2K Games just Announced XCOM

[trias_e]

I think you guys fell into Goreschach's sar-chasm.

[Rasix]

When shooting for sarcasm, it shouldn't look like the nonsense I'd typically see here.  Hey, but at least I didn't run with it. 

[Lantyssa]

I think you guys fell into Goreschach's sar-chasm.

It gave me a giggle at least.  Reproducing Fallout 3's success will be difficult though.  I'd feel safe betting more on Shadowrun than Fallout 3.

[Typhon]

Hmmm, this is in the press release, boldedpart makes it seem like there is some sort of strategy game there:

"XCOM is the re-imagining of the classic tale of humanity’s struggle against an unknown enemy that puts players directly into the shoes of an FBI agent tasked with identifying and eliminating the growing threat. True to the roots of the franchise, players will be placed in charge of overcoming high-stake odds through risky strategic gambits coupled with heart-stopping combat experiences that pit human ingenuity – and frailty – against a foe beyond comprehension. By setting the game in a first-person perspective, players will be able to feel the tension and fear that comes with combating a faceless enemy that is violently probing and plotting its way into our world."

...but maybe I'm just too optimistic that they aren't trying to crap all over memories one of my more cherished gaming moments.

[Astorax]

This steaming pile of dog shit makes me so mad if I could I'd flaming shitbag their CEO right now.

I LOVED the first two XCOM games.  Wasted way too much time playing them...then they buried the name with the further sequels, allowing me to come once again blinking into the light of the world.

To take a game like XCOM, and make it into an FPS is an abomination of nature and they should be shot dead for daring to defile the name XCOM.  (for the record, I feel somewhat the same way about Fallout 3 as it was a HUGE letdown over Fallout 1 and 2, just not to this extreme)

Seriously, I don't care how good of an FPS game it is, or how good the story is...why the FUCK call it XCOM other than a blatant marketing strategy to try to rope in the fans which will only be up in arms over the fact that you took everything good about the game (cause let's be honest, there's not a whole lotta story there) and shat all over it.

/soapbox

Thanks for listening.

[Ingmar]

After reading Yegolev's post I'm convinced someone should try to make a turn-based FPS.

[Dtrain]

I'd feel safe betting more on Shadowrun than Fallout 3.

A wise move. If you're correct, you just validated your opinions. If you're wrong, you can be pleasantly surprised.

But yeah, I'm betting on another Shadowrun.

[Ard]

Personally, I'm betting on Daikatana as a best case, or maybe at worst it'll be X-Com Enforcer 2.

[Bunk]

Let's do the devil's advocate thing for a second here.

A well done half life twoesque shooter with a solid cover system, intermixed with overarching story, base building and economic sub game that translates in to 3d bases you play through and also provide tech upgrade options for new weapons, etc.

Sounds ok to me.

[Ard]

Except you know that's not what this is going to be.  They're strictly trying to cash in on the name, again, having not learned their lesson from the last batch of horribly failed games to try to do that, in the wrong genre.  If you're going to make an alien themed fps, just name it something different, is it really that hard?  This is not the game fans of the series actually want, but the odds of anyone actually making an official sequel are slim to none.  Thankfully other game companies have picked up that ball, with mixed results.  I've pretty much accepted since X-Com Enforcer and Interceptor came out that the franchise is more or less done in name.

[Yegolev]

After reading Yegolev's post I'm convinced someone should try to make a turn-based FPS.

Eye of the Beholder, Magic Missile.  Wish I had thought of it.

[Rasix]

After reading Yegolev's post I'm convinced someone should try to make a turn-based FPS.

Well, it's sort of already been made.  Kind of.  Valkyria Chronicles easily could have been, but they made the combat more accessible for the audience that was likely going to be playing it.

[HaemishM]

This doesn't have to suck. I'm sure it probably will, or at least, it won't be anything like X-Com and they'll be dry-humping the corpse of the original series. But it doesn't automatically suck, unless they are deadset on the shooter aspect of the FPS moniker.

[tgr]

Calling it now. 5 hours SP, drm-infested out the wazoo, filled with suck.

Prove me wrong, bitches. I dare you.

[01101010]

After reading Yegolev's post I'm convinced someone should try to make a turn-based FPS.

I think my brain just collapsed. 

[jakonovski]

After reading Yegolev's post I'm convinced someone should try to make a turn-based FPS.

I seem to recall this German Aliens ripoff shooter/strategy game from the 90s that was pretty close.

[ahoythematey]

Fuck you guys and your FPS hate, it's going to be all about the atmosphere and crazy UFO shit. If they manage it it'll be great, even as a shooter.

What FPS hate?  It isn't like people saw 'XCOM TO BE SHOOTER" and were all, "man, Area51 was balls". 

[Murgos]

There have been lots of first person perspective turn based rpgs, in particularly in the 80's.  For instance Bard's Tale or Might and Magic.

[Fabricated]

In the future, all games will be FPS titles.

[jakonovski]

What FPS hate?  It isn't like people saw 'XCOM TO BE SHOOTER" and were all, "man, Area51 was balls". 

Shit, I liked Area 51. It was the best shooter I had for my PS2. That and Black I guess.

[Yegolev]

There have been lots of first person perspective turn based rpgs, in particularly in the 80's.  For instance Bard's Tale or Might and Magic.

Welcome to my EotB joke.

[ahoythematey]

Shit, I liked Area 51. It was the best shooter I had for my PS2. That and Black I guess.

Oh, right.  I forgot there was a PS2-era game of that name.  I was thinking Blacksite: Area 51.

[jakonovski]

Zomg! It's a screenshot!

[Ratman_tf]

If it's X-Com with an FPS interface so you command your squad in real time during missions, I might not be full of nerdrage.

If it's just an FPS set in the X-Com universe, well fuck that shit.

Somebody still needs to pick up the torch and give us a turn based squaddie game with modern graphics and shit.

[Ard]

What year do you want your graphics from?  Of varying quality, so buyer beware, or at least do your research first.

2003
http://www.gog.com/en/gamecard/ufo_aftermath

2005
http://www.gog.com/en/gamecard/ufo_aftershock

2007
http://store.steampowered.com/app/7500/

2010 (although really around 2007)
http://store.steampowered.com/app/37030/

[Teleku]

Basically feel the same as the majority here.

I'm pissed because I just want a new X-com Turn based strategy game with better graphics, interface, more weapons, more strategy, etc..

On the other hand, they could make a very neat game with base building and Rainbow 6 style combat (I loved spending a half hour before each level of rainbow six, meticulously plotting out the paths and actions my squadmates would take).  I dare say what I just described sounds like an awesome game to me, even if its denying me a good turn based game.

But we shall see I guess.

[Merusk]

FO3 was the only one of the fallouts I could be assed to finish.  The rest took too long getting to a point I could hit shit without being dead in 2 rounds.  The FPS aspect enhanced it because I could rely on my own (shitty, but better than the RNG) aim skills until such time as the VATS system made much more sense.

I don't expect X-COM to get the same treatment.  It will also lack the supreme fear of running out of enough APs to fire off a snap shot, watching that fucking Chryssalid run up behind you and knowing you're about to lose one of your best men.  Also; the joy of watching him resist the implant until your next turn.

There have been lots of first person perspective turn based rpgs, in particularly in the 80's.  For instance Bard's Tale or Might and Magic.

Welcome to my EotB joke.

S'ok man.  I got the joke, it was good.  Also, bring-back turn-based rpgs, bitches.

[Amarr HM]

I don't think cash cow is the right expression.

And you would be right to think that, I was thinking along the lines of them milking the fps genre but wrote it in a hurry out the door and it briefly made sense.

[rk47]

If it's something like SWAT 4 tactical squad shooter level of difficulty and depth, I would heartily approve. but on Console? Fuck no. It's modern warfare vs aliens all over again. I bet the White House will get blown.

[Ratman_tf]

What year do you want your graphics from?  Of varying quality, so buyer beware, or at least do your research first.

2003
http://www.gog.com/en/gamecard/ufo_aftermath

2005
http://www.gog.com/en/gamecard/ufo_aftershock

2007
http://store.steampowered.com/app/7500/

2010 (although really around 2007)
http://store.steampowered.com/app/37030/

Have you played them? Are they any good?

[Sheepherder]

Also, bring-back turn-based rpgs, bitches.

I actually don't really get why there was this huge fucking period of fucking suck gameplay sometime right around my adolescence.  It's like every drooling halfwit decided to go into business making something real-time that had no fucking business being real-time.  I think that's why I like Final Fantasy Tactics, and hate almost every other Final Fantasy.

[jakonovski]

I totally think pausable real-time a la Bioware is much better than turn based.

[SurfD]

Also, bring-back turn-based rpgs, bitches.

I actually don't really get why there was this huge fucking period of fucking suck gameplay sometime right around my adolescence.  It's like every drooling halfwit decided to go into business making something real-time that had no fucking business being real-time.  I think that's why I like Final Fantasy Tactics, and hate almost every other Final Fantasy.

Probably a direct result of an increase in game console / pc computing power.   Turn based games were the norm early on because most likely it was a bitch to try to code something "real time ish" that wasnt a complete memory hog.  Once shit became capable of processing all those simultaneous actions at once, everyone jumped on the "real time" bandwagon because they could.

[ahoythematey]

I totally think pausable real-time a la Bioware is much better than turn based.

[Ironwood]

What year do you want your graphics from?  Of varying quality, so buyer beware, or at least do your research first.

2003
http://www.gog.com/en/gamecard/ufo_aftermath

2005
http://www.gog.com/en/gamecard/ufo_aftershock

2007
http://store.steampowered.com/app/7500/

2010 (although really around 2007)
http://store.steampowered.com/app/37030/

Have you played them? Are they any good?

They're all shit.  Except that last one.  Not tried that yet.