NFL 2010

[Hoax]

Worst fan's in the NFL:
Eagles
Pats
Jets

Nobody else comes close, except perhaps Raiders fans but I have almost forgotten what they were like when they weren't the worst franchise in the league.

Two out of three have a chance to completely fall on their dicks. Ryan is talking so much shit in the build up when he has a sophmore QB and the Eagles just sold McNabb to a division rival. If both of them have non playoff seasons I will be happy no matter what else. This fat fuck talks so much shit and has created so much hype that I'm on the fence about who to root for when New England plays the Jets this year, can't remember the last time I felt that way.

[Paelos]

Giants fans can be gigantic cockholsters, but Philly does rule the roost in the NFC for having the biggest assholes. And that's in a division with Dallas as well.

[Nebu]

Giants fans can be gigantic cockholsters, but Philly does rule the roost in the NFC for having the biggest assholes. And that's in a division with Dallas as well.

Even though I also give the nod to Phili, Dallas also needs to be on that list. 

[Hoax]

Its really hard to hate Dallas fans, they are so fair weather its really not even annoying except when they are the best team in the league. I dislike them on par with Yankees fans and Red Wings fans blah blah you have a traditionally strong team with rich ownership now fuck off you successful pricks sort of thing.

As for Giants fans, for whatever reason they are fairly rare in all the places I've lived and when I do see them they don't hold a candle to the three teams I've listed which are on another level.

I would put Steelers fans above Giants and Dallas but that may be my AFC North / Spend more time in the midwest / Fuck PA biases at work.

[Nebu]

I would put Steelers fans above Giants and Dallas but that may be my AFC North / Spend more time in the midwest / Fuck PA biases at work.

I agree with you.  I work next to two Steelers fans and they are obnoxious during the season.

[ghost]

Its really hard to hate Dallas fans, they are so fair weather its really not even annoying except when they are the best team in the league.

That is part of what makes them so dislikable to me.  There are a great number of "Cowboys fans" in the area I live and I'm convinced a great number of them don't even know what shape a football is. 

[Paelos]

I've always believed it's purely unacceptable to root for a team when you've never lived in that state, unless your state has no team.

[01101010]

I would put Steelers fans above Giants and Dallas but that may be my AFC North / Spend more time in the midwest / Fuck PA biases at work.

I agree with you.  I work next to two Steelers fans and they are obnoxious during the season.

The whole god damn city of Pittsburgh turns into assgoblins once the season starts. That's all they talk about on the god damn radio, all they talk about at work, in fact I think the Steelers and Penguins are all anyone around here actually discusses.

[ghost]

I've always believed it's purely unacceptable to root for a team when you've never lived in that state, unless your state has no team.

I give people who's parents are from an area and big fans a pass on that one. 

[Hoax]

I've always believed it's purely unacceptable to root for a team when you've never lived in that state, unless your state has no team.

That is a fuckstupid rule. Where you are from doesn't matter compared to family history, the friend that got you into the game or the star player that first captured your imagination.

[ghost]

I like to invoke that rule when dealing with Cowboys fans, Hoax.  It serves me well, haha.  What good is a rule if you can't apply it selectively?

[Paelos]

I've always believed it's purely unacceptable to root for a team when you've never lived in that state, unless your state has no team.

That is a fuckstupid rule. Where you are from doesn't matter compared to family history, the friend that got you into the game or the star player that first captured your imagination.

And thus legions of entitled Yankees fans get a free pass? Fuhgettaboutit.

[Bungee]

Aaah, Preseason. Finally some Football to WATCH and not only talk.

Also, Glenn Cofee retiring ('cuz God said so) and so the 49ers pick up Westbrook.

[01101010]

Aaah, Preseason. Finally some Football to WATCH and not only talk.

Also, Glenn Cofee retiring ('cuz God said so) and so the 49ers pick up Westbrook.

Yeah I read that and thought, WTF?

It's not like you can go and fault him for it because that would be disrespecting his beliefs and decision...but that little mouth in the back of my neck is saying: what the fuck is wrong with this guy? play 10 years, make a boat load of money, THEN open a church or do the charity thing. Oh well... it opens a roster spot for me to try out again 

[Velorath]

Also, Glenn Cofee retiring ('cuz God said so) and so the 49ers pick up Westbrook.

Yeah, Cofee retiring kinda sucked, but I'm liking Dixon so far.

[Sjofn]

I actually love Jets fans. Love them. They're so adorable and depressed!  For some reason, even though the only Raiders fans I know are the same way, I do not find Raiders fans adorable. Maybe it's because I grew up with the Jets being the Constantly Lesser Team That Doesn't Even Have Its Own Stadium Oh My God They're So Cute?

My top three shitty fans are Eagles fans by a million miles, then Cowboy fans, then Eagles fans again. I'm a Giants fan, so they are exempt. 

[Ingmar]

Coffee quitting appears to have been Jesus related.

As far as bad fans go I have heard about some pretty terrible stuff happening to people at Raiders games.

[ghost]

My experience of going to a few NFL games at various venues over the past ten or so years shows me that most NFL teams have obnoxious asshole fans.  Some of the drunken, loutish behavior makes me question whether or not I would want to take my kids to a game.  I'll just watch at home, thanks.  Colin Cowherd is right-  your couch is the best seat in the stadium.

[HaemishM]

When the live games have to stop play for television commercials, TV is in HD and has live stats updated with every play so I can track fantasy performance, hell yeah the couch is the best seat. That's not even counting the insane cost of tickets and stadium beer.

[WayAbvPar]

If you just want to see what happens, absolutely. The in stadium experience is completely different though. You can see the whole field. You can watch whichever player/area you want without worrying about the camera. You can cheer and jeer with tens of thousands of other people. You can pay outrageous prices for beer, and then nearly wet your pants when half the stadium beats you to the restroom line at halftime. You can spill beer on people nearby, and have it spilled on you.

Attending games in person is a fucking blast a couple of times a season. If the home team is playing well, I could see going to most home games. I think 5 or 6 would be about my limit though- it is taxing on both the wallet and the body. But WOW is it fun when your team is rolling and you are cheering and celebrating with the people in your section. High fiving strangers in a drunken haze is a lot of fun  

[Nebu]

I think every football fan owes it to themself to attend at least one live game with good seats.  It gives you a much better appreciation for the speed of the pro game than television ever could.

[ghost]

High fiving strangers in a drunken haze is a lot of fun  

I think I see my problem.

[Ingmar]

All going to a live pro game did was make me appreciate the live college football experience a lot more.

[Nebu]

All going to a live pro game did was make me appreciate the live college football experience a lot more.

If you REALLY understand the intricacies of football, then watching an NFL game is an amazing experience.  Watching Peyton Manning dissect a cover two defense in real time is a work of art.   

[01101010]

Been to a few Browns games when I was a kid (in the 80s when they were respectable). Being a kid, you don't really get it, but for the reasons stated above about bathroom lines, spilled drinks, asshat mouthbreathers who mortgaged their trailers for tickets screaming in your ear... no thanks. That keeps me away from most large social gatherings. I go once for the experience, then never again.

[Ingmar]

All going to a live pro game did was make me appreciate the live college football experience a lot more.

If you REALLY understand the intricacies of football, then watching an NFL game is an amazing experience.  Watching Peyton Manning dissect a cover two defense in real time is a work of art.   

I am going to assume you didn't mean that as condescending as it sounded.  

While I would agree there is something to what you're saying, there are also a lot of annoying distractions to the live experience that to me outweigh that. I've been to a pretty good number of different live sporting events, and I would rate the live NFL towards the bottom, along with the NHL and anything at the LA Coliseum (worst sight lines of any stadium I've ever been in, plus it has a track to make things farther away on top of it).

College football NOT at the Coliseum, minor league baseball, college basketball, MLB with good seats, I would put those all well ahead of the NFL experiences I've had (49ers at Candlestick for reference.)

[Nebu]

I am going to assume you didn't mean that as condescending as it sounded.  

My apologies.  I didn't mean it to come off that badly.   

The point that I was getting at is that the NFL game is like watching chess compared to the college game being more like checkers.  The games are two very different viewing experiences.  NFL football has so many different sets, assignments, and schemes, that you really have to pay attention to the details to fully appreciate the experience.

[ghost]

The point that I was getting at is that the NFL game is like watching chess compared to the college game being more like checkers.  The games are two very different viewing experiences.  NFL football has so many different sets, assignments, and schemes, that you really have to pay attention to the details to fully appreciate the experience.

I think you have to have played at a very high level (and I have not) to fully appreciate how fast and proficient NFL players are.

[Nebu]

I think you have to have played at a very high level (and I have not) to fully appreciate how fast and proficient NFL players are.

I think you just have to be a student of the game.  Many coaches never played in college. 

[WayAbvPar]

My two favorite spots to watch live are the o-line and the secondary off the ball/before the ball is thrown. You really get a feel for how exact the timing has to be on pass plays.

[01101010]

So with Favre back, how long till his streak is broken?

[naum]

When the live games have to stop play for television commercials, TV is in HD and has live stats updated with every play so I can track fantasy performance, hell yeah the couch is the best seat. That's not even counting the insane cost of tickets and stadium beer.

I hate domed stadiums. The Cardinals new stadium feels like I'm in large sized terrarium, and the sight lines are poor. It really sucks compared to Sun Devil Stadium (or whatever it's called, the stadium ASU plays in, where Cardinals also called home for almost 20 years). Though admittedly September/October games starting at 1p could be brutal, not so bad on shady side of stadium, but too sun drenched on other side. But night games would correct that ill.

Red zone channel on DirecTV (except when Steelers or Packers are on) is the way to go, especially for a family that's all heavily invested in pay fantasy leagues…

[WayAbvPar]

So with Favre back, how long till his streak is broken?

If his ankle isn't all the way healed, he will get fucking murdered inside the first month.

Seconded on the Red Zone channel. The first week it started I switched over to it to check it out during a commercial on the game I was watching, and then watched it for 3 straight hours. It is a FF player's wet dream.

[gimpyone]

If you just want to see what happens, absolutely. The in stadium experience is completely different though. You can see the whole field. You can watch whichever player/area you want without worrying about the camera. You can cheer and jeer with tens of thousands of other people. You can pay outrageous prices for beer, and then nearly wet your pants when half the stadium beats you to the restroom line at halftime. You can spill beer on people nearby, and have it spilled on you.

Attending games in person is a fucking blast a couple of times a season. If the home team is playing well, I could see going to most home games. I think 5 or 6 would be about my limit though- it is taxing on both the wallet and the body. But WOW is it fun when your team is rolling and you are cheering and celebrating with the people in your section. High fiving strangers in a drunken haze is a lot of fun  

Still waiting for that friendly live game between our teams.  That'll be the best game I've ever seem.

[ghost]

Many coaches never played in college. 

Not that many though.  I never really played, and I can see a big difference in the level of understanding between those that have and those that have not.  My buddy that played for Baylor back in the day (middle line backer) when they won the last SWC can point out stuff all the time that you just wouldn't know if you weren't in it.  Of course some folks can coach if they haven't played, but I don't think Dennis Franchione is a great example, haha.