Arche Age

[Flood]

Thanks Rend, I'll try and /whisper you, I'd be interested in joining up.

I'm liking the re-roll so far.  I'm not really into "furry" races generally but I like the whole Zen-Mongol-Nomad scenery well enough.  My Blighter is sniffing level 19 - been fun enough so far but at my level I can't really comment on the PvP viability yet (which I know will be a big issue at later levels).

I just bit the bullet and went Patron (hey I'll give it a month or two why not) and now I'm wondering what to do about housing.  I think I have enough Gilda, 30ish I think, but I hear it's hard to find an available plot.  Also I'm not sure if I should do the whole "plot with unbuilt house" thing or what.  Any input on first time housing?

 

[Rendakor]

Housing is less important than farming, at least early on, but either way you're going to want to get the plans for whatever you wanna build so that if you see a plot open you can claim it. As for finding plots, you can inspect existing buildings by getting close and pushing F; if they haven't paid their rent, it will tell you when the building is going to be demolished. Unfinished buildings are the most likely suspects, but farms that are empty or full of dying crops are also often about to be destroyed.

Edit: Flood, what's your character name? Mine is Aryx.

[WayAbvPar]

Ideally you will find someone swapping a prime spot and you can place your plot down right in front of them. An avalanche of increasingly rude crying tells are guaranteed 

[Flood]

Thanks for the info - I'll head to Mirage and at least get prepared with the plans.  I've been mainly focusing on levelling and, just recently, the associated crafted quest armors in the 18-20 range.

Rend: my IGN = Ixbalanque (I was trying to find something Mayan and...jaguar-ey). 

I looked for you a bit the other day in game but I think I missed ya.  It's /whisper <name> right?

 

[Rendakor]

/whisper and /tell both work.

[palmer_eldritch]

Thanks Rend, I'll try and /whisper you, I'd be interested in joining up.

I'm liking the re-roll so far.  I'm not really into "furry" races generally but I like the whole Zen-Mongol-Nomad scenery well enough.  My Blighter is sniffing level 19 - been fun enough so far but at my level I can't really comment on the PvP viability yet (which I know will be a big issue at later levels).

I just bit the bullet and went Patron (hey I'll give it a month or two why not) and now I'm wondering what to do about housing.  I think I have enough Gilda, 30ish I think, but I hear it's hard to find an available plot.  Also I'm not sure if I should do the whole "plot with unbuilt house" thing or what.  Any input on first time housing?

Get a small house plan with your Gilda and place it asap at a suitable farming spot. No need to actually build the house.

Then, once you have your large farm plans (which you get from doing the farming quests), you can pull up the house and place the farm.

To put it another way - land is limited so you want to be able to reserve a spot for yourself asap. and placing a house is probably the quickest way of doing that even though you want a farm in the long run.

[HaemishM]

So what is it about farming that is so necessary? Also, what kind of maintenance is required? Labor costs or gold or gilda?

[Rendakor]

A lot of the game is centered around crafting: crafting gear, vehicles, etc. To do high end crafting, you need items that only come from intercontinental trade runs. To do said trade runs, you need to make packs out of mats made by farming. You also need a lot of grown/harvested mats for your crafted gear, obviously.

Maintenance costs for owning land are paid in labor only (aside from the monthly sub).

[Falconeer]

What Rendakor said is correct. One more way you can put it is that this game doesn't really have as many "gathering nodes" as other games. This is by design, to stimulate farming, and because there are too many ingredients, so it would be HELL if people just had to roam around and look for the bushes or trees they need out of about a 100. So, with your own piece of land, you plant the seeds and trees you need, or raise the animals whose pelts or meat you need, and gather as soon as they are ready. And then you plant again. But since your needs change ovr time, you basically manage what nodes to spawn for you to "mine/gather/log". Or, of course, to make a profit by growing what is in high demand and selling it in the AH.

[Threash]

A lot of the game is centered around crafting: crafting gear, vehicles, etc. To do high end crafting, you need items that only come from intercontinental trade runs. To do said trade runs, you need to make packs out of mats made by farming. You also need a lot of grown/harvested mats for your crafted gear, obviously.

Maintenance costs for owning land are paid in labor only (aside from the monthly sub).

Can I play successfully without doing any of this? Because frankly it sounds horrible, I don't play games to be a peasant.  By successfully I mean I'm a min maxer and like to have the best stuff.

[Rendakor]

Not without spending real money and converting that to in-game gold. Crafted gear is EXPENSIVE, and you won't be able to generate a substantial income just by killing mobs. Getting someone to craft gear for you at high levels is a pain because it costs a fucking shitton of labor; moreso if you used quested gear to level then decided you want good crafted gear at 50. Honestly, if the crafting/farming/trading game doesn't appeal I'm not sure why you'd even bother playing AA.

[Threash]

What about pvp, can I kill the peasants and make decent money that way?

[Rendakor]

The way to make money through PVP is by stealing people's trade packs and turning them in yourself; aside from camping your faction's quest-turn-in-port that isn't viable solo because no one takes packs out of safe zones alone. If you had a guild of gankers (or pirates) then I guess you could do alright.

[palmer_eldritch]

If you have a guild which gets a galleon and a load of clippers together and goes out to sea robs traders, it's a lot of fun. You probably won't get rich doing it but it's a blast.

[Threash]

If you have a guild which gets a galleon and a load of clippers together and goes out to sea robs traders, it's a lot of fun. You probably won't get rich doing it but it's a blast.

This is why i am trying to get into this game, but life as a medieval serf is just not what i consider fun.

[Bzalthek]

Honestly, if you don't have a lot of people you can play with regularly, I don't feel you'll get much out of the game since a large portion of it completely disinterests you.  You can always join the zerg guilds, they recruit pretty heavily, but most of them aren't very organized and is often like herding cats getting anything (non zerg pvp) done.

[Rendakor]

What Bzalthek said. The solo quest grind is shitty; the fun of the game comes from the worldy aspects of group PVP, and crafting/farming/trading.

[Senses]

As stated a million times in this thread, if you want to have fun in this game you need to be social just long enough to get a guild that does what you want to do.  You can putz around all day solo in this game, but it only really shines in terms of entertainment when you are making someone else's life miserable with the rest of your buds.

[Rendakor]

Flood I've messaged you several times in game, no reply. Ixbalanque is you, right? I'm Aryx.

[Flood]

Flood I've messaged you several times in game, no reply. Ixbalanque is you, right? I'm Aryx.

Thank you, I think we're just missing each other.  Also last night I came home from work and started watching the Bronco's / 49'ers game and didn't log on until later in the evening.  I'm PST so I might be missing you due to that.  I'll be on tonight after 6pm PST.

[satael]

Reddit: How to profit in archeage, with minimum effort!

Archeage was fun for the month or so but it seems the game won't last much past the Auroria update due to Trion's inability to deal with all the problems related to hacking/botting. 

[Bzalthek]

I have to agree.  It doesn't help that there is minimal response from anyone with authorization to do so.

[Falconeer]

I am still having a blast. I own possibly one of the best housing spots in the whole game, and through diplomacy and cool interactions I expanded my farm to own all the surrounding gardens. I am 45k Leatherwork which means that I am now in RNG hell, but every time I craft a level 50 armor I feel the thrill of the possible jackpot and instant richness. Then, a friend of mine got obsessed with the galleon and is now working his ass off to get to 250 gilda stars, so we can start some serious naval operation. Auroria will bring even more PvP my way, and while we won't ever be able to participate in the sieges, the permanently-at-war new zones will make sure to give me and my small group of friends something to quarrel over.

In the last five years my average time in any MMO has been between 2 and 6 months. Anything that goes over the first month fulfilled its purpose to me, and so far this game is doing great and I wouldn't complain even if I quit tomorrow. The rumors about the hacks and cheats are beyond depressing. I can totally see myself quitting over the first couple of cheaters practicing their bullshit against me, that crap really takes the fun out of everything.

[Draegan]

I have the opposite experience. I hit level 50, figured out what I can do to have fun:

1) I needed to get a Hasla weapon to be able to be competitive/useful in PVP or PVE (GHA). However, I could never find a group as a healer, or the zone was owned by reds when I logged in.
2) I started late due to a new job and training. So I don't own any land. So most of the farming and tradepacks are not an option for me. Same thing with owning land for a house or whatever else.

So there really isn't anything for me to do. I don't enjoy running around for 20-30 mins looking for noobs to ambush. There are no clear character progression paths. I could join my guild fishing or whatever, but that seems really boring to me.

I just went back to playing LOL and doing the story line in SWTOR every few days.

[Rendakor]

The way to get land is just patiently scour whatever zone you'd like a house in. Inspect any farm that doesn't have crops, or any house that isn't finished. There are always a few expiring soon, and then it's just a matter of clicking faster than the other 3 guys trying for it.

The Hasla grind is shitty solo/PUG, but a lot of this game is about organized activity.

[Viin]

Check the lower level zones for room for a house/farm. I seem to run into a few spots here and there.

[Falconeer]

They banned a lot of players yesterday and today, so lot of land will open up very soon.

[WayAbvPar]

I finally got the 4th trade quest done today with the help of a couple of helpful guildies. I haven't been to sea since beta and I really enjoyed it. Going to have to save up some mats and gildas and get myself a cutter.

[HaemishM]

Is anyone experiencing some weird graphic glitches? It didn't happen last night but 2 nights ago I was getting huge tearing, as well as flashing on all bodies of water and even the skybox would sometimes double or triple superimpose itself on the screen. It was almost unplayable. I changed back to the DX11 version and updated my Nvidia drivers and the problem seemed to have gone away but wondering if anyone else had noticed issues. I have an Nvidia 460GTX.

As I was bitching in guild chat yesterday, that 4th trade quest REALLY needs to warn motherfuckers that 1) you have to sail across the ocean to complete it, 2) there ain't no NPC boats so you better find your own boat, 3) there's hostile NPC's in the water and 4) you might get ganked when you do it. The quest text warns of NONE of that. I'm lucky in that my guildies were willing to come ferry my level 27 ass over there but how are you supposed to be expected to do that in the teen levels?

[Rendakor]

I've had graphical problems when leaving the game on for a very long time (24h or more) but that's it.

[Falconeer]

but how are you supposed to be expected to do that in the teen levels?

You are not. This game doesn't do much hand holding, so you are expected to find out the hard way. I know you know this, and you probably think it's stupid. ArcheAge isn't exactly a hardcore game, but it deliberately chose to look in the past for some design decisions, and while that's what will not make it a huge success, it's what is gaining it a specific audience which is very happy with those unpopular decisions.

[HaemishM]

I don't even mind that you could get ganked or that you have to take a boat (either one you buy, craft or that someone else has). It's not the act that gets on my tits, it's not even bothering to warn the player this shit could happen. That's not handholding, that's just making sure you are aware and informed of the risks. I'm actually really digging the game (though the F2P restrictions are a bit chafing at times) but this is a sure way for the game to turn players who might otherwise enjoy the game right the fuck off.

[Rendakor]

At some point in a PVP game you're going to get thrown to the wolves. A big warning in the quest text would be nice, but who reads quest text beyond the short bit displayed in the tracker?

[WayAbvPar]

The quest text does explicitly state that it must be delivered to the other continent. They don't mention the dangers though 

[satael]

I find myself logging in only to harvest some stuff on my farm and spend the rest of the labor on mining as I wait for the Auroria update.
The sad thing is that today I logged in 3 times (a bit over 2 hours apart each to harvest some stuff) and saw the same 4 bots killing mobs in the same exact spot each time in YnY and judging by the timers on their suspected bot debuffs they'd already been at it for atleast 7 hours without any gms interfering.