROM DRIVE

Recommended System Requirements
OS: WINDOWS 7 64-BIT
PROCESSOR: QUAD-CORE CPU
MEMORY: 4 GB
HARD DRIVE: 20 GB
GRAPHICS CARD: DIRECTX 11 COMPATIBLE WITH 1024 MB RAM (NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 560 OR ATI RADEON 6950)
SOUND CARD: DIRECTX COMPATIBLE
KEYBOARD AND MOUSE
DVD ROM DRIVE

[HaemishM]

Yep, not going to be able to get this until I upgrade my computer. FUCK. I really don't want to try to put Windows 7 on this machine.

[WayAbvPar]

Yep, not going to be able to get this until I upgrade my computer. FUCK. I really don't want to try to put Windows 7 on this machine.

Sell a kidney*- you gotta play!




*doesn't have to be YOUR kidney.

[HaemishM]

I'm thinking I'll be able to upgrade before Christmas so I won't be too far off.

[Sheepherder]

Windows 7 is actually kind of nice.  It's the Windows XP to Vista's Windows 2000.

[Furiously]

Yep, not going to be able to get this until I upgrade my computer. FUCK. I really don't want to try to put Windows 7 on this machine.

Sell a kidney*- you gotta play!

My father-in-law needs one.

[Vision]

A 6950 for MEDIUM? I wonder how much difference a 2GB GPU would make over a 1GB 6950.

[tgr]

Probably not much. Worst case, you'll have to turn the textures down a notch or two, and still not notice anything.

[Vision]

I just talked to two Origin reps over live chat and they told me the exact opposite things, it was almost funny.

Basically one said BF3 is region locked, and I won't be able to play on US servers if I'm in Asia, the other said it wasn't a problem and that there was no region locking. Anyone in alpha remember having a server list from foreign servers?

[Pringles]

A 6950 for MEDIUM? I wonder how much difference a 2GB GPU would make over a 1GB 6950.

I read that recommended is for high not medium

[Azazel]

Hm, looks like I won't be able to buy/play BF3....

I have a GTX 460 (4gb) which runs everything I've tried to date with ease, I've updated the drivers as far as NVIDIA's site wants to know about (280.26) but BF3 (Beta) won't boot and tells me to get 285.27 or GTFO.

Time to cancel them pre-orders, I guess. :(

[Azazel]

Yeap, looks like to run BF3 at Medium settings, I'd need to buy a Graphics card that has the cost of 1.5 new Xboxes. To play at High I need to buy a card that costs the same as 2 XBoxes.

Looks like I'm a console player, if I want to bother (probably won't).

[tgr]

You mean these?

http://www.nvidia.com/object/win7-winvista-64bit-285.27-beta-driver.html

Also, medium settings? Heh. I always turn the resolution up and the graphical geewhiz down.

[Azazel]

Hm, beta drivers, eh?

I'll have a look tomorrow or the next day, then. Gonna go back to Sons of Anarchy for the next little while.

[tgr]

But what's this about a graphics card that costs 1.5 new xboxes? I'm running a 285, and the main difference (I guess?) is DX11, performance seems (after a quick google to be more or less equal). Most of the time I'll be running the games at 2560x1600, and the only thing I really have to tune down is AA.

[Surlyboi]

In early on the 360 beta. 1.3 gig download.

Aaaaand there's nobody else on at the moment.

[bhodi]

Apparently they are having quite the meltdown with the PC version.

Some moderate DICE comedy so far, with being unable to change any settings until you join a game, like video settings, so servers are filled with people fucking around on first time configs. Apparently the matching website thing is also imploding and people can't join servers that have people.

I'm staying away from this because of origin unless it's truly the second coming. I'll give it a while to even out.

[Azazel]

In early on the 360 beta. 1.3 gig download.

Aaaaand there's nobody else on at the moment.

How'd you get in on the 360 beta. Can the code they sent be used cross-platform?

[Azazel]

But what's this about a graphics card that costs 1.5 new xboxes? I'm running a 285, and the main difference (I guess?) is DX11, performance seems (after a quick google to be more or less equal). Most of the time I'll be running the games at 2560x1600, and the only thing I really have to tune down is AA.

There was some link to a website to see if your computer was ready for prime time Battlefield 3 and it recommended a 550/560/570. A quick check of my local computer hardware place (Aussie prices, remember) showed that the 570 goes for roughly $560-$600+. Since I can pick up a 360 for $300 or less...

Anyway, I think I'll cancel the preorder and wait out the launch clusterfuck. Shame, I wanted the Return to Karkand pack, too.

[Surlyboi]

In early on the 360 beta. 1.3 gig download.

Aaaaand there's nobody else on at the moment.

How'd you get in on the 360 beta. Can the code they sent be used cross-platform?

Bought Medal of Honor, got me in early. Pretty sure the code's just for the 360 though.

First blush, it's pretty as all hell. The one map I played on was intense, though CoDtards will probably cry copying for the location, it's pretty solid.

[snowwy]

"Pre-order to get early access" my ass. 10 hours in and still no mail. /sadpanda
Nothing on my Origin-page to even acknowledge i pre-ordered the game. Besides a receipt e-mail, nada. Asked a EA-rep about this and was told that because it was a pre-order it wouldn't show   .....what?
10 bucks says I won't get in at all. Apparently several thousand people in the Live Help-chat queue

edit: And finally it arrived. DL'ing and squeeing ( i forget easily)