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Reply #280 on: February 14, 2011, 05:36:50 AM

I look at it as a quality of life thing.  It would detrimentally affect my quality of life if the two morbidly obese people behind me took to having sex-romps in their pool.   I'm ok with them not being allowed to.

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Reply #281 on: February 14, 2011, 05:46:56 AM

On the other hand, there is a very successful porn site based in Florida focused on showing people having sex while in a moving vehicle.
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Reply #282 on: February 14, 2011, 05:57:46 AM

And what if the car is moving, like, on route from the airport to downtown Orlando?

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Reply #283 on: February 14, 2011, 05:59:09 AM

Don't listen to them Falc, penises want to be free. Also Fuck Tha Police was a love song.

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Reply #284 on: February 14, 2011, 06:47:32 AM

On the other hand, there is a very successful porn site based in Florida focused on showing people having sex while in a moving vehicle.

Isn't the Florida porn industry based around Miami?

Miami is like another planet compared to northern Florida.

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Reply #285 on: February 14, 2011, 06:58:25 AM

On the other hand, there is a very successful porn site based in Florida focused on showing people having sex while in a moving vehicle.

Isn't the Florida porn industry based around Miami?

Miami is like another planet compared to northern Florida.

The law should be the same even if enforcement is less stringent. I suspect porn producers are simply prepared to deal with any public indecency charges, on the off chance of getting caught in the act, as one of the costs of doing business.
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Reply #286 on: February 14, 2011, 08:07:57 AM

Pretty much, yes.  Not to mention they're US citizens already and not apt to run into international problems should they get arrested.

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Reply #287 on: February 14, 2011, 08:26:19 AM

I am speechless at the USA.
Well, remember you are a foreigner. Americans can pull that kind of shit off all the time, because we don't have to worry about deportation or dealing with courts in a foreign country and whatnot. Everyone else likes to mock your antics, but it's nothing I wasn't up to back in the 80s and 90s.

Another thing is that locals should know better places to pull off such shenanigans.
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Reply #288 on: February 14, 2011, 08:40:51 AM

I am speechless at the USA.
Well, remember you are a foreigner. Americans can pull that kind of shit off all the time, because we don't have to worry about deportation or dealing with courts in a foreign country and whatnot. Everyone else likes to mock your antics, but it's nothing I wasn't up to back in the 80s and 90s.

Another thing is that locals should know better places to pull off such shenanigans.
I don't think people are mocking his antics so much, it's more the naiveté of expecting the same laissez-faire attitude towards sex and nudity that's common in continental Europe to hold in the US. Remember that Falc comes from a country where the Prime Minister's approval rating climbed after he admitted to multiple affairs.

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Reply #289 on: February 14, 2011, 09:08:45 AM

Don't be a jackass. I mean really. It frankly is not the height of puritanism to not want to see or have your kids see people fucking in a car on the goddammed highway. Try to have at least a modicum of class.

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Reply #290 on: February 14, 2011, 10:18:01 AM

Not to mention the fact that cars are not the most comfortable places imaginable to make whoopee.

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Reply #291 on: February 14, 2011, 10:33:54 AM

A tilt steering wheel helps - more headroom.   awesome, for real

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Reply #292 on: February 14, 2011, 10:35:46 AM

Not to mention the fact that cars are not the most comfortable places imaginable to make whoopee.

No doubt.  I was more than happy when I moved on to college because it meant I didn't have to have sex in a car ever again.  Even in the back seat of a late 70s Buick it's a damned nuisance, never mind attempting things in a Dodge Omni.

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This reminds me of the crash scene in Parenthood w/ Steve Martin.

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Reply #293 on: February 14, 2011, 11:04:43 AM

Quote from: Posted by: Abagadro
Don't be a jackass. I mean really. It frankly is not the height of puritanism to not want to see or have your kids see people fucking in a car on the goddammed highway. Try to have at least a modicum of class.

While I ABSOLUTELY do not think kids should be exposed to sexuality, I disagree with your approach to the issue. So, again, while I ABSOLUTELY do not think kids should be exposed to sexuality (better to say it twice), I think it should not be stretched too far. Sex happens, and when it's not that close to your children, so it's not threatening their safe space/environment in any way, but eventually in the distance, in a different place, in a blurry moving car, somewhere there behind the bushes, or something like that, and the kids are safe with you, the parents, who can answer to questions or give explanations, it should be acceptable. Or "tolerated" as they say, and as it is in many other countries, which are not necessarily depraved for that, and don't bring you to a trial cause you were posing naked in the woods. Again we are NOT talking about a couple having sex in the playground and playing dumb, we are talking about someone having sex in the back (not on the rooftop!) of their car without having to feel like they are being outlaws or that future generations are in danger of being traumatized. Let's not even get into the topic of your own house, curtains, and shit.

AVERT THINE EYES! That's how sex is still perceived in many places. We are not talking about porn, just plain old honest sex. Or even simple nudity. The problem with sex and sexuality is that too many cultures treat it as something dirty and bad (why? History lesson, that way). While I once again want to state that I am not saying kids should be, or it is ever ok for them to be exposed to sex, I think there's no need to pretend it doesn't exist or assume that accidentally witnessing anything sexual is always and undeniably going to traumatize children. Sex is only as traumatizing as our cultures made it to be. And here lies the hypocrisy of puritanism (mind, this is NOT about the US. Many countries are more forgiving, many countries are less. Despite my previous comment I am not bashing the US, they were the subject for contingent reasons, ie: I am going there, not political ones): blood, abuse, violence and kids exposure to that is generally more accepted than sex. Why exactly?

So, there goes the class I never claimed to have, cause it's a concept I don't necessarily believe into considering how it easily changes from culture to culture, and decade to decade.

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Reply #294 on: February 14, 2011, 11:20:59 AM

Again we are NOT talking about a couple having sex in the playground and playing dumb, we are talking about someone having sex in the back (not on the rooftop!) of their car without having to feel like they are being outlaws or that future generations are in danger of being traumatized.

Its your intent to be seen, whether you admit to it or not. Else why have sex in the back of a car while in motion?
Do it in the car while parked and enclosed in a garage.
Do it in the car while parked way back in the woods where you are unlikely to be caught.

The only point in having sex in a moving car in broad day light or on a heavily used road would be for the titillation of being seen/caught.

And Im not saying you shouldnt do it, hell Ive done it. I like nothing more than getting a BJ while on a long boring drive. But Im honest about why Im doing it and prepared to suffer the consequences of my actions. Are you?
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Reply #295 on: February 14, 2011, 11:25:40 AM

Thanks so much for the good advices. I'll try not to fuck it up this time. In the meantime, you all know this gem we have to sign before getting into USA, right?


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Have you been involved, in the past or now, in sabotaging or espionage, or terroristic activities? Or genocide? Or, between 1933 and 1945, have you been involved, in any way, in the persecutions carried out by nazist Germany or its allies?"

I have been as literal as I could, punctuation included.

Wow. Our version of that going back and forth asks questions about carrying more than $10,000, fresh fruit, or if you came in contact with cows I think.

I bet yours was never turned into a composition by Frank Zappa: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPPDrXHjJx8

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Reply #296 on: February 14, 2011, 11:30:59 AM

Well, Sand, no.

When sex is treated naturally, you don't always feel like enjoying only in a specific designated place. That actually takes lots of the spontaneity away. I know what you are talking about, and we both knows that such titillation exists for some people. But the whole point here is really not exhibitionism. It's about enjoying something natural without having to feel it's wrong, while at the same time trying to find the reasonable line that respects children and different sensitivities or sets of morals. I just don't think that saying "it always has to be inside four walls with perfectly shut windows otherwise it's a crime" is that reasonable respectful line. That is all.

The moving car is because I know it might happen when I will meet this person and I know we'll feel like doing it. Can I wait? Sure I can. And I will. But I can still voice my disapproval for common morals and laws (not just the US ones) when they are so restrictive towards something natural that mostly religions transformed into "ugly, dirty and devious".
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Reply #297 on: February 14, 2011, 11:36:29 AM

I am speechless at the USA.

So if I come to Italy I will find people fucking in cars as a common thing?  I don't think so.

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Reply #298 on: February 14, 2011, 11:42:16 AM

I suspect the "culture" to which he is comparing things exhibits a space comprised mostly of the area between his own ears.

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Reply #299 on: February 14, 2011, 11:43:15 AM

I suspect the "culture" to which he is comparing things exhibits a space comprised mostly of the area between his own ears.

Or whatever's growing on his nether regions.

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Reply #300 on: February 14, 2011, 11:47:05 AM

I am speechless at the USA.

So if I come to Italy I will find people fucking in cars as a common thing?  I don't think so.

I backed off from that in later posts. And I hate Italy and want to leave this shitland anyway. But no, I really don't think you are ever going to have a trial for having sex in the back of your car in Italy, unless you really are in a kids playground. That doesn't change Italy is a horrible place and should burn in flames.
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Reply #301 on: February 14, 2011, 11:53:26 AM

Just make sure neither of you are the driver, because that would definitely tack another charge onto it.

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Reply #302 on: February 14, 2011, 12:08:02 PM

So if I come to Italy I will find people fucking in cars as a common thing?  I don't think so.

Maybe. You might also get to see old guys touch themselves in broad daylight, in the open, in a park across from a school (ok it was a University campus).

Falc, do yourself and everyone else a favor and show a bit of restraint. Please.

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Reply #303 on: February 14, 2011, 01:37:23 PM

It's not Falc's antics I mind.  I've seen all kinds of things given my friends in high school and college.  I just want him to remember we're a sexually repressed, puritanical society and would rather not hear about him having another run in with our laws due to cultural differences.

A lot of people do stupid shit, but they both don't realize how much trouble they can get in until it happens, and aren't foreign at a time when The System hates foreigners.  Keep it private and you're good.

So philosophy discussions aside, stay safe, Falc.  Thank you.

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Reply #304 on: February 14, 2011, 02:34:37 PM

Thank you all about being informative. I can be a showoff at times, but I really care about the info. And I don't care about the personal/cultural attacks. So it's all good. I'll be safe this time. Last time I've been incredibly naive, but that has been thanks to 3 locals and their bogus suggestions, one of them being a 40 years old professional photographer. This time guys, I'll trust YOU!  why so serious?

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Reply #305 on: February 14, 2011, 03:06:13 PM

I'm feeling like I missed out with my weeks in Rome now...

I never once saw anyone having sex.

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Reply #306 on: February 14, 2011, 04:09:56 PM

You have to get away from touristy places, and not go drinking at Campo di Fiori. swamp poop

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Reply #307 on: February 14, 2011, 05:29:49 PM

I'm feeling like I missed out with my weeks in Rome now...

I never once saw anyone having sex.

Why would you spend weeks in Rome? Ugh.
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Reply #308 on: February 14, 2011, 06:31:25 PM

Roma  awesome, for real
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Reply #309 on: February 14, 2011, 06:56:01 PM

I'm feeling like I missed out with my weeks in Rome now...

I never once saw anyone having sex.

Why would you spend weeks in Rome? Ugh.

I was asking myself the same question.
After seeing what appeared to be asphalt poured on the Coliseum and that Marcus Aurelius' tomb was being used as a trash receptacle I couldnt flee fast enough.
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Reply #310 on: February 14, 2011, 07:02:04 PM

That's the base stone on the Coliseum, btw...the marble was stripped centuries ago.

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Reply #311 on: February 14, 2011, 07:32:20 PM

I used to travel extensively for work to exciting and fun places like Joplin Missouri, Compton California (I might have expensed meals at Disneyland), Surrey England, Ohio and Rome.

I like being a stay at home dad a lot more.

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Reply #312 on: February 14, 2011, 08:01:08 PM

That's the base stone on the Coliseum, btw...the marble was stripped centuries ago.

Look at this picture. What is that stuff which appears to be some sort of modern poured asphalt/concrete being used as a sort of repair?
Right in the center of the picture covering the slope.

Im no archaeologist so maybe Im wrong but it looked pretty modern to me.


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Reply #313 on: February 14, 2011, 08:02:57 PM

Not a great picture so I have no idea.

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Reply #314 on: February 15, 2011, 01:11:04 AM

Think of the US public sex laws as a test.  If you screwed surreptitiously enough to not get caught, you passed!  If you got caught, then you were too public, and probably oughtn't've been doing that there.

Homes aren't an inherent protection from public sex because if they were, you know some assholes would be doing a reverse cowgirl on the screen porch in plain view of the neighborhood and try to claim that it was in the privacy of their home.
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