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Riggswolfe
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on: July 19, 2010, 11:58:18 AM

First off, I only played Vanilla. I stopped well before TBC. I was on my 3rd Guild (I left one because of poor leadership, another fell apart, and then the 3rd one also fell apart.)

I was max level (for the time) Paladin in mostly Molten Core gear.

So, I missed out on Burning Crusade and Lich King. Is the game worth going back to? Especially if I've lost interest in raiding in general? And have no guild to go back to?

Edit: I was in Asa Tru on Icecrown, I left it because it was poorly run at the time though I am pleased to see that it still exists, while the 2 raiding guilds I went to self destructed.
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Reply #1 on: July 19, 2010, 12:02:00 PM

Sure. Between daily quests, flying mounts, dual spec, random dungeon finder, endless class revamps, blah blah and so forth, it's basically a whole new game compared to what you played. Go for it.

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Reply #2 on: July 19, 2010, 12:02:54 PM

If you're on the fence and not interested in raiding, I'd say wait until Cataclysm when they revamp the game from the ground up. You'll probably have a much better time then than now.

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Reply #3 on: July 19, 2010, 12:04:02 PM

Yeah, the main question is should you wait for Cataclysm to come out or not. It depends how much you think you'd hate going 1-60 in the content you already saw before, although it goes pretty fast now, and you can make 1-20 different at least by playing a draenei or blood elf.

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Reply #4 on: July 19, 2010, 12:04:41 PM

If you're on the fence and not interested in raiding, I'd say wait until Cataclysm when they revamp the game from the ground up. You'll probably have a much better time then than now.

It takes a long time to get to 85.  It might be worth starting a new toon and leveling it up to see what's changed.  By the time you're 80 Cataclysm will be out. 
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Reply #5 on: July 19, 2010, 12:06:54 PM

I might have to totally redo a character. I went to look at my account and it seems unaccessible unless I have a battlenet password but it says a battlenet account doesn't exist for my email address which is B.S. because I played geeze....months and months of Diablo 2 a few years ago and I had this same email account back then.

Part of why I was wondering is my wife was complaining the other night she never got to try WOW because by the time she met me I was done with it and she doesn't want to play alone.
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Reply #6 on: July 19, 2010, 12:10:02 PM

Diablo 2 B.net account != new WoW/SC2 B.net account, you've gotta make a new one.

That aside, if the two of you are going to play together I'd say go for it, and make sure to RAF. You'll get through the old content you've done already faster, and can get to the new shiny (BC and WotLK) faster.

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Reply #7 on: July 19, 2010, 12:21:24 PM

If you're starting from scratch I'd say wait for Cataclysm, because they are going to rehaul the entire levelling experience for you. Win-win.

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Reply #8 on: July 19, 2010, 12:22:42 PM

On the other hand, if you're introducing your wife to it as well, she might have somewhat more appreciation for Cataclysm when it hits for having seen what it was like before. Choices!

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Reply #9 on: July 19, 2010, 12:52:29 PM

If you're starting from scratch I'd say wait for Cataclysm, because they are going to rehaul the entire levelling experience for you. Win-win.

Yeah, I'd definitely wait for Cataclysm if you're starting fresh.  If you want to check out the new stuff though, your Paladin can jump right into Burning Crusade/Wrath of the Lich King stuff.

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Reply #10 on: July 19, 2010, 12:58:50 PM

If you're starting from scratch I'd say wait for Cataclysm, because they are going to rehaul the entire levelling experience for you. Win-win.

Yeah, I'd definitely wait for Cataclysm if you're starting fresh.  If you want to check out the new stuff though, your Paladin can jump right into Burning Crusade/Wrath of the Lich King stuff.

He's...hmmm..level 60 or 65. Whatever the max was back in the day. Of course, if I want to play with the wife playing a level 60ish character with her might not be a good idea anyway. :)

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Reply #11 on: July 19, 2010, 01:29:11 PM

If my wife was actually suggesting playing together, I'd jump in with both feet now!  YMMV

Even if you both get chars to 80 and have to still wait for Cata to come out, you can do it again with new races in a differrent class to get the new newbie experience.  Like said before, you can then compare the two experiences first hand.  The newbie differences in Cata will not be near as impactful to somebody starting completely new after it launches.

Even while waiting, there is plenty of opportunity to do instances together at anytime and quickly.  If you do raid, the systems are much easier now than vanilla.  Not sure if you like PvP, but that's very easy to jump in and out of anytime you feel like it too.

If you create a tank/healer combo of some kind, you'll have no issues at all.
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Reply #12 on: July 19, 2010, 02:01:35 PM

Tank/healer combo is hysterical.   All those kill 15 boars quests?  Two pulls.   The only real limiting factor is how dense the monsters are.   Tired of quests?  You can instant queue dungeons whenever you want and get plenty of training in dealing with moronic dps.   Feel like being saucy?  Kill Durn by yourselves at level 66, just because YOU CAN.
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Reply #13 on: July 19, 2010, 02:26:24 PM

The current game is vastly improved from what you did in Vanilla, but the Cata expansion will make the current game seem old and busted.


The only reason to level someone new up right now, would be a sight seeing tour before Cata blows it all up.





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Reply #14 on: July 19, 2010, 03:49:30 PM

Level, shmevel.  Create the new b.net account then merge it with your old wow account.. if it hasn't been hacked by now.

Then make a DK.  Choose which of you is the tank and which is the healer. Transfer the pally to the healer's new WoW account and go merrily along having skipped the whole vanilla thing with your Plate/Plate Tank/ Healer duo or Dual DPS badasses.    60-80 in BC and LK is all you really need to do to get a feel for the game and the experience is much better than the old vanilla zones with their useless quest rewards for classes that are 5 years out of date. (And weren't of much use when they WERE up-to-date.)

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Reply #15 on: July 19, 2010, 04:18:41 PM

Level, shmevel.  Create the new b.net account then merge it with your old wow account.. if it hasn't been hacked by now.

Then make a DK.  Choose which of you is the tank and which is the healer. Transfer the pally to the healer's new WoW account and go merrily along having skipped the whole vanilla thing with your Plate/Plate Tank/ Healer duo or Dual DPS badasses.    60-80 in BC and LK is all you really need to do to get a feel for the game and the experience is much better than the old vanilla zones with their useless quest rewards for classes that are 5 years out of date. (And weren't of much use when they WERE up-to-date.)

This idea is genius.
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Reply #16 on: July 19, 2010, 05:14:55 PM

Ask your wife if she will care about seeing the world pre-explosion or not. If she will, start now and start from scratch. I wouldn't even RAF unless you wanted the two seater rocket thing, if you don't want to raid there's no reason to sprint to level 80. There IS stuff to do for non-raiding 80's, but for someone BRAND NEW to the game like your wife, there is ALSO plenty to see/enjoy before then, so why rush?

Anyway, if she DOESN'T care, Merusk's idea is a pretty good one, or just wait for Cataclysm to come out. If you go the Merusk route, you might want your wife to be the DK, simply because it is designed to be jumped into at 55, your paladin isn't ... and your paladin might be a bit overwhelming for someone new to the game. :P

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Reply #17 on: July 20, 2010, 05:14:04 AM

Tank/healer combo is hysterical.   All those kill 15 boars quests?  Two pulls.   The only real limiting factor is how dense the monsters are.   Tired of quests?  You can instant queue dungeons whenever you want and get plenty of training in dealing with moronic dps.   Feel like being saucy?  Kill Durn by yourselves at level 66, just because YOU CAN.


Which one is Durn?

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Reply #18 on: July 20, 2010, 05:58:53 AM

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Reply #19 on: July 20, 2010, 07:24:13 AM

With the changes I would say cata release would be a great time to give it a try. They are revamping talents so playing a new character and leveling up in the revamped old world should be a lot more amusing. Also with every expansion there is pretty much a gear reset and you would see tons of brand new worgen/goblins out there so there will be lots of folks across level ranges to group with.

If you have the itch the new expansion would be a good time to jump back in.


Oh forgot to note one thing you won't need to buy cata for 90% of the new 1-60 stuff that is being updated to everybody so you can see a lot of the new stuff when that gets pumped out without having to pay anything extra for a new expansion.


First off, I only played Vanilla. I stopped well before TBC. I was on my 3rd Guild (I left one because of poor leadership, another fell apart, and then the 3rd one also fell apart.)

I was max level (for the time) Paladin in mostly Molten Core gear.

So, I missed out on Burning Crusade and Lich King. Is the game worth going back to? Especially if I've lost interest in raiding in general? And have no guild to go back to?

Edit: I was in Asa Tru on Icecrown, I left it because it was poorly run at the time though I am pleased to see that it still exists, while the 2 raiding guilds I went to self destructed.
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Reply #21 on: July 22, 2010, 02:02:03 PM

Ok. I sprung for the game for us. Gamestop had it on sale for $30 for the battlechest and $30 for Lichking which made it roughly the price of a console game. It'll probably take something like forever to get it installed. I'm on Icecrown and apparently my old account is still there. I figure I may just use my level 60 Pally and group with my wife and keep her buffed and stuff assuming I won't screw up her XPs by doing that.

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Reply #22 on: July 22, 2010, 02:05:29 PM

Ok. I sprung for the game for us. Gamestop had it on sale for $30 for the battlechest and $30 for Lichking which made it roughly the price of a console game. It'll probably take something like forever to get it installed. I'm on Icecrown and apparently my old account is still there. I figure I may just use my level 60 Pally and group with my wife and keep her buffed and stuff assuming I won't screw up her XPs by doing that.

If you havent opened her box yet, you should consider doing the refer a friend thing for your wife. It comes with a bunch of bonuses and benefits for both of you.

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Reply #23 on: July 22, 2010, 02:10:59 PM

If you're going that route, you might as well RAF her and level up a new guy while you're at it.  Your pally won't be able to help much.  You could park him in town or something and buff, but pally buffs of that level are short, so it's probably more trouble than it's worth.  And you will royally fuck up her XP in or out of her group if you help at all.

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Reply #24 on: July 22, 2010, 02:12:04 PM

If you havent opened her box yet, you should consider ...

Must not go there, must not go there!!!

I'm WEAK! 

If he hasn't opened her box yet, the "refer a friend" deal is the least of his worries.

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Reply #25 on: July 22, 2010, 02:17:22 PM

If you havent opened her box yet, you should consider ...

Must not go there, must not go there!!!

I'm WEAK! 

If he hasn't opened her box yet, the "refer a friend" deal is the least of his worries.

whew! I feel so much better!

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Reply #26 on: July 22, 2010, 02:44:59 PM

You asked the addicts in the WoW forum, who play WoW all the time, whether you should play WoW.

They were always going to say yes. Did you really want an answer?

NO, it's not worth going back to. It's six years old and it's the same old shit. Mess with PS3 games or something, until an exciting MMO appears.
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Reply #27 on: July 22, 2010, 03:01:19 PM

It's too late, we've already lured him back into the fold. He's even brought fresh meat with him. The masters will be pleased.

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Reply #28 on: July 22, 2010, 03:27:34 PM



If you havent opened her box yet, you should consider doing the refer a friend thing for your wife. It comes with a bunch of bonuses and benefits for both of you.



I did. Lol. I had today off so I sent her a RAF and will tell her she HAS to click on it before opening her box.

I logged on and realized I might as well start over. My Pally is in good shape but it has been Soooo long since I played the game I couldn't remember...well....anything. I felt like a total noob again.

If I know her, and I do, she'll make a night elf hunter. I just need to figure out what I am going to make.

Edit: And I'm sooo going to make a Death Knight just because. I'm disappointed to learn that you don't make your old char into a DK and have to make a new one from scratch. That kind of sucks.

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Reply #29 on: July 22, 2010, 03:31:37 PM

It's not so much that the game has changed that's confusing you as the Pally class has had, um.. 4 different revamps since you last played.   Yeah, they've made some changes to play and interface, etc over the years but nothing you couldn't get a handle on quickly.   The only class that's changed as much as the Pally (other than quality of life changes) is probably the Druid.   They're actually enjoyable to play while leveling up now I hear.

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Reply #30 on: July 22, 2010, 03:42:09 PM

If my wife makes a night elf hunter what would be a good class to go along with her? I'm thinking of just making a 2nd Pally since I have armor and healing and blessings to keep her alive.

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Reply #31 on: July 22, 2010, 03:44:30 PM

Honestly I'd say another ranged dps or maybe a healer; if you played the pally as Holy that would work okay. Prot would probably work too, as you could gather tons of mobs for her to AoE down. The only thing hunters don't play well with is melee dps: by the time you get to the mob, she'll have killed it.

Bonus points if you go tank or heals: faster /lfd queues.

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Reply #32 on: July 22, 2010, 03:52:03 PM

Druid.  You'll have versatility out the yin-yang (Ranged DPS, Tank/ Melee DPS or heals.. what's your taste today?) and can start in the same area without running around for an hour and a half.   Just play as a female since the male NEs look almost as bad as male BEs.

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Reply #33 on: July 22, 2010, 03:54:35 PM

I second the druid thing. Don't listen to Merusk about having to play a girl NE, though. Unless you're into being a mangina, of course. Even if you don't like the way the boy NEs look, you are hardly ever looking at them as a druid.

Also the boy blood elves are  Heart so he has no taste anyway.

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Reply #34 on: July 22, 2010, 04:03:03 PM

Druid.  You'll have versatility out the yin-yang (Ranged DPS, Tank/ Melee DPS or heals.. what's your taste today?) and can start in the same area without running around for an hour and a half.   Just play as a female since the male NEs look almost as bad as male BEs.

Well, with the RAF we can summon each other apparently.

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