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							Man, I kind of wish the Penny-Arcade forum crew hadn't decided to start up an IPY presence, since now I don't know who I want to roll with.     
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							It's cool man, you have a place with us if you want. Maybe if activity is exceptionally poor for us, I'll follow you to PA land :) 
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							Or the other way around for me. 
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							I am inexplicably intrigued by this. 
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							So before I dive into this (I picked up UO:Ren and played for like two months; didn't really take) how is this legal? Not that this would be a huge hurdle but I don't quite get how this is legal but WoW shards are illegal. 
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							It isn't.  Origin / EA just has never really been interested in fighting it if they're not blatantly attempting to turn a profit. 
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							And apparently EA doesn't care that much if they do. See the UOAssist guy who has been and continues to sell his software for actual money for over a decade. 
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							derp, double post 
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							And apparently EA doesn't care that much if they do. See the UOAssist guy who has been and continues to sell his software for actual money for over a decade.
  How is UOAssist illegal? It's a macro program.  
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							I don't ever recall mentioning legality or lack thereof. Generally I'd imagine most game companies nowadays would frown on unaffiliated third parties making a buck off of their services by offering third-party apps that hook into their client. 
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							So before I dive into this (I picked up UO:Ren and played for like two months; didn't really take) how is this legal? Not that this would be a huge hurdle but I don't quite get how this is legal but WoW shards are illegal.
  One important distinction between UO and WOW was timing. Most fundamental reverse engineering of the UO protocols and such happened from 1997 to 1998. In October 98, a little law called the DMCA was passed which included language that can be used to shut down all reverse engineering of anything the manufacturer labels a "protection measure". That was one of the main weapons used against the WOW emulation projects.  
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							So before I dive into this (I picked up UO:Ren and played for like two months; didn't really take) how is this legal? Not that this would be a huge hurdle but I don't quite get how this is legal but WoW shards are illegal.
  One important distinction between UO and WOW was timing. Most fundamental reverse engineering of the UO protocols and such happened from 1997 to 1998. In October 98, a little law called the DMCA was passed which included language that can be used to shut down all reverse engineering of anything the manufacturer labels a "protection measure". That was one of the main weapons used against the WOW emulation projects. 13 million or so players helps also.    
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							No Nerf, but I put a link to this very thread and I said that you all can guarantee for my purity. I even mentioned your case, and see if they can take a look at your lawn from a Michigan perspective.
   
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							So before I dive into this (I picked up UO:Ren and played for like two months; didn't really take) how is this legal? Not that this would be a huge hurdle but I don't quite get how this is legal but WoW shards are illegal.
  When you installed the software you probably clicked "agree" to a Terms of Service that read something like "The Software is licensed to you for play on the Service only. Electronic Arts does not grant you a license to use the Software for any other purpose. You agree to play Ultima Online only on the Service and not through any other means." On the other hand, nothing's actually going to happen to you if you ignore the ToS. So I guess it depends how you feel about these things.  
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							I guess I need to clarify. I don't really care either way. It's just a point of curiosity on my part. 
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							Since the IPY forums are down, I'm really curious as to some of the mechanics Az hasn't specifically mentioned, like whether or not you can heal through poison without having to cure it first, if treasure chests work differently, or just what the deal with special hits is. 
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							I think I can safely answer those....
  You can heal through poison.
  Well, actually not sure what you are asking about with the chests.
  There are no special hits. 
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							I'm not sure what I mean by the chests either. Someone else was asking me about them.
  Pretty ambivalent about the special hits, but healing through poison is kind of a bummer. 
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							Friday night, fellas.
  There will be a live video stream posted for those that would like to stand back and observe the mayhem. 
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							F  is inviting you to start Quarto. Do you want to Accept (Alt+C) or Decline (Alt+D) the invitation?      You have accepted the invitation to start Quarto.    F  says: don't know what this is Az  says: I think it's like Az  says: where we pour milk on the stomach alien from total recall 
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							Slayerik
							
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							I'm not sure what I mean by the chests either. Someone else was asking me about them.
  Pretty ambivalent about the special hits, but healing through poison is kind of a bummer.
  No-Healing through poison just made me spend tons on GC pots. I'm pumped Az....you said night so I won't bother taking Friday off work :)  
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							So if I trade for a glacial staff, dye my robe the brightest color on the tub, and sit at the WBB, what is the TTG? (time to ganked)    
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							The time it takes someone to bank their stuff and get enough purple pots to bomb you, probably. 
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							Gonna tell my GF now that Friday is reserved ;).  I gotta get all my character names in since I really like your name generator and how it catches dupes. 
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							There is a timer after aggressive action where ANY players cannot gate/recall. No Red specific nerf. 
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							that's a little disappointing 
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							Launch delayed until Feb. 11th.Very disappointed, and three weeks seems like a really small amount of time to fix and polish up all the existing stuff, implement and test new game systems, and even launch a new website and forums.  
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							Yeah, I do apologize to everyone. But I've just been working on this for so long that I don't want it to flop because of bugs and incomplete stuff.
  We're very close and we can get enough done in 3 weeks to be somewhere good. 
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							Hey man, ya gotta do what ya gotta do. I know I selfishly wanted release, but hell....we've waited this long - polish her up and lets roll in three weeks. 
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							This actually works perfectly for me. I am going to a hockey game Friday night and will be in no shape to try to deal with re-learning UO when I get home. I also was coerced into starting WoW again- by the 11th I will probably be good and sick of it again.  
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							No problem, Az, keep working on it 'til you feel it's ready :) 
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							I am not disappointed at all.  I'll be honest I was looking forward to playing and getting with my buds Slayer/Cheddar and making new ones, but that is OK because I would also rather have something that is in a good working condition and not just mediocre.  If people truly are interested enough they will gladly wait the time needed for a good working product. 
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							Seriously, fuck facebook.  I'm not joining a goddamn spyware scam aimed at scraping my personal information in order to better serve me ads, just so I can follow an illegal implementation of a server based around a failed MMO. 
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							Thanks for contributing to the conversation.
  I like the custom housing and hope there's even more than what he showed. Now I'm more interested in playing, though I know I won't be PVPing much. Probably be one of those weirdos who crafts all the time. 
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