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Reply #70 on: February 01, 2011, 06:40:15 AM

Just because it hasn't gotten a lot of notice here - I love Craggenmore.  It's a nice and reasonably priced Speyside.  Definitely more on the light and sweet side as opposed to the dark and peaty.

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Reply #71 on: February 01, 2011, 07:04:10 AM

Mohitos.  Ugh.  When I bartended (and when I still occasionally help a buddy out at his pub he's trying to get going), if somebody ordered a mohito there were two things that were going to happen: 
It's going to take you forever to get it
It's going to taste as much like ass as possible.

Hate making those things.  Trendy fucking hipsters at my bar?  Fuck that.  Get your patchouli stench outta here.

Anyway, never have had any love for scotch.  I've tried the high end, the low end, and everything in between.  Tastes like (what I imagine to be) turpentine.  I generally just stick to beer, merlot, and maybe a decent bourbon every now and then during football season.  My hardcore, puke-and-rally drinking days are far far behind me.
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Reply #72 on: February 01, 2011, 08:01:18 AM

Anyone who orders a mojito at a pub deserves to be punched in the face.

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Reply #73 on: February 01, 2011, 03:53:36 PM

Mohitos.  Ugh.  When I bartended (and when I still occasionally help a buddy out at his pub he's trying to get going), if somebody ordered a mohito there were two things that were going to happen: 
It's going to take you forever to get it
It's going to taste as much like ass as possible.

Hate making those things.  Trendy fucking hipsters at my bar?  Fuck that.  Get your patchouli stench outta here.

Anyway, never have had any love for scotch.  I've tried the high end, the low end, and everything in between.  Tastes like (what I imagine to be) turpentine.  I generally just stick to beer, merlot, and maybe a decent bourbon every now and then during football season.  My hardcore, puke-and-rally drinking days are far far behind me.

If made with: real mint, decent rum, and IMO honey or agave necter it is a great great summer drink.

My good friend had an even which we later dubbed "Bad Thursday" after we went out on a wednesday night drinking rum drinks, freshly made mojitos weighed in pretty heavily.  Don't spend enough time in bars anymore to know what the cool kids are drinking, but a well made mojito is a classic hot summertime drink in my book.

As for Scotch, I haven't been able to find it anywhere here in NM, but back in Cali I loved this stuff:  Glenmorangie Burgundy Cask (10 year scotch aged last two years in burgundy barrels).  I am not a true Scotchead, but I find this stuff simply amazing.

http://www.singlemalt.com.au/malts/glenmorangie_burgundy_cask.php

hmm looks liike they may no longer make it :(

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Reply #74 on: February 01, 2011, 06:56:43 PM

Mohitos.  Ugh.  When I bartended (and when I still occasionally help a buddy out at his pub he's trying to get going), if somebody ordered a mohito there were two things that were going to happen: 
It's going to take you forever to get it
It's going to taste as much like ass as possible.

Hate making those things.  Trendy fucking hipsters at my bar?  Fuck that.  Get your patchouli stench outta here.

Anyway, never have had any love for scotch.  I've tried the high end, the low end, and everything in between.  Tastes like (what I imagine to be) turpentine.  I generally just stick to beer, merlot, and maybe a decent bourbon every now and then during football season.  My hardcore, puke-and-rally drinking days are far far behind me.

Hipsters don't smell like patchouli. That's hippies. That said, as former owner of a bar, I agree with you wholeheartedly. You want a mojito? Get the fuck out.

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Reply #75 on: February 01, 2011, 07:49:03 PM

I'll substitute a mat shot for the rum if I get a chance.  Barring that, shortpouring the rum and overloading the bitters works well

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Reply #76 on: February 01, 2011, 07:53:36 PM

(ri)1 Kentucky, but wishes it was Canadian rye. Smooth and fruity start with a dry finish. Not bad straight, but better in old fashioneds and sazeracs.

Fixed.

Never tried it, but proper Rye usually burns a little on the way down.
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Reply #77 on: February 01, 2011, 09:01:36 PM

Want some Rye?
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Reply #78 on: February 02, 2011, 12:35:29 AM

Is it a trap?

EDIT: Since I should add something to this thread.  This is some sort of Danish take on Gin, it's actually rather tasty.
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Reply #79 on: February 02, 2011, 09:02:28 AM

I don't know what it is, I have made every effort to develop a taste for whiskey of some sort, but it will not happen. I enjoy the taste of a good tequila or rum, but every form of whiskey I have tried, from Crown or JD, up to an aged Glenfiditch - just makes me wretch. I have yet to find anything that I find tastes more repelant than the aftertaste of a sip of whiskey.

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Reply #80 on: February 02, 2011, 12:22:04 PM

Is it a trap?

EDIT: Since I should add something to this thread.  This is some sort of Danish take on Gin, it's actually rather tasty.
Yeah, friend of mine just married a Norwegian girl.  They are all about that shit (its the national drink of Norway apparently, and every year there is a contest to see which city makes the best). 

It taste like black licorice.  Just like every other hard alcohol that comes from Scandinavia.  Personally can't stand it, but I know people who love Sambuca and shit, so, there you go.

And yeah, (ri)1 is Jim Beans new higher end brand, not Canadian (lucky for it.  tongue).

I've tried a few more Bourbons lately.  I'd recommend Elijah Craig 12 year (I haven't tried the 18 year, so can't vouch, but I'm sure its great).  Its smooth, has a nice Carmel after taste, and is amazingly priced.  Hard to find a 12 year Bourbon for this cheap.

Knob Creek is also good, but has a bit more of a kick (which some people prefer).

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Reply #81 on: February 02, 2011, 12:27:28 PM


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Reply #82 on: February 02, 2011, 12:49:50 PM

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Reply #83 on: February 02, 2011, 12:55:12 PM

If you want Bourbon start with Cabin Still, it is $13 for a liter and superior to most $2X and many options up to $3X for a 750ml bottle. You'll only find Cabin Still at places like BevMo or other specialty stores.

Through the $2X range you will find the stuff you can find everywhere. Of all of it Bullit is very sweet if that's your thing. You should probably find out if you hate Maker's Mark as many do so you never get it by mistake in a bar. There is also Wild Turkey 101 proof which I have a sweet spot for but is nothing special. Knob Creek & Woodford Reserve are the two best at under $35 bourbons you can find everywhere. Once you get up to $3X+ you should be buying stuff you will not find at your local grocery store.

There are lots of good things to be found in Bourbon at $3X-6X a bottle but it really depends on what you like.

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Reply #84 on: February 02, 2011, 02:38:13 PM

Blanton's is my top high end bourbon and has been for a while. Runs about 50 bucks but you get a cool little metal horsie.

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Reply #85 on: February 02, 2011, 04:49:46 PM

Yeah, I keep meaning to try that one.  Heard good things.

And yeah, Woodford Reserve is also quite good.

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Reply #86 on: February 03, 2011, 12:29:37 AM

Elijah Craig 12 year old is really nice. The 18 is also good but just a tiny bit too sweet, it seems to lack the complexity of the 12 so unless you really love smoothness above all else I'd say you're better off with the 12. I do want to try Woodford Reserve, especially since it's so much easier to get hold of.

Presently working on an Aberlour A'bunadh and a Balvenie 14 Cuban both of which are really nice. Need to restock on my Talisker and Redbreast though and also want to try a bottle of Green Spot that's apparently a small batch Irish whiskey the internet is all excited about. Possibly it's really nice and possibly they're just raving because it's relatively hard to get hold of but it's certainly caught my interest.

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Reply #87 on: February 03, 2011, 12:30:57 PM

How hard is it for you to get Bourbon in the UK NowhereMan?  Actually, what caused you to try it?  I've had fun introducing Euro friends to Bourbon since many have never tried it, and they all seem to love it (the bottle of Woodford went over very well in Norway, they all thought it was better than Congac, which is what they normally drink after meals).  So I'm always curious to hear how others got it into.

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Reply #88 on: February 03, 2011, 02:02:03 PM

If you want Bourbon start with Cabin Still, it is $13 for a liter and superior to most $2X and many options up to $3X for a 750ml bottle. You'll only find Cabin Still at places like BevMo or other specialty stores.

Through the $2X range you will find the stuff you can find everywhere. Of all of it Bullit is very sweet if that's your thing. You should probably find out if you hate Maker's Mark as many do so you never get it by mistake in a bar. There is also Wild Turkey 101 proof which I have a sweet spot for but is nothing special. Knob Creek & Woodford Reserve are the two best at under $35 bourbons you can find everywhere. Once you get up to $3X+ you should be buying stuff you will not find at your local grocery store.

There are lots of good things to be found in Bourbon at $3X-6X a bottle but it really depends on what you like.

I did the Maker's Mark distillery tour. At the end there is a tasting. They gave us some aged and some unaged (white) stuff and said "see how you can taste the mellowing in the aging process and the hints of vanilla and caramel?"

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Reply #89 on: February 04, 2011, 08:41:32 AM

The taste of Maker's Mark reminds me of the smell of a filthy aquarium.

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Reply #90 on: February 04, 2011, 10:22:07 AM

How hard is it for you to get Bourbon in the UK NowhereMan?  Actually, what caused you to try it?  I've had fun introducing Euro friends to Bourbon since many have never tried it, and they all seem to love it (the bottle of Woodford went over very well in Norway, they all thought it was better than Congac, which is what they normally drink after meals).  So I'm always curious to hear how others got it into.

It's pretty easy to get most bourbons, Elijah Craig seems to be stupid hard to get hold of though. Oddbins seem to be the only highstreet retailer that sells it and then only the 12 year old (and even then they've hardly ever got it in). Makers Mark and Woodford are pretty common, Four Roses I've seen more and more as well. Really I started drinking it because I like whisk(e)y and at university our Whisky society had an 'international' tasting that included Jim Beam. The consensus was that we could see how this could be a nice style of drink but that the bottle we had was horrible and it left me curious to try some decent stuff. My next project is to develop a taste for rum Oh ho ho ho. Reallllly?

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Reply #91 on: February 11, 2011, 11:34:14 AM

Does anyone have any advice regarding Tokaji Aszu, or any makers they would recommend?

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Reply #92 on: February 11, 2011, 11:37:32 AM

As far as Bourbon, if you can get a bottle of Knob Creek, Bakers or Bookers you will be a very happy person.
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Reply #93 on: February 11, 2011, 04:46:13 PM

stilll perplexed at the over the top mojito hatred.

Found a bourbon I had never seen before,  Rip Van Winkle, 107 proof, was ~$33.  Was told it is a small label that just doesn't produce much.  Pretty good stuff, I would take this over most bourbons any day.

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Reply #94 on: February 11, 2011, 05:06:52 PM

Heh, interesting.  They have an interesting back story if their website is to be believed:
http://www.oldripvanwinkle.com/newbs/vw/website3.nsf/PagesByName/Heritage?opendocument&t=Heritage

The Pappy Van Winkle 20 year they claim is suppose to be one of the highest rated whiskeys ever, and reviews on the internet seem to be very good.  I may have to see if I can find a bar where I can try it at.

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Reply #95 on: February 11, 2011, 05:11:11 PM

I've heard of Rip Van Winkle, mostly good things but I've never seen a bottle over in the UK. fakeedit: Yeah, all internet feedback I've heard has been very good. Kind of wish it would show up on a random shop shelf sometime now.

Sadly while I've tried Tokaji I can't remember which maker it was and don't know enough to make any recommendations outside of other dessert wines.

Apparently I'm getting to go to Dublin next week to help with some presentations. My plans firmly include sneaking off to buy some Green Spot whiskey that's produced primarily for one Dublin wine merchant.

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Reply #96 on: February 12, 2011, 03:42:06 AM

Went out after work with a buddy this week who is a bourbon drinker. He told me he likes Knob Creek because its "sweet" and a great sipping bourbon.

So I ordered a shot. I tried it, I really tried to sip and like it.
It still tasted like paint remover.
To make him feel better I told him it tasted like "sweet" paint remover.
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Reply #97 on: February 12, 2011, 05:02:18 AM

Went out after work with a buddy this week who is a bourbon drinker. He told me he likes Knob Creek because its "sweet" and a great sipping bourbon.

So I ordered a shot. I tried it, I really tried to sip and like it.
It still tasted like paint remover.
To make him feel better I told him it tasted like "sweet" paint remover.

Did you get it over ice, or straight?
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Reply #98 on: February 12, 2011, 10:06:04 AM

Went out after work with a buddy this week who is a bourbon drinker. He told me he likes Knob Creek because its "sweet" and a great sipping bourbon.

So I ordered a shot. I tried it, I really tried to sip and like it.
It still tasted like paint remover.
To make him feel better I told him it tasted like "sweet" paint remover.

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Reply #99 on: February 12, 2011, 12:00:01 PM

Some people won't ever get the taste for bourbon or scotch. Not really their fault, any more than being lactose intolerant is anyone's fault.

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Reply #100 on: February 12, 2011, 01:00:59 PM

Knob creek is not the smoothest bourbon out there by a long shot. It sounds like straight whiskey ain't your thing but if you're a glutton for punishment and want to try again I'd go with Woodford Reserve for bourbon, or Tomintoul 18 for scotch. If you don't like Tomintoul, whiskey isn't for you.
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Reply #101 on: February 12, 2011, 01:19:42 PM

Some people won't ever get the taste for bourbon or scotch. Not really their fault, any more than being lactose intolerant is anyone's fault.

I disagree. I think we should blame them for their failing and punch them in the dick.

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Reply #102 on: February 12, 2011, 01:32:50 PM

Some people won't ever get the taste for bourbon or scotch. Not really their fault, any more than being lactose intolerant is anyone's fault.

I disagree. I think we should blame them for their failing and punch them in the dick.

Especially the women.

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Reply #103 on: February 12, 2011, 05:34:41 PM

So suddenly I've come to like Unicum...weird.

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Reply #104 on: February 12, 2011, 05:54:17 PM

Knob Creek is a very good "reachable" bourbon, meaning you don't have to get a second mortgage on your house to walk out of the liquor store with it.  There are certainly better bourbons, but at its price point there isn't much better.  I'm not a huge Woodford Reserve fan, but will drink it when pressed  awesome, for real.  Baker's and Booker's are both top notch and would recommend them to anyone that hasn't tried them yet. 
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