Super Newbie

[rk47]

In game Eve Mail I received today.

присоединяйся )
From: KeyTycoon
Sent: 2010.08.24 13:28
To: Alexei Farkov, 

Привет, пилот. Присоединяйся к нам! 000 Low Tax - это теплая дружелюбная компания русскоязычных игроков. Нас больше сотни и всегда есть с кем полетать и поболтать в чате. Подходим для игроков с любой таймзоной - постоянно кто-то в онлайне. И да, мы принимаем триал, мы помогаем с выдачей триалов на 21 день, мы помогаем перекинуть в случае необходимости шипы и накопленное оборудование на новый триал.

Приходя к нам можете быть уверены - никто не будет указывать вам как и где играть, с кем летать и что делать. Свобода действий и игра в своё удовольствие - это главное. Хантим все, что дропает профит и фан.

> Приглашаем игроков любой расы.
> Нет требований по минимальному уровню скилов.
> Нет требований и обязаловок по онлайну.
> Мизерный налог - пока 1%.
> Помощь новичкам.
> Russian speaking.

[ENG] Aren't you bored in NPS corporation? Join to 000 Low Tax - tax just 1%. We are friendly, insisting and communicable. We appologize if this letter has distracted you from other important matters. Good luck and have fun ;)

This game's amazing.

[Morfiend]

Morfiend Va
Currently working on a bunch of lower level skills and learning skills. I am debating if I want to just sit him for a while and bring his learnings up to 5/4 or leave them at 4/3. Going to take like 12 days or so to bring them up to 5/4 if I do it now, which newbie training time, and while I am still specced in to memory. I think I am probably going to do that, as it will be better in the long run.

Alex Vaunt
My original character, from before they changed the character creation. I think I am going to try and get him in a Cruiser asap and bring him out to 0.0 while Morfiend Va trains learning.

Any advice for me, anyone see anything im missing? Yeah, Alex's learnings are not to great. But he is specced in to high perception, so his learnings take forever to train.

[Slayerik]

Top guy, bug a vet to help you get +3's in ASAP.

Other advice, use my account. You will be awesomely self sufficient in Deklein in a Raven - and can fly any cheap ships you want (with actual great skills). Two accounts is the way of Eve.

[01101010]

So is the refer a friend 21-day thing still up and running? I will prolly end up subbing to the game next month and I recall whoever give out the 21 day thing gets something in return if the new guy ends up subbing. I'm all about spreading the love.

[Phildo]

I still have a few to hand out, but you'll have to start another character if you do that.  The trials only work on fresh accounts.

[01101010]

I still have a few to hand out, but you'll have to start another character if you do that.  The trials only work on fresh accounts.

That won't be a problem. I consider this 14day trial guy a test dummy anyway.

[Merusk]

The number of ships required to down something like that in high-sec before getting concorded would make you a pretty unlikely target. Barring doing something daft like wandering around with a cargo-hold full of plex's :)

There's a scary number of really pimped out mission ships in empire.

Like 5 or 6. Not sure what Hakim's is worth, but quite the gift! If you guys find the ships, we'll kill them and make millions BILLIONS!

See, I knew to watch out for guys like you! 

[rk47]

Just wanna say thanks to all the help. I'm starting to get into the game more. I'm still at work, but at least when I get home I'll be able to put on some basic afterburners and shield recharges for PVE thanks to training queue.

[Morfiend]

Just wanna say thanks to all the help. I'm starting to get into the game more. I'm still at work, but at least when I get home I'll be able to put on some basic afterburners and shield recharges for PVE thanks to training queue.

Is there something a duo could do in Minmatar newbie space? Both myself and rk47 are there currently. Anyone have any ideas, would be nice for us to group together and actually do something.

[Phred]

Just wanna say thanks to all the help. I'm starting to get into the game more. I'm still at work, but at least when I get home I'll be able to put on some basic afterburners and shield recharges for PVE thanks to training queue.

Is there something a duo could do in Minmatar newbie space? Both myself and rk47 are there currently. Anyone have any ideas, would be nice for us to group together and actually do something.

One thing that was popular with the goons for a while was join corporations that will take anyone then kill all your corpmates until you get booted. This can work well with 2 ppl and you can play it off as a newbie mistake quite a few times if you are clever. Otherwise, you can bore yourself to partial death (it's much more fun with a friend) on missions. Just pick someone with something ripe in their lp store to sell and medical facilities at one of their stations and hopefully a  research agent or two (someone who knows mini's cam recommend some npc corp to mission with.

[Nerf]

Jihading (joining a corp to kill its members with impunity) is even more fun if you can get someone who isn't in the corp to hang out in a logistics ship and repair (heal) you while you take on a dozen people with 500x the skillpoints of you.  The first time some idiot flying 200m worth of shit fires a volley into the repper and gets concorded is magical.

[rk47]

I seem to recall it's possible to stay subbed by paying with ISK.
Is this legalized or another form of in-game currency exchange?

[tgr]

You buy PLEXes for 300-350m, and you use them in exchange for 30 days of gametime.

[rk47]

OK just asking because I can't seem to have any fun blasting PVE stuff while waiting for skills to train. Then it hit me, maybe i shd set a financial goal with the seed money samson gave me. Buy low, sell high thingy seems so easy with the in-game market UI. I'm thinking maybe train up to pilot those huge industrial shits to haul cargo around with afterburners on while training skills should earn more credits than busting missions right?

[Morfiend]

I'm getting ready to head out to 0.0, with one of my characters. Can anyone tell me if there is anything I should do before I come? I should be able to fly a tackling frigate well for PVP, and also I could fly a salvaging destroyer to help make isk. I am going to start training up Amaar Cruiser today, so hopefully I can get in to a Harbinger for ratting soon.

[Slayerik]

I'm getting ready to head out to 0.0, with one of my characters. Can anyone tell me if there is anything I should do before I come? I should be able to fly a tackling frigate well for PVP, and also I could fly a salvaging destroyer to help make isk. I am going to start training up Amaar Cruiser today, so hopefully I can get in to a Harbinger for ratting soon.

You have Gurista rats where you are, a harbi is gonna suck. Sorry to be a downer.

[Kageru]

I believe it can rk47. I've seen a lot of people claim they make an awful lot of money taking advantage of local price differences or even manipulating the market. It might be more lucrative but less reliable than missions.

In my (noob) opinion there's lots of ways to make money in the game. Apart from PvP which is generally revenue negative. More important is to find gameplay you can get some enjoyment out of and see if that gives you some goals to work towards. For example hauling stuff could easily lead to larger, stealthier or more durable freighters. Playing the market can be a goal in itself, and the industrial system is pretty deep if the PvE isn't to your liking.

Otherwise you can let the skills train offline, do the minimum PvE to afford a ship you are willing to fly and lose and just look for fights :)

Morfiend, the only important thing to do in Empire is the tutorials and spending what money you have on stuffing skill books into your head. There's various ways to get yourself into a ship and flying a tackler is enough to get you into fleet PvP... though possibly for short but glorious durations :)

[koro]

Okay, since I pretty much have nothing but Iron Will 4 and the first three ranks of Focus to get, I'll be essentially done with the Learning skill set for the present.

Now, I need to figure out where next to go with my character, who's pretty much gonna stick with Minmatar ships, graduating to a Stabber next, followed by a Hurricane, and from then I can decide which longer-term paths I want to follow.

So here's my current skill setup (just pretend Iron Will 4 and Focus 3 are done:


One thing I do know is that I'll be working on getting Drones to 5 off and on while doing everything else.

[Sir T]

Electronics and engineering to 5. More cpu and power = more stuff on your ship.

Drones to 5, Heavy drones and drones support skills to 3. That will give you fast tough drones that are useful in all number of situations, not just PVE. You NEED drones 5.

Erratic maneuvers to 4, if you can spare the time 5. You may sneer at it but turning faster means you get into warp faster, or at least it used to. I regarded this as the best skill I ever trained up in my newb days

Weapon upgrades to 4. Gunnery support skills to 3 minimum.

Since you are going Minmatar its no harm to buff your missile skills up as well.

That should keep you going for a while.

[koro]

And when should I bump up Minmatar Frigate to 4 and get ready for Cruisers? When all those support skills are done?

[Segoris]

I could use some info as to what to work on or, possibly more importantly, what skills I should buy to add to my list and get to level 3 before working on level 4+. Currently, while I'm just working on getting things to 3, I have empathy, instant recall, iron will, spatial awareness, rockets, warp drive operation all going to 3 and Minmartar Frigate going to 4 just to make sure I have something training in case I can't login tomorrow. FWIW, the roles that look appealing to me are elec warfare/support or max gank
Current skill list:

[Sir T]

And when should I bump up Minmatar Frigate to 4 and get ready for Cruisers? When all those support skills are done?

What, you haven't already?

[Kageru]

Learning and advanced learning skills to 4 as soon as possible but learn some fun stuff along the way.

Skill towards cruiser or battlecruiser hull ASAP since ratting in the -BAT- cave in anything smaller isn't too productive. That gives you a starting isk stream to fund all the other stuff. Of course if you're going pure industrialist you might have different priorities but I've no idea what they are. There's advantages to working towards a drake because it's a strong PvE ship and appreciated in fleets atm. Being able to optimise drake skills and fit all the stuff for a "fleet" ship will keep you busy for quite a while (even just going to 4's). From there you can branch out as most of the specialist roles (logistics, ECM, intercept, cloak, PvP) are best done on a frigate or cruiser hull. For DPS / capital ships you can move up towards battleship / carrier. Of course by that time you'll have access to the wiki which is pretty impressive.

Don't learn rockets high... they're regarded as being broken due to the very poor numbers they have. And nothing other than frigates uses them anyway. Avoid getting 5's too early unless they're a pre-req.

My noobie view of things :)

[koro]

And when should I bump up Minmatar Frigate to 4 and get ready for Cruisers? When all those support skills are done?

What, you haven't already?

Well, no.

[Sir T]

Get cruiser 3 then BC 3. waiting around for them while youa re training the other stuff will bore you insane.

[koro]

I noticed.

[Wasted]

So here is my character, I know I'm probably all over the place so feel free to laugh.

http://www.eveonline.com/character/skilltree.asp?characterID=860772998

[Trigona]

Can't access that page Wasted.  Off the top of my head you should have your learning skills up to L4 as much as possible and then go to https://wiki.goonfleet.com/Main_Page and check out the public content.  The good thing about eve is that very few skills are a waste of time, so even if you're adopted a shotgun approach, it's easy to start to focus.  One character I set up for a friend was based on the ship he wanted to fly.  I looked up the skills needed for the various modules the ship used and set up a training path based on that one ship. 

For PvP a rifter is excellent, they are usually free for goonswarm and are effective and fun to fly.  Here is a useful guide http://www.rifterdrifter.com/rifter-pvp-guide/

[Wasted]

yeah i got all learning to level 5 and most advanced learning skills to level 4.  Its one thing I know I did right

[Trigona]

Wasted, there's a lot of people keen to see you join us in BAT, what are you waiting for?

[Morfiend]

So here is my character, I know I'm probably all over the place so feel free to laugh.

http://www.eveonline.com/character/skilltree.asp?characterID=860772998

You cant link to characters on that page. Use this site http://eveboard.com/

Wasted, once you are in game, at least join the f13 channel, so you can chat with people from here. In your chat window, click the little speech bubble icon on the top right, and then enter "f13". That will join you in chat with us.

[Lum]

My character, point and laugh!

http://eveboard.com/pilot/Cavort

[Slayerik]

Guys, hate to break it to ya but Wasted is an OBVIOUS 04 spy.

;)

[Sir T]

Hey come on. I was an obvious 05 spy. 

[Morfiend]

My character, point and laugh!

http://eveboard.com/pilot/Cavort

Your learning skills. 

You need to grab the t2 learning skills.