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Reply #3850 on: March 06, 2020, 08:17:25 PM

the only reason I can think of not to interview is if doing so and then turning down an offer would burn bridges you want to keep open just in case

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Reply #3851 on: March 07, 2020, 10:27:50 AM

Someplace that decides you meet their hiring bar and then is going to get all bent out of shape and not consider you later because you hurt their fee-fees is not someplace you wanna work IMO.  Good people are hard to find and a smart company will be keeping track of you in hopes of luring you back at a later date, not putting you on an enemies list.

Just, you know, don't do the thing of accepting the offer and then just not showing up to work.  THAT will burn some bridges.   awesome, for real

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Reply #3852 on: March 09, 2020, 12:57:07 PM

the only reason I can think of not to interview is if doing so and then turning down an offer would burn bridges you want to keep open just in case


Well, I did end up canceling the interview. There was too much going on personally and professionally to adequately prepare for a coding interview. I am not in my day-to-day work someone that has to write code. This was a 50%+ coding/manual position for a SDET. I did not want to look like a goober and fuck up a ton. I dislike coding interviews in principle and this one likely had a higher level of competency expected. I just wouldn't have been in a state to do well on it. Plus, I wouldn't accept the position and the next step would be in person in an area of the country I don't want to travel to right now.  awesome, for real

On the other hand, I accepted the new position at work. I will basically have free reign to do whatever I want while getting to work with a lot of new tech I have not had any practical exposure to yet. Additionally, I can do some of what I would have been expected to do in that interview position. I'll likely be developing/adapting a brand new automation framework. So, this is as close to a win-win as I can get. Yeah, it's not a massive financial windfall, but I get to do what I want in a place where I want to live with exactly the same work/life balance I had before and in the process become vastly more marketable should I want/need to relocate.

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Reply #3853 on: March 10, 2020, 09:36:42 AM

I think a lot of people don't recognize work/life balance as something of value. I learned that lesson a few years ago.
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Reply #3854 on: March 10, 2020, 10:17:54 AM

I think a lot of people don't recognize work/life balance as something of value. I learned that lesson a few years ago.

I agree it has value and I look at job websites like Indeed and Glassdoor and see it as a marker for employers, but never see an agreed upon definition mainly because I think it means something different to everyone. Are we talking a strict 8 hour work day and that's it? Does responding to an email with a sentence or two reply count as work if it comes after 6pm? What about people without kids who might have more unhindered time after typical work hours? What about remote work and where is that delineation? I'm genuinely curious about this topic since I started looking for a job elsewhere and have seen this pop up more and more.

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Reply #3855 on: March 10, 2020, 12:05:51 PM

It's different for everyone, I agree. For example, ripping off an email after 6pm is gasp-worthy for some, but normal for a lot of people. Travelling overnight for 1 day is harsh for some, but run of the mill for others.


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Reply #3856 on: March 13, 2020, 12:50:32 PM

My work life balance is more about giving me something engaging to work on that I actually give a shit about and feel like it is making a difference.  That basically tics the "me time" box and then I only have to balance family and work.
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Reply #3857 on: April 22, 2020, 09:46:41 AM

Today I wrote job termination of everyone at my work place including my own. Fuck China.

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Reply #3858 on: April 22, 2020, 06:26:25 PM

Outsourced or Covid?  If Covid nature is more to blame, this curve ball was going to get thrown at us eventually wierd eating habits or not. Also, once the US is done with it's circus act no one will be criticizing China's response.
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Reply #3859 on: April 22, 2020, 11:09:49 PM

Outsourced or Covid?  If Covid nature is more to blame, this curve ball was going to get thrown at us eventually wierd eating habits or not. Also, once the US is done with it's circus act no one will be criticizing China's response.

99.99999% sure China is just letting people die now. Not that we'll find out for a year.
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Reply #3860 on: April 22, 2020, 11:20:34 PM

The CCP decided they can afford to lose a few million citizens but canít afford a 7% decline in their GDP.  Much like Republicans in that regard.
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Reply #3861 on: April 22, 2020, 11:37:24 PM

Outsourced or Covid?  If Covid nature is more to blame, this curve ball was going to get thrown at us eventually wierd eating habits or not. Also, once the US is done with it's circus act no one will be criticizing China's response.
The place was already in financial trouble going into this whole mess. Our main competitor folded a month ago, now owners hope for a reconstruction to get it up and running in autumn.

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Reply #3862 on: April 23, 2020, 01:04:33 AM

Outsourced or Covid?  If Covid nature is more to blame, this curve ball was going to get thrown at us eventually wierd eating habits or not. Also, once the US is done with it's circus act no one will be criticizing China's response.
The place was already in financial trouble going into this whole mess. Our main competitor folded a month ago, now owners hope for a reconstruction to get it up and running in autumn.

What kind of industry?  Normally a competitor folding would be a boon, so I assume you are into something pretty directly impacted.

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Reply #3863 on: April 23, 2020, 03:32:02 AM

Outsourced or Covid?  If Covid nature is more to blame, this curve ball was going to get thrown at us eventually wierd eating habits or not. Also, once the US is done with it's circus act no one will be criticizing China's response.
The place was already in financial trouble going into this whole mess. Our main competitor folded a month ago, now owners hope for a reconstruction to get it up and running in autumn.

What kind of industry?  Normally a competitor folding would be a boon, so I assume you are into something pretty directly impacted.
Sports restaurant with nightclub. We were pretty much done the moment they shut down all sports. Last weekend we had a total of 100 food guests in a restaurant with 300 seats. Would have been better for us if they had forced us to close because then insurance steps in.
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Reply #3864 on: April 28, 2020, 07:47:51 PM

People need to stop putting two shades of green next to each other on bar charts. This presentation I'm attending is a goddamn visual nightmare.

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Reply #3865 on: August 15, 2020, 07:17:12 AM

Well after just about a year from the start of the application process, I finally have accepted an offer. Was just before Thanksgiving last year that I applied and started talking with HR about all the materials they needed. Began talks with the hiring manager just before Christmas and ran the interview gauntlet in January and first week of February. Then the world fell apart and the company pulled all the job listings including mine. This was as the department I was interviewing with was in the process of crafting their initial offer. Luckily the company allowed sites to refile the essential positions as long as the site provided justification for it. This was started in May and just passed all those hurdles August 1st. After a little salary negotiating, I signed the offer and started the intake items.  What a series of events...

Now the wife and I are packing up our place and trying to find a nicer apartment in Denver, since I will be working from home until at least Spring. Interestingly, the wife's job (software product owner) has gone completely WFH. One of the side effects of the pandemic was basically a forced test of the team's ability to be productive in a WFH capacity... which they have shown an actual increase by almost 15%. So her company is closing down the lease on the office space to save that money and converting everyone's position in her dept to 100% WFH - which is great that she can continue her job while we move and while she finds something in the new area.

2020 was going to be the forgotten year... who knew

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Reply #3866 on: August 15, 2020, 08:21:00 AM

2020 was going to be the forgotten year... who knew

I think I figured that out about the first week of March, which was about 1 1/2 weeks before my office closed up and most of us went WFH with only limited trips into the office allowed. Of course, we're now almost fully back open (though on staggered schedules for my department and with masks mandatory) despite my state being a literal hot spot with almost 100% ICU utilization.

Congrats on the job!

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Reply #3867 on: September 16, 2020, 04:44:06 PM

So 8 months into working for a large corporation, I've been brought in for my first 'we are going to be making a redundancy round' session. Interestingly I thought they'd blame it in Covid but apparently it's a conscious strategy of downsizing the UK presence to force greater usage of offshore resources and they're not pretending otherwise. They've divided people into job pools roughly structured around role / seniority and picked X number of you are going to be made redundant (I am relatively lucky to be in a 2 of 12 group). On the one hand I'm pretty sure I'm better at the job and have a lot more potential than at least half the group I'm in. On the other they don't have to pay redundancy as I've been there less than two years.

They haven't said that factors into it but I'm currently updating my resume and starting to look through LinkedIn and will start hunting in earnest soon. We find out the end of the month, if the worst happens I'm pretty happy it's shown me I'm pretty capable of working in a larger organisation than I'm used to and it's branched me into IT/tech work (and I've gotten a few cloud certifications out of it).

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