Torchlight II (not the MMO)

[Yegolev]

Just in case some of you is still undecided, you can now download the demo, either from Steam or the official  website.

I promised my wife I wouldn't buy any more games after GW2 and Borderlands 2, you bastard.

It's $20, cheapskate. :P

I mentioned that it was $20, and she wanted to know why if I was going to not buy a game, I'd not buy the $20 one.  I, of course, said that when I bought GW2 I wasn't not going to buy a game.  She only told me not to buy another game after she saw GW2 on the card, near to my PSN annual fee and the $90 oil change/air filter maintenance I did on my car.  Suddenly I looked like I was spending all of our cash, I suppose.

Really, though, I'm balls-deep in Borderlands 2.  I'll grab it on Steam soon enough, and if she complains I'll just give her cash on the spot.  Maybe I'll stick it in her mouth, I don't know.

Nah, that's not sanitary.

That screenshot of the loot filter, now THAT is how you raise the bar.  I was playing D3 and thinking maybe these assclowns didn't play Titan Quest and think "Hey, this loot filter is neat but I bet we, the Mighty BLIZZARD, can improve on such a simple idea! Mua-ha-ha!"  But no, it came down to Travis Baldree and the guys who invented Diablo.  Which I suppose isn't surprising.

[Xanthippe]

A couple of questions:  Can you un-socket gems?  Is there a giant map I'm missing?

Yes, you will unlock it at some level (10?) where you will have 2 guys, one who unsockets and destroys gem/keeps item and the other unsockets and destroys item/keeps gem.

They will appear in town.

[Reg]

They don't show up right away but there are a couple guys in town who unsocket ember (destroying the item) and destroy ember (unsocketing the item).

[Tannhauser]

Someone needs to make a mod to let me import the music and sound effects from D3 to Torchlight II. 

Yeah, the loot filter is pretty cool, but I loot everything.  A bent copper wedged in that dragon's ass?  MINE.

[Fabricated]

This is such a fun game. Also, gambling can give unique/set items and has done so for me with reasonable frequency.

[Merusk]

The 4 uniques alchemy gave me a hell of a unique set piece.  I'm collecting 4 more just to see if it always does it.

[Lakov_Sanite]

In act2 there's a Djinn dungeon you can repeat with a Chimera at the end that will always drop a legendary, lots of chests along the way too. I think I ran that place about a dozen times tonight, good stuff.

One of my legendaries is almost game breaking for me, which is awesome. it's a claw that gives a 45% execute chance, combined with my passive that increases my rage bar on execute I was in near constant berserker mode....



...and then a second one of those claws dropped 

[koro]

Been playing a while with an Embermage, going with Prismatic Bolt as my major attack, using Elemental Attunement to synergize with it. It's really fun and keeps my Charge bar filled around 40% of the time. All the extra added status effects also really wallop bosses, and I can't wait to get other stuff that meshes well with it, like Elemental Boon or Death's Bounty.

One thing I really like is that a lot of spells with fixed damage (as opposed to working off weapon DPS) scale up with your level and not more points invested, which I find neat and can lead to some interesting one-point wonders.

[Ironwood]

Drat and Blast.  Steam won't give me my activation key until I download the whole game again.

That's fucking lame.

[Reg]

Why do you need an activation key? Did you buy it somewhere other than Steam or something?

[Ironwood]

The Demo I downloaded was from the main T2 site.  It says 'hey, don't worry, just pop in a key and I'm good to go'.  So I bought the full thing on steam, thinking I could just use whatever key it would give me and register it on steam that way.

No Dice.

[Ironwood]

Ah.  There appears also to be a shared stash bug.  If I was you, I'd get your stuff out there right now.

Before you lose, for example, just off the top of my head, 4 uniques and a shitload of gems.

 

[koro]

What's the bug?

[Xanthippe]

In act2 there's a Djinn dungeon you can repeat with a Chimera at the end that will always drop a legendary, lots of chests along the way too. I think I ran that place about a dozen times tonight, good stuff.

One of my legendaries is almost game breaking for me, which is awesome. it's a claw that gives a 45% execute chance, combined with my passive that increases my rage bar on execute I was in near constant berserker mode....



...and then a second one of those claws dropped 

A legendary or a unique? (legendaries are red, uniques are orange).

I think that's the dungeon I just got an amazing unique staff from.

Torchlight II is everything D3 should have been. It's lootastic and that spells F-U-N.

[Xanthippe]

Ah.  There appears also to be a shared stash bug.  If I was you, I'd get your stuff out there right now.

Before you lose, for example, just off the top of my head, 4 uniques and a shitload of gems.

 

I wouldn't worry much about the gems. I have way more than I can use in Act 2 now - I'm going to have to sell them or something.

[Xanthippe]

Been playing a while with an Embermage, going with Prismatic Bolt as my major attack, using Elemental Attunement to synergize with it. It's really fun and keeps my Charge bar filled around 40% of the time. All the extra added status effects also really wallop bosses, and I can't wait to get other stuff that meshes well with it, like Elemental Boon or Death's Bounty.

One thing I really like is that a lot of spells with fixed damage (as opposed to working off weapon DPS) scale up with your level and not more points invested, which I find neat and can lead to some interesting one-point wonders.

My embermage is using Prismatic Bolt and that Blizzard thing, plus Elemental Boon and Elemental Attunement. So so so so so fun.

[Lakov_Sanite]

In act2 there's a Djinn dungeon you can repeat with a Chimera at the end that will always drop a legendary, lots of chests along the way too. I think I ran that place about a dozen times tonight, good stuff.

One of my legendaries is almost game breaking for me, which is awesome. it's a claw that gives a 45% execute chance, combined with my passive that increases my rage bar on execute I was in near constant berserker mode....



...and then a second one of those claws dropped 

A legendary or a unique? (legendaries are red, uniques are orange).

I think that's the dungeon I just got an amazing unique staff from.

Torchlight II is everything D3 should have been. It's lootastic and that spells F-U-N.

Uniques then(which is odd to have a pair of them) but yeah, they are all kinds of game changing. 

[Ironwood]

Ah.  There appears also to be a shared stash bug.  If I was you, I'd get your stuff out there right now.

Before you lose, for example, just off the top of my head, 4 uniques and a shitload of gems.

 

I wouldn't worry much about the gems. I have way more than I can use in Act 2 now - I'm going to have to sell them or something.

Yeah, I'm not that bothered, though I'm given to understand you can transmute later.  It's more the uniques that chaps my ass, especially the fucking awesome Hammer I was saving for my engineer later.

Annoying.

[eldaec]

If you;re getting too many gems, the transmuter does a deal where you hand in three gems for one better gem. I find most of my gems get processed that way because not enough stuff has sockets.

[Merusk]

If you;re getting too many gems, the transmuter does a deal where you hand in three gems for one better gem. I find most of my gems get processed that way because not enough stuff has sockets.

You can also add a socket to an item by combining an unsocketed item with 2 gems.


I pushed hard to get to that Djini dungeon only to have "just" uniques drop.  I was coming to see if I'd done something in error and see you all figured it's uniques not legendaries. Curses!

In other news, the "combine 4 uniques" does seem to give better quality uniques than you find otherwise.  Just got a killer staff I can't use for a few more levels.

[Fabricated]

The transmuter doesn't give better gems I think, I think you just get a gem of a different type than you put into it. Basically for getting rid of the piles of similar gems you need to hopefully get something with more USEFUL stats rather than higher ones.

[koro]

So I unlocked the gambler.

This is the very first thing I got from him:


Welp. 

[Ginaz]

Ah.  There appears also to be a shared stash bug.  If I was you, I'd get your stuff out there right now.

Before you lose, for example, just off the top of my head, 4 uniques and a shitload of gems.

 

Did you check both chests that contain your stash?  Each chest stores stuff separately.  I did that last night.  I rolled a new character and looked in one of my stash chests and found nothing.  Looked in the other and found it all.

[koro]

Also it sometimes (frequently) defaults to the Consumables tab of the shared stash and not the actual tab with gear in it.

[Megrim]

The transmuter doesn't give better gems I think, I think you just get a gem of a different type than you put into it. Basically for getting rid of the piles of similar gems you need to hopefully get something with more USEFUL stats rather than higher ones.

Three of the same type will give a different one. Four of the same type will give you back one of a higher quality.

Also, has anyone else found those "upgrade this weapon by getting kills with it" drops?

[koro]

I've found two so far: some claws I'm saving for a Berserker, and a unique bow that levels based off of champion kills.

[Tannhauser]

The transmuter doesn't give better gems I think, I think you just get a gem of a different type than you put into it. Basically for getting rid of the piles of similar gems you need to hopefully get something with more USEFUL stats rather than higher ones.

Three of the same type will give a different one. Four of the same type will give you back one of a higher quality.

Also, has anyone else found those "upgrade this weapon by getting kills with it" drops?

Yes, I found a 2h sword around level 15 that needed 20 kills.  When I did that it turned into a pretty unremarkable item.  Sold.

[Megrim]

Cool - I was wondering what the result would be (or if it was like TF2 where you just racked up kills on it to show off).

Btw, I think I was wrong about the gems. Three gets you a random one, four of the same type gets you a blue gem, iirc.

[Lakov_Sanite]

So a neat little cameo

[Lakov_Sanite]

For some reasons item names have toggled off and I cannot for the life of me toggle them on permanently again, any help?

[Soulflame]

Green mag glass (probably red now) at the bottom left.

[koro]

Yeah, I lost my floaty names somehow and had to toggle the magnifying glass a couple times to get them back.

[Lakov_Sanite]

holy shit....I just found notch's mine..



spoilered for awesomeness.

also found in it.

[Pennilenko]

holy shit....I just found notch's mine..



spoilered for awesomeness.

also found in it.

What, no screencaps?

[Ingmar]

Gave the demo about an hour. Doesn't look like a purchase to me, but I'll give it some more time to be sure.

Things I like better in T2:

- Loot is more interesting.
- Pet.

Things I like better in Diablo 3:

- Everything else.

Having to allocate stats on level up and having to tote identify scrolls around can both fuck right off. I'm also having a really hard time with the colors and distinguishing what is what at times. Game looks too garish for me I think.