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Reply #1435 on: April 24, 2013, 08:56:53 AM

Told ya!

Not only that, but city states are great as slowing down the 'i'm getting raped' of higher difficulties.  The AI interacts with them in the same way they do with players... so suddenly there's a field of 24 actors instead of 8 they can threaten, etc.  I found myself in the middle of a nice ring of city states that let me expand and took the brunt of some aggressive civs on my first ever full Prince game.

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Reply #1436 on: April 24, 2013, 09:00:49 AM

You know my religion is Zorosafarian (or whatever ) but I keep thinking of it as Rastarfarian.

We are super religious, have a huge military and smoke a lot of weed.

Basically we're the United States.  Oh ho ho ho. Reallllly?

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Reply #1437 on: April 24, 2013, 01:28:17 PM

Last two games in a row I have given king a go and found myself situated next to a warmonger civ like Japan or the Huns. While I have been successful at rebuffing their attacks any counter sieges tend to take a while, and by the time I start taking the fight to them in the renascence or so some expansionist civ like Rome has conquered half the map and is either a whole era ahead of the game or just rolls up from behind with a giant army of their own. Any tips? Or does it just come down to luck of the draw?

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Reply #1438 on: April 24, 2013, 03:30:24 PM

You fuckers need to quit posting about this game...I don't have time to play it! Just replaced my HDD and Civ V was the first Steam game I re-downloaded. And IT'S ALL YOUR FAULT.

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Reply #1439 on: April 24, 2013, 03:33:43 PM

This shit is addictive like no other civ.  Every game feels unique and there is a ton of depth with combat.

Took me a couple games to get into, but I am now a fan.

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Reply #1440 on: April 24, 2013, 05:14:21 PM

I guess I suck at this game. I get absolutely steamrolled at any difficulty over Prince. Prince and below is too easy. WTF am I doing wrong? I know that I need to build up a military, but even when I do I get DOW'd and just flattened.
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Reply #1441 on: April 24, 2013, 05:21:53 PM

Last two games in a row I have given king a go and found myself situated next to a warmonger civ like Japan or the Huns. While I have been successful at rebuffing their attacks any counter sieges tend to take a while, and by the time I start taking the fight to them in the renascence or so some expansionist civ like Rome has conquered half the map and is either a whole era ahead of the game or just rolls up from behind with a giant army of their own. Any tips? Or does it just come down to luck of the draw?

Yeah, that's classic.  Kill your neighbor then at least raid the far away enemy and plunder his resources.  Mines get the best gold. Try to find an ally next to him and get them to harass him. 

Lastly, when you start a new game, you can reset the map before you finish the first turn. 
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Reply #1442 on: April 25, 2013, 08:18:03 AM

I guess I suck at this game. I get absolutely steamrolled at any difficulty over Prince. Prince and below is too easy. WTF am I doing wrong? I know that I need to build up a military, but even when I do I get DOW'd and just flattened.

I've never liked the higher difficulties because of the micromanagement involved and the "You must play this civ in this way!" involved.   Are you microing every citizen and specalist at least every few turns?  (I understand you have to micro every turn at Emperor and up) 

I think there's also policy trees you have to flat-out avoid and tree jumping is common.   Check the tips at CivFanatics, it seems like everything at those levels is "go tradition or go home"

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Reply #1443 on: April 25, 2013, 01:23:51 PM

Science victory for the Greeks, home of civilization you barbarians!

I nuked the Incas just for shits and giggles...the rest of the world was so scared of me by this stage they didn't even say a word.

I'm thinking of starting a Civ with Japan and going for a quick military victory.

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Reply #1444 on: April 25, 2013, 02:22:02 PM

I guess I suck at this game. I get absolutely steamrolled at any difficulty over Prince. Prince and below is too easy. WTF am I doing wrong? I know that I need to build up a military, but even when I do I get DOW'd and just flattened.

I've never liked the higher difficulties because of the micromanagement involved and the "You must play this civ in this way!" involved.   Are you microing every citizen and specalist at least every few turns?  (I understand you have to micro every turn at Emperor and up) 

I think there's also policy trees you have to flat-out avoid and tree jumping is common.   Check the tips at CivFanatics, it seems like everything at those levels is "go tradition or go home"

I'm not micromanaging every turn, but every so often I go back and check.

I started over and decided to drop down the number of AI civs. I started with Honor instead because of all the barbarians and just started racking up honor and exp for my units. I expanded as fast as I possibly could and since there were fewer civs, I had plenty of room. Now I am in the renaissance and I am sitting at 40+ happiness and making 200+ gold per turn. I have 20 cities and the next closest AI has less than 10. I could now take on the whole world all at once and not blink an eye. I get the feeling that larger maps are not balanced very well with fewer civs. AI is too dumb when it comes to expanding even on Emperor. That said, I'm really enjoying it. There are enough things to do that it isn't boring during each turn.
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Reply #1445 on: April 28, 2013, 02:33:50 PM

Went up a difficulty and I'm thinking tradition is overpowered. Started a huge earth map as Japan, started somewhere around Kazakhstan but terrain wasn't all that good. Doesn't seem to matter, my cities seem to be behind, I've built hardly any wonders but I'm out ahead of everyone else by score. Cash is high and happiness is ok.   Only have 7 cities. Large army as usual , I just can't resist conquering people ( that means you Arabia).  Doesn't seem any harder than Prince in fact I'm doing better and I don't even have all my city state friends. 
Rest of the world is screwed once I finish honor tree.

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Reply #1446 on: April 30, 2013, 03:33:41 PM

You people got me playing this again. I am missing either a mod or a setting from my old setup, however. I used to have a list on the right side of the screen (near the events log) that showed each civ and their score to date. Anyone know if this was a mod or a setting, and how I can get it back again? I am using InfoAddict- is it maybe a setting from that?

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Reply #1447 on: April 30, 2013, 04:21:45 PM

Click the top right circle on the default UI.
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Reply #1448 on: April 30, 2013, 11:19:07 PM

No, not that. this was something on the screen at all times. It must have been a mod of some kind.

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Reply #1449 on: May 01, 2013, 03:35:29 PM

I played one online game with a friend and it showed it at all times. Maybe it's a multiplayer thing?

Edit: Yeah. Options > Interface > Check: Show Single Player Score
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Reply #1450 on: May 02, 2013, 12:34:49 AM

It's on by default in multiplayer, but you can turn it on for singleplayer games in the options screen.

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Reply #1451 on: May 20, 2013, 03:34:53 PM

List of features in upcoming brave new world expansion.

here

Must admit ill probably buy it,  civ 5 has always given me my monies worth.

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Reply #1452 on: May 20, 2013, 04:59:56 PM

That looks pretty good, I am really wanting to try out the new culture and archaeology rules.

You can even build  
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Reply #1453 on: May 20, 2013, 06:59:22 PM

That looks pretty good, I am really wanting to try out the new culture and archaeology rules.

You can even build  

I know!  Heart

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Reply #1454 on: May 21, 2013, 01:28:41 AM

Damn, thats some crazy changes.  Looks like a whole new game, but I like everything I'm reading!

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Reply #1455 on: May 21, 2013, 03:53:20 AM

Yeah that's an even bigger set of changes than the last expansion made to Civ IV.  The social policy changes alone are huge.

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Reply #1456 on: May 21, 2013, 05:09:37 AM

That looks pretty good, I am really wanting to try out the new culture and archaeology rules.

You can even build an XCOM squad!

Hah. You picked the one change I thought was cheesy. Those should be paratroopers. Or just call them "Special Forces" if it has to be something fancy. Meh.

Damn, thats some crazy changes.  Looks like a whole new game, but I like everything I'm reading!

I was thinking the same. Bigger than G&K or BTS. Really crammed with content.  Heart Heart

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Reply #1457 on: May 21, 2013, 05:23:44 AM

Cheesy is the name of the game for endgame units in V.  Let's not forget "Giant Death Robots" are the ultimate unit.

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Reply #1458 on: May 21, 2013, 06:28:28 AM

That's a crazy amount of changes.  Color me excited!
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Reply #1459 on: May 21, 2013, 09:46:01 AM

My first thought was, that's going to make multiplayer take even longer.

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Reply #1460 on: May 21, 2013, 11:25:24 AM

Who the fuck even attempts multiplayer civ games?   awesome, for real

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Reply #1461 on: May 21, 2013, 12:27:25 PM

Trying to remember if the time f13 attempted multiplayer alphacenturi was in fact so long ago that it wasn't f13.

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Reply #1462 on: May 21, 2013, 12:29:30 PM

Who the fuck even attempts multiplayer civ games?   awesome, for real

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Reply #1463 on: May 21, 2013, 01:55:21 PM

So, Bloodworth.
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Reply #1464 on: May 21, 2013, 01:59:28 PM

Who the fuck even attempts multiplayer civ games?   awesome, for real

We play lots of multiplayer CIV, its quite fun.

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Reply #1465 on: May 21, 2013, 02:00:30 PM

 DRILLING AND MANLINESS
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Reply #1466 on: May 22, 2013, 05:11:52 AM

Too perfect.

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Reply #1467 on: May 22, 2013, 07:39:14 AM

Atleast half my played games have been multiplayer. It's good fun until you hit the 1800's (epic speed) or so, when turns take too long and the turn handover takes almost as long. There's something wonky with the network protocol in Civ 5, since even fairly low numbers of units (30 or so per player) can make the game "think" for tens of seconds between turns.

However, in my opinion single player turns also take too long at that point. 1950 onwards always feel like a slog rather than a climax.

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Reply #1468 on: May 22, 2013, 12:30:18 PM

Oh. If you are the type of person that has friends, try playing co-op multiplayer against AI. Human player turns are simultaneous, so it's not actually slower than playing single player. And feel so more meaningful if you are allied and work together, help each other in wars, etc...

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Reply #1469 on: May 22, 2013, 12:34:02 PM

Is play by e-mail back in yet?  That is pretty much the only way Civ multiplayer works for me.  Otherwise it just takes way too much time where everyone needs to be there.
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