Nevermore
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If they do another Walking Dead show, I hope it starts on the same outbreak but on the east coast or another country.
Uh, Georgia is on the east coast.
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tazelbain
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I meant the other east coast. The one that liberals control.
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Hawkbit
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Like a Klansman in the ghetto.
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Bunk
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Great episode for a character development one, though I found it painful to watch:
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Raguel
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I meant the other east coast. The one that liberals control.
hah no zombie outbreak here cuz we have health care 
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Threash
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Great episode for a character development one, though I found it painful to watch:
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OF ALL THE RICK GRIMES IN THE WORLD, YOU'RE THE RICK GRIMEIEST!
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Why am I homeless? Why do all you motherfuckers need homes is the real question. They called it The Prayer, its answer was law Mommy come back 'cause the water's all gone
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Yegolev
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Also:
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« Last Edit: November 08, 2013, 06:30:45 AM by Yegolev »
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Why am I homeless? Why do all you motherfuckers need homes is the real question. They called it The Prayer, its answer was law Mommy come back 'cause the water's all gone
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2020 will be the year I gave up all hope.
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Planes? Shit, I'm terrified to get in my car now!
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Nevermore
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Over and out.
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I see a lot of authoritative opinions about how a hypothetical and unusually fast spreading deadly disease would operate. How many of you have ever encountered a flu that kills in hours without medication? If you did encounter it while out on vacation away from modern medicine, with your friends and family with you, how would you react? If you have an answer to that question, you're kidding yourself.
And for those that are bringing up Daryl - has he shown symptoms yet? I didn't notice any. I'm not sure why people are bringing him up in their discussion of the disease as anything other than proof that the disease doesn't spread to everyone easily and fast.
When Carol acted, there was incomplete information. She knew, "These people are going to die, and until they do they could infect more people - and if they die when nobody is near them, they could pose other dangers." She acted out of a sense that something hard had to be done and if she didn't do it, it wouldn't get done. They didn't know how many others might be infected - and it isn't clear that if one one or two more had come down sick, whether Carol might have snuffed them too and saved everyone.
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The problem with Carol actions, beyond the "hardness" of it was the unnecessary nature of it.
1. You don't know how the flu is communicated 2. You've already have them isolated 3. The risk of getting caught is ridiculously high compared to the reward. If Tyrese (or anybody) showed up 10 minutes sooner he would have caught you in the act. 4. Assuming that you DO get away with it. And that YOUR actions prevent the spread of further disease, what is your plan for the full on investigation that will tear your community apart. You just single handily invented a witch hunt.
The problem with Carol actions is that its dark and gritty for no reason. Kinda like Shane shooting that fat guy in the leg....or any of Shanes actions in season 2. I mean come on writers if you want to write people making immoral but right decisions at LEAST pretend their necessary.
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Tannhauser
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You see, you're thinking about it logically. She wasn't. That's why Rick did what he did. He didn't want her to set Carl on fire for a spider bite.
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Actually the story is asking us to think she is thinking logically. She made a hard and fast decision and LOOK Rick can't go there, LOOK now she can't be trusted. When in fact she made a kinda out of character decision that was thought out poorly and the only thing handled remotely well about it was Rick's reaction to it.
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Hayduke
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Even with the most convoluted fuckheaded rationale that in some way would vindicate Carol's actions, I think pragmatically the group is better off with Tyreese and Sasha (if she lives) than Carol.
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schpain
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that's a pretty cold way to look at it, hayduke.
carol's been there from the start, she's not flashy but she's a good shot and will get the hard stuff done (remember practicing to remove the baby when they weren't sure Hershel was gonna make it?); and tyrese isn't exactly mr mentalhealth right now...
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Nevermore
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And why isn't he Mr. Mentalhealth right now? Who's fault is that again?
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Tyrese always sucked 10 char.
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Hayduke
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Iif you're judging characters by where they hit bottom plenty of other characters are way worse than Tyreese. Rick and Carol have both been way worse on that front.
Also Tyreese and Sasha have survived just as long as everyone else.
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« Last Edit: November 10, 2013, 07:17:47 PM by Surlyboi »
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Tuned in, immediately get to watch cringey Ubisoft talking head offering her deepest sympathies to the families impacted by the Orlando shooting while flanked by a man in a giraffe suit and some sort of "horrifically garish neon costumes through the ages" exhibit or something. We need to stop this fucking planet right now and sort some shit out. -Kail
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Tannhauser
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The Long Dark Night at the Prison. Herschel was very brave and noble. Awesome episode for that character. Rick and Carl bond in another heroic scene. I also liked the quieter moments; love that the director lets a scene breathe. Might be the best episode of this new season. Shit certainly goes downhill fast in that world.
Really good to see the show still has high quality in its fourth season. I do wonder if there's an endgame to this story. But as long as it stays good I suppose.
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All I can say about Carol - If you can't understand (I'm not saying agree with - I'm saying understand) why Carol thought she was in the right, you're going to die when the zombie apocalypse hits in 1 year, 7 months, 4 days, 6 hours and 18 minutes.
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All I can say about Carol - If you can't understand (I'm not saying agree with - I'm saying understand) why Carol thought she was in the right, you're going to die when the zombie apocalypse hits in 1 year, 7 months, 4 days, 6 hours and 18 minutes.
For a second I thought you were Nebu and was very very afraid. 
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HaemishM
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Five episodes into the season and the quality has gotten better with each one. THIS is what good writing is like. Hands down one of the best episodes of any season.
But...
Fuck me.
That will be the real test of these writers. Can they make this shit character worth watching?
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Threash
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I love how they keep a bucket of assault rifles outdoors.
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Raguel
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I love how they keep a bucket of assault rifles outdoors.
yeah a definite "lolwut" moment in an otherwise good episode. That will be the real test of these writers. Can they make this shit character worth watching?
I'm betting against it. it's a shame though, I've like this season much more than season 3.
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That will be the real test of these writers. Can they make this shit character worth watching?
I was ready to rave about the episode - then they do that shit right at the end.  What's next? Zombie Andrea and Zombie Lori to round out a trinity of waste of space characters?
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HaemishM
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That episode was for me the best episode of the series, HANDS DOWN.
Right up until the last second reveal.
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Nevermore
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I can't imagine anyone is actually surprised by the reveal at the end?
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Threash
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I can't imagine anyone is actually surprised by the reveal at the end?
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