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Reply #3570 on: March 03, 2019, 10:08:09 AM

This whole automated guided vehicle business is interesting. You can almost become an expert on the products (not the implementation) in a matter of weeks. The market is so brand new.
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Reply #3571 on: March 04, 2019, 09:25:20 AM

I think this is true of AI as well. Or maybe I think that the experts don't understand what they are actually creating or doing.

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Reply #3572 on: March 06, 2019, 07:20:54 AM


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Reply #3573 on: March 06, 2019, 10:20:38 AM

Changed jobs in Oct, not sure if I mentioned it here. Sorta why I've been MIA for the last 6 months working on getting up to speed.

Moved over to the private wealth industry from construction. To say it's more professional here is like saying that Activision is slightly corporate.

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Reply #3574 on: March 07, 2019, 08:15:12 PM

Sounds like a move upward, congrats.

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Reply #3575 on: March 08, 2019, 12:05:40 AM

Resigned from my job I've been at since 2008 -- the bullshit was getting a bit too thick (plus five people out of ten have left over the last 3 months). It wasn't an easy thing to do, and now I'm discovering how !fun! it is to document random python scripts you wrote 8 years ago to solve a particular edge case.

But more importantly, on the day of my resignation my linkedin lit up with an SAP recruiter hitting me with a job offer that's scarily close to what I've been doing so far, followed shortly by another similar request from LogMeIn (also scarily accurate) -- both of them had to pay cash monayz for it too since they're not on my contact list. This is on top of the standing job offer from a new startup launched by some ex-colleagues that was a factor in my resignation (and tbh I'll probably end up taking that in the end anyway).

Thing is, I have made zero changes to my super-minimalist linkedin profile in like 3 years, and all the options in the job seeking menu are still various flavors of "no", "nope", and "don't bug me". What's also spooky is that instead of the random recruiter spam I got before, the job offers are very specific to my field AND my specialization (application / product security and secure software development). Have the megacorps finally deployed some new evil predictive AI? I find it hard to believe that appsec / product security folks are SO rare that we (and our companies) are stalker-worthy...
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Reply #3576 on: March 08, 2019, 08:17:05 AM

I'm discovering how !fun! it is to document random python scripts you wrote 8 years ago to solve a particular edge case.

I'm fond of pointing out that the compiler can read it, so don't give up, meatbag.

Have the megacorps finally deployed some new evil predictive AI? I find it hard to believe that appsec / product security folks are SO rare that we (and our companies) are stalker-worthy...

Actually I think there has been quite a lot of maturity in the old data-mining stuff we used to hear a lot about. I'm not surprised nor upset that corps are able to better target me for anything, whether job offers or advertisements.

Also, yes, good employees are rare these days. It's an job-seeker's market now. I suppose it's fortunate that IBM and my Weather leaders are working so hard to keep me, but if they weren't then I'd easily have another job as soon as I wanted one and probably for more money.

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Reply #3577 on: March 08, 2019, 08:45:42 AM

Sounds like a move upward, congrats.

Thanks, it was a side move with a higher ceiling really. I'd reached the pinnacle of where the construction job would take me. This one I've got potential to be running a much more profitable company, or at the very least learn a bunch of skills that will carry over into anything I want to do later.

But the main reason I left the old job was the owner couldn't handle his personal finances and thought the company was the solution to that problem. I don't play that.

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Reply #3578 on: April 01, 2019, 10:20:13 PM

Always a weird sensation when there's a meeting with your name in the title (+ "discussion") and NO ONE has talked to you about it yet. My new second line really needs to work on his messaging. I'm less freaked due to there being a lot higher ups in the meeting (how bad can it be?), but my functional management in Houston is a little antsy.

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Reply #3579 on: April 02, 2019, 12:32:46 AM

Not an April Fool's joke in poor taste?

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Reply #3580 on: April 02, 2019, 07:35:16 AM

He works for IBM. Pretty sure even thinking about jokes is against company policy.  why so serious?

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Reply #3581 on: April 03, 2019, 11:55:58 AM

It was an award. They were fucking with me.  Ohhhhh, I see.

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Reply #3582 on: April 04, 2019, 01:42:59 PM

Teasing the guy with anxiety, nice.

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Reply #3583 on: April 09, 2019, 03:46:15 PM

Someone I know is looking for a DevOps Engineer and an Integration Architect in the ATL area. Everyone is, of course, but this guy works for a good company. Consultant work, large client.

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Reply #3584 on: April 09, 2019, 04:23:01 PM

So the wife and I are trying to get out of pittsburgh which means me having to update a 10 year old resume. Holy fuck do I hate this. I don't see any of the mundane clinical data management bullshit I do day to day as being marketable at all. I have no skills in marketing myself... crushing my soul. I made a task list of all the shit I do which is compounding the madness as I don't see anything useful on the list.

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Reply #3585 on: April 09, 2019, 04:39:40 PM

It's a lot easier when you aren't trying to summarize 10+ years of experience all at once.   awesome, for real

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Reply #3586 on: April 09, 2019, 04:42:08 PM

Forget about day-to-day; all you need is a handful of bullet points and it doesn't matter if half of them come from that one actually cool thing you worked on for three weeks in 2013.

Numbers can help. Processing reports is boring, but processing 15,000 reports is exciting, as is reducing report processing time by 38.2%.

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Just fill it with lies. If you can do the job you're applying for, then the lies don't matter.
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Reply #3587 on: April 09, 2019, 04:43:13 PM

It's a lot easier when you aren't trying to summarize 10+ years of experience all at once.   awesome, for real
Also the Millennial job-hoppers get a lot of experience with resume writing and interviewing cause they do it so frequently.
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Reply #3588 on: April 09, 2019, 04:49:25 PM

After going through the thing of having to write a one-page resume that covered 17 years of work, my theory is that you should update your resume every year even if you aren't looking, because it's just so much fucking easier.  Did it last year and it took only about a minute to add a couple of new bullet points and combine a couple of old ones.

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Reply #3589 on: April 10, 2019, 01:54:13 AM

And depending on your line of work, the specific details don't always matter.  Maybe you lead people.  Maybe you have collaborated on big projects.  Maybe you have budget responsibilities.  You have a mind for security and compliance.  You have a demonstrated aptitude for technology and learn new things quickly.  You are great at the details when required, but can grasp the bigger picture.  And so on.  Those kinds of things tend to be way more important to most employers, unless you are going for specific tech jobs the require specific experience.

Also, kids these days.....are great at writing CVs.  18 months ago I had to hire two students, and had to review more than 200 CVs from college students.  Most of them were really impressive, both in substance and look/feel.  Might be worth looking into, I know I would for my next CV.

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Reply #3590 on: April 11, 2019, 03:05:02 PM

After going through the thing of having to write a one-page resume that covered 17 years of work, my theory is that you should update your resume every year even if you aren't looking, because it's just so much fucking easier.  Did it last year and it took only about a minute to add a couple of new bullet points and combine a couple of old ones.

Yep I do it every year. Mostly because recruiters always want it and I never turn down a conversation. Most of them are ridiculous but you make contacts and one of the ones I made 3 years ago got me my current job.


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Reply #3591 on: April 12, 2019, 08:47:57 AM

I agree with the points on keeping your resume fresh, and ideally you'd go to an actual interview or two every year. At least do some phone screens. Ask for feedback. You'll not often get it, but it will be great when you do.

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Reply #3592 on: April 12, 2019, 09:53:17 AM

Yearly updates to the resume... got it.

Sadly that is not where I am at now though. That said, I'm making some progress... not much but some.

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Reply #3593 on: April 12, 2019, 10:24:57 AM

You basically have to do it iteratively.  Write out all the projects you were involved in; if there weren't discreet projects, figure out what you did that was worth money to the company and articulate that.  Write out a timeline of everything you've done.  Then take a break for a day.  Then come back to it and look at what you've written with the eyes of someone who has to read a resume, and just delete or condense everything that's least interesting.  Your goal is to get it down to a page.  If it makes it easier, do it in chunks (like each job title you had or each team you were on, whatever corresponds to a few years worth of work), refine each individually, and then combine them all and then edit THAT down.

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Reply #3594 on: April 12, 2019, 11:28:38 AM

The one page thing is also not the ideal if you're past 10 years in your career. I have two pages and nobody has every mentioned it. In fact, they typically remark on the earlier stuff as a conversation starter.

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Reply #3595 on: April 12, 2019, 11:37:02 AM

If it's two pages of great stuff, I don't feel like I've wasted my time reading it. Three pages is probably too much, but really it depends on your type of work. Meaning the particular position. An entry level resume over one page gets deleted right away. A position looking for 10-20 years of experience would probably generate 1.5 pages of highlights.

In any case, it's super hard to read a bunch of resumes without going to sleep. Try to keep it readable. Use numerals instead of words for numbers. Consider that the guys reading your words are overworked and sleepy.

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Reply #3596 on: April 12, 2019, 11:44:19 AM

In fact, they typically remark on the earlier stuff as a conversation starter.

My theory as someone who hurriedly skims over a lot of resumes: this is exactly why you can cut it down to a page.  Just include the bullet points that make good conversation starters (entry points into stories you can tell that demonstrate the attributes they're looking for) and the ones that'll get you past the recruiter's qualification screen.  Every other part of the hire comes down to the interview.

I mean, I have 20 years worth of stuff I've done that's interesting to ME, but I don't delude myself that anyone is going to want to hear my whole life's story in the context of an all-day interview process, never mind an initial resume review. 

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Reply #3597 on: April 12, 2019, 12:00:25 PM

Adding to that: I'm very interested in finding out if you can do the job I have. This, at earliest, is determined during conversation. The stuff on the paper is not how we determine if we like you, just if we want to talk to you.

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Reply #3598 on: April 13, 2019, 01:25:35 AM

FWIW in my current job search I made a one-page AND a two-page version of my CV, and both seemed to do fine -- though in the technical interview at the second place they remarked that the two-pager CV looked 'impressive', so that's a sample size of 1 for you. Now I have to decide between SAP (fake edit: nm they found someone internal a half day before the last interview round lol), LogMeIn, and Rainbow-Farting Unicorns Llc. (a startup by an ex-colleague, not the company's real name, obv). I'm inclined to go with the unicorns because making gobs of cash is nice and all, but I am still at the phase of my career where I want to make a difference, care about working with likeable people, and other idealistic bullshit like that. It also helps that the job market seems super hungry for product security folks right now.

BTW, the two-page version was done in LaTeX. I am not sure whether that's a good or bad thing.  awesome, for real
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Reply #3599 on: April 16, 2019, 02:02:22 AM

There is no One Best Way, tbh.  It depends on the reader.  It depends on writer.  It depends on the job.  Cover letters matter, too.

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Reply #3600 on: April 17, 2019, 01:19:41 PM

Been with my company for 7 months. I got a promotion, a good one. Now I just have to find out about the money.
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Reply #3601 on: May 02, 2019, 08:23:11 AM

Considering changing my voicemail to state a minimum salary and paid time off.

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Reply #3602 on: May 02, 2019, 08:48:27 AM

Step right up if you're interested in doing IT work in strange exotic locations abroad!  The IT department of the Foreign Service is critically low right now due to the ravages of Rex Tillerson (no hiring at all) on top of years of hiring under attrition because the government skimps money on the wrong things.  We literally have over a hundred positions around the globe vacant than we don't have physical Information Management Specialist to fill (the official name of the IT Dude in the foreign service).  The department is so desperate right now, they have just opened up a jobs announcement for an ENTIRE YEAR.  Normally they open up a vacancy announcement, take loads of applications for a month, then close it for the year.  Now they've just opened it up to a free for all for a year straight.

If you have any decent IT knowledge and don't outright insult the interviewers, you'll probably be hired.  Pay and benefits are great (ignore the stated starting salary range, that's just DC base level.  With benefits and being abroad, your real compensation will be at least double that), and the job can be as exciting or as boring as you want.  Though depending on where you get sent your first tour, maybe more exciting than you want.   why so serious?

Must be able to hold a Top Secret clearance as job entails guarding all of our nations diplomatic secrets, so pray you hid your time fighting for the revolution in Latin America well.  Also, willing to physically (if not mentally) support the foreign policy goals of the Trump administration currently.   Ohhhhh, I see.

But will hopefully change soon!

https://careers.state.gov/work/foreign-service/specialist/information-management-specialist-selection-process/

Anyways, really, if any of you (or anybody you know) is interested in this lifestyle, now is the time.  We are critically short staffed right now, and if we take a big glut of people within the next two years, it may be decades before it's this easy to get into the job.
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Reply #3603 on: May 06, 2019, 10:54:06 AM

Heh, I don't even want to travel to the Pearson Vue test center. The only tempting thing in there for me is the chance to get a clearance.

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Reply #3604 on: May 22, 2019, 01:41:56 PM

Welcome all to my Pity Party!

Just got laid off from my job for the last 17 years. Along with a dozen or so other folks in the office, including my Manager who has a nice 20 years of service statue now sitting on his former desk.

"Corporate Restructuring" I won't say anything more as I have many friends still there, and haven't got my severance in hand yet. At least 17 years builds up a pretty good severance package.

I have no fucking clue what comes next, this is all of I've been doing for 17 years. It's going to be interesting.

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