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Reply #1785 on: March 05, 2015, 09:36:42 AM

It really doesn't.

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Reply #1786 on: March 05, 2015, 09:50:38 AM

I think he was quite clearly saying 'This is a good place to defend and start again.  And, if we see any previous fucking stupid behaviour, like someone gouges out an eye, hugs a dead undead loved one, or, you know, starts fucking eating other people, we'll just put a stop to that and take over'.

It seemed quite clear to me.  This is a group that can't be fucked with stupidity anymore.  In any form.


I'd like to think that you're right. The problem I have is IIRC right before that they replayed a clip of Rick's interview where he says something like "people measure you by what they can take from you."  I suppose one could interpret that as Rick wanting to toughen up the locals.
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Reply #1787 on: March 06, 2015, 05:40:30 AM

To me there is no doubt that what he was doing. He basically screamed at her that they were lucky that his group are basically Hippies by the standards out there and that they really should stop being stupid and opening their doors for random strangers. Given that is the story how Terminus ended up becoming Terminus he is not wrong. And given how he sees his own group and what he knows about the compromises they had to make he can't have that much faith in the Senators ability to judge people.

Basically, if there isn't an external factor that welds together the two groups by force like one of those exiles returning for vengeance, Aiden might get his group killed for the risk he presents to Judith by being a total moron in a position of authority.

Because one thing got clear this episode. Rick is definitely done showing leniency for stupidity that endangers his group.
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Reply #1788 on: March 06, 2015, 01:03:06 PM

And yet he seems to have no trouble taking any idiot he finds into his group.  Half of those hippies would be more useful to have around than the idiot priest that they basically let tag along for no reason at all, at least mullet guy is half way smart.

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Reply #1789 on: March 06, 2015, 01:32:56 PM

How many people has Rick taken in since Terminus?

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Reply #1790 on: March 06, 2015, 02:02:07 PM

Idiot priest. And I still haven't figured out why.

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Reply #1791 on: March 06, 2015, 02:06:43 PM

Two actually.  Priest and Beth's friend.

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Reply #1792 on: March 06, 2015, 02:26:32 PM

At least Noah had shown some ability to survive in difficult situations. Idiot priest should be dead seventeen times over.

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Reply #1793 on: March 06, 2015, 02:28:40 PM

Yeah, but then I presume Rick is religious. Religious people tend to value a Priests life quite high, I don't think they can just leave them to die if they can help it. That might count as a deadly sin or something.
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Reply #1794 on: March 06, 2015, 03:04:26 PM

Rick is not religious. At best, he's agnostic. They've given several clues to this throughout the series.

Also, Rick offered to take on anyone that wanted to come from the hospital. So, he's not closed to the idea of newcomers. Hospital was a closed population though, so that was probably a calculated offer.

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Reply #1795 on: March 06, 2015, 03:12:25 PM

Oh, I thought I saw a scene where he prayed in one recent episode, but maybe I misremembered. No matter then.
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Reply #1796 on: March 07, 2015, 01:30:46 PM

Two actually.  Priest and Beth's friend.

I'd say more, since he just met the three in Abraham's crew and Tara while at Terminus. He took them in even though it was other members of Rick's crew that met them first (similar to Noah in that way).

So out of the five people he's taken in since Terminus, only the Priest is awful and should be left imo. Eugene started as a lying useless piece of crap but now seems to at least be contributing, while Abe, Tara, and Rosita all seem to be really solid people to take in and good choices


As for if Rick is religious or not, I think that was the whole story with him and Herschel where Rick was not religious but Herschel was. As for why he took the priest in, I kind of think he figured the Priest is a piece of crap but he isn't a killer and doesn't seem to be a betraying type and isn't an evil person. By the time Rick's crew was in the starving state they were in recently they probably just accepted him as one of their own to enough of a point to not boot him out.
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Reply #1797 on: March 09, 2015, 04:13:51 PM

That episode took a long time to go nowhere.

Also, zombie horse ?  What ?


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Reply #1798 on: March 09, 2015, 04:43:10 PM

That episode took a long time to go nowhere.

Also, zombie horse ?  What ?



It wasn't a zombie horse.. it was a horse that had managed to survive.. well til they chased it off into some walkers.  If you mean why did they shoot it?  To put it out of it's misery.  It's wierd that people get taken out left and right and i felt more sorry for the horse than any of the humans.  lol
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Reply #1799 on: March 09, 2015, 06:37:41 PM

I know how you feel, Evildriver.  If I had to choose between an A-Mish man and a Madame Berthe's Mouse Lemur, I'd push the teeny furry critter out of the path of the steam roller.

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Reply #1800 on: March 10, 2015, 12:15:58 AM

Should be fun to see how much Rick's judgement gets clouded because of hot blonde MILF lady.  And speaking of romance, am I the only one not surprised to see Daryl getting sorta cozy with the male couple?  I have always thought he might be batting from the other side of the plate, but maybe we are just being trolled by the writers. 

Also, nice to see Carol return to form a bit.

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Reply #1801 on: March 10, 2015, 02:54:53 AM

That episode took a long time to go nowhere.

Also, zombie horse ?  What ?



It wasn't a zombie horse.. it was a horse that had managed to survive.. well til they chased it off into some walkers.  If you mean why did they shoot it?  To put it out of it's misery.  It's wierd that people get taken out left and right and i felt more sorry for the horse than any of the humans.  lol

Horse was eaten.   I mean, fucking EATEN.  Insides had been ripped out and eaten, it had been pulled apart, it was quite a visceral scene.  And then they have to shoot the motherfucker in the head to put it out of its misery, despite the fact IRL it would have already been really, really dead.

Hence, Zombie Horse.  Buttons, the Zombie Horse.

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Reply #1802 on: March 10, 2015, 03:00:32 AM

That scene was shot really well, by the way.  Not sure how they did that without needlessly stressing an actual live horse, but when they were pawing at it and pulling it to the ground....fuck. 

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Reply #1803 on: March 10, 2015, 03:02:09 AM

Actually, yes, I was wondering that myself.  I was trying to look and see if it was CGI or what, but if not, the chaps dressed as zombies must have been really good horse handlers, or the horse itself was a professional playful wee bugger.

Maybe CGI is just better these days ?

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Reply #1804 on: March 10, 2015, 03:50:08 AM

If it'd been a zombie horse then surely we'd have seen other zombie wildlife by now? Whereas they've actually intimated that there's not much wildlife left around now, presumably having all been nommed by the shamblers.

I think it was just taking a long time to die.

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Reply #1805 on: March 10, 2015, 03:59:49 AM

IIRC, back at the CDC, the scientist said that only humans carried the zombie virus.  That explains all the rabbits and whatnot milling about.
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Reply #1806 on: March 10, 2015, 04:02:47 AM

CHAPS, I'M NOT SUGGESTING IT WAS AN ACTUAL ZOMBIE HORSE, MERELY THE SEQUENCE OF EVENTS MADE ME LOL 'ZOMBIE HORSE'.

 Oh ho ho ho. Reallllly?

We can stop the zombie horse speculation if you like.  It's been loooooong established by Kirkman that this is a human only thing.

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Reply #1807 on: March 10, 2015, 05:24:05 AM

I do have a serious question, however :

Where ARE the group right now ?  I'm looking at a map of the US and trying to figure out where they've gone and been and all that jazz and as far as I can tell, despite the Washington trip being mega important, they've been going round in circles.  

Help ?


There's a real Alexandria in Washington.  But wasn't the hospital in Atlanta ?  Wtf. I'm more confused now.  Annnnnd, Noah's home was in Richmond, so ok, they've wandered that far up.   But what the fuck with the massive detour back down.  Arg.  I hate geography.

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Reply #1808 on: March 10, 2015, 07:39:22 AM

What is Rick up to with Jessie then? Was that some weird part of a test of the community and the people in it, or did he just think it would be cool to try it on with a woman whose husband was on the other side of the room? I can't believe it was simply a moment of poor judgement, he has more self-control than that.
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Reply #1809 on: March 10, 2015, 08:20:37 AM

Oh Come On.  Blokes been wandering around for ages with no-one but Carl and the NutSquad for company.

Also, she's really, really hot.  Also, she probably smells great.  Also, she cut his hair.  Also, she's clearly into him.

I'm fine with it, even though it's possible echoes of 'Bad Rick' to come.  Not sure I'm particularly interested in 'Bad Rick' because we had him and he was called Shane.


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Reply #1810 on: March 10, 2015, 09:15:47 AM

They're up near Washington, they've mentioned the long travel a few times. "only 70 more miles" etc. It's filmed in Georgia for the tax breaks/free money, so it's going to look the same as ever.
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Reply #1811 on: March 10, 2015, 09:34:33 AM

They are currently in Virginia, as far as I can tell.

Yes, the writers are clearly trolling the gay-haters on the Internet about Darryl, though if he did turn out to be gay, it wouldn't be that far-fetched.

I'm not sure about Rick getting kissy-face with the blonde MILF. There is clearly something not fucking right going on between that couple though why Rick wants to stick his dick in the middle of it, I don't know.

Also, something is most definitely going on with the "A" stamp on the hand, as well as the W cut into the zombie's head. Are there multiple competing communities around that brand their people so that they know who is who?

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Reply #1812 on: March 10, 2015, 09:38:32 AM

For reference, I have not been wandering around the zombie apocalypse with the Brute Squad for several years like he has, and I totally wanted to bang hot MILF lady.  Because hot.  He 100% wants her, and she's game.  Yum.

And the horse scene was not CGI, no way.  The part where they shot it was obviously some big muppet, but that was a totally real horse they were pulling down.  Unless we have crossed so far over uncanny horse valley that I am just talking out my ass.

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Reply #1813 on: March 10, 2015, 10:30:17 AM

Rick messing with the married girl is just another step towards turning into Shane. Also, yeah not CGI, if you look closely you can actually see one of the zombies gently lowering the horse's head to the ground as they swarm him.

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Reply #1814 on: March 10, 2015, 10:47:46 AM

One of the zeke extras was a horse trainer, he was the one that got it to lay down. As for the Ws,


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Reply #1815 on: March 10, 2015, 11:18:17 AM

Interesting.  Good catch.


Although it's a little on the nose.

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Reply #1816 on: March 10, 2015, 12:20:51 PM

Interesting.  Wonder if there is an "A" egg in there somewhere to find.

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Reply #1817 on: March 10, 2015, 01:08:39 PM

Surely, that'll just be boring old 'Alexandria'.

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Reply #1818 on: March 10, 2015, 06:31:27 PM

Surely, that'll just be boring old 'Alexandria'.


Pretty sure it's supposed to mean Alexandria.  Cuz the kid stamps Rick and Jessie tells him he's "one of us" now.  It's also a Scarlet Letter type thing as well.
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Reply #1819 on: March 11, 2015, 08:05:29 AM

When I was watching the horse go down, it looked like cgi zombies were around it. My best guess now is 1 zombie was really there... the trainer... and the rest in that moment were cgi.

As for Jessie... Breckinridge was on talking dead and said a lot. She painted a pretty clear picture of what is going on...

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