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This will be my first Civilization game. The need to play something like Dawn of Discovery that isn't Ubisoft and a desire to return to games like Master of Orion has fueled this purchase. I'm scurred.
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Merusk
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I'm still a bit torn on the one unit per tile thing.
Its been a long time, but isn't that how the original played out? IIRC you could stack in the original but the entire stack died if you lost on defence. Yep... which lead to only stacking defenseless units (like the settlers or diplomats) with an offensive unit so they weren't raped. This will be my first Civilization game. The need to play something like Dawn of Discovery that isn't Ubisoft and a desire to return to games like Master of Orion has fueled this purchase. I'm scurred. Just play at a level that's fun for you. Start out at Chieftain or Settler if you're really scared and want to learn it to the endgame.
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I don't think I've ever played above Prince. Beyond that it just became really obvious the computer was cheating, and that bothered me more than it felt like a challenge.
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Draegan
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I don't think I've ever played above Prince. Beyond that it just became really obvious the computer was cheating, and that bothered me more than it felt like a challenge.
Back in the day I played above that level. These days I just want to play an even game and enjoy doing so. But yeah I hated them cheating bastards.
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I forget what level I played on, but I recall puttering around thinking I was doing ok as I had triremes, swordsmen and 3 cities going and hadn't seen another civ yet.
That was when the stack of Knights showed up.
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I'm excited for this more than any other game.
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Lantyssa
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I don't think I've ever played above Prince. Beyond that it just became really obvious the computer was cheating, and that bothered me more than it felt like a challenge.
Same. I don't mind a challenging AI, but I simply couldn't keep up with massive bonuses above that level.
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Murgos
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I don't think I've ever played above Prince. Beyond that it just became really obvious the computer was cheating, and that bothered me more than it felt like a challenge.
Yeah, the people who play at the highest levels are generally borderline abusing game mechanics to achieve victories. To me, that's not very compelling but some people like it.
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Morat20
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I forget what level I played on, but I recall puttering around thinking I was doing ok as I had triremes, swordsmen and 3 cities going and hadn't seen another civ yet.
That was when the stack of Knights showed up.
I tended to play my first few games on the easiest or second-easiest level. However, once I got to the point where I got so pissed about my neighbor's chariots stooging around inside my borders that I used F-16s to blow them up, I'd make a note to bump up the difficulty next game. :) Then again, sometimes that is the fun.
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I don't think I've ever played above Prince. Beyond that it just became really obvious the computer was cheating, and that bothered me more than it felt like a challenge.
I always set at the 1:1 level (can't remember which one that is)… …and if I need a challenge then will opt for totally random world setups (i.e., dryer/wetter/warmer/colder planets can make it tough getting your civ ramped up, especially with a bad start location draw).
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noble is essentially 1:1. i find monarch challenging.
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Just won a random civ Pangaea game on Monarch. Got a diplomatic victory at 1726 A.D. Normalized score was like 86,000. Of course, I lucked out with Rome. Praets are so far and away the best unit in the game it's basically easy mode considering they are viable from the iron age until someone gets riflemen. Even macemen/x-bows don't totally own them because praets are so cheap. I think I could take the next difficulty up after Monarch but it would be a chore because I'd have to get a domination victory.
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Another Civ fan here! I've played II-IV and looking forward to V. As a veteran wargamer, I'm glad to see hexes and I do hope the combat is more detailed. Civ is one of the very few games that I can't stop playing. Also liked Civ Rev very much. I didn't mind giving up some complexity for lay on your couch eatin' Cheetos fun.
Shit, I may fire that up again...
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The tutorial, user experience, and how well the game conveys information will make or break this game for me. I gotta be confident that I know what I'm doing.
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Don't play the best Civ, FFH2. It's got a pretty rough learning curve. For a game like that, I'm ok with it, since it means decent versatility and depth, something vanilla civ lacks. Kael has actually made me somewhat 'meh' about Civ V, I want to know what he's doing next.
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Kael has actually made me somewhat 'meh' about Civ V, I want to know what he's doing next.
Chedd linked previously he's doing a standalone game next
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Gamespot previewI hate (HATE!!!!!) the art deco crap. The actual gameplay sounds awesome, however.
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I think the Art Deco look is fantastic, but I'm a fan of it in general so .
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I really like the art deco interface.
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Sky
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Also an art deco fan.
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You people are deranged!
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Musashi
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Art for art's sake...
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Interface looks great, imo.
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Over and out.
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I like it. Futura is the greatest font of all time.
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Sky
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You people are deranged! Its not like anything they've shown is like way out there art deco either, its pretty tame and doesn't take a lot of chances. Is it really that bad? I imagine most people wouldn't even recognize it as art deco without being told thats what it is.
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The stuff around the edges is pretty apparent, as is the look of the modern cities when they get large. Something about the outline or the shape of the interface stuff just annoys me. I am sure I won't even notice it after a few hours of play, but just looking at screenshots it is glaring.
Edit- looking at the screenshots again, it is definitely the outlining around all the icons that bugs me, as well as the font. Bleah.
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I just hope it's narrated by Leonard Nemoy.
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Sky
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I imagine most people wouldn't even recognize it as art deco without being told thats what it is.
Also, the game's clean art deco look--a tip of the hat to 2K Games' BioShock--
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Sys requirements are up. Time to plot out your upgrade if required: http://www.civilization5.com/#/community/system_requirementsMinimum Requirements Operating System: Windows® XP SP3/ Windows® Vista SP2/ Windows® 7 Processor: Dual Core CPU Memory: 2GB RAM Hard Disk Space: 8 GB Free DVD-ROM Drive: Required for disc-based installation Video: 256 MB ATI HD2600 XT or better, 256 MB nVidia 7900 GS or better, or Core i3 or better integrated graphics Sound: DirectX 9.0c-compatible sound card DirectX®: DirectX® version 9.0c Recommended Requirements Operating System: Windows® Vista SP2/ Windows® 7 Processor: 1.8 GHz Quad Core CPU Memory: 4 GB RAM Hard Disk Space: 8 GB Free DVD-ROM Drive: Required for disc-based installation Video: 512 MB ATI 4800 series or better, 512 MB nVidia 9800 series or better Sound: DirectX 9.0c-compatible sound card DirectX®: DirectX® version 11 Other Requirements: Initial installation requires one-time Internet connection for Steam authentication; software installations required (included with the game) include Steam Client, Microsoft Visual C++2008 Runtime Libraries and Microsoft DirectX. Internet Connection and acceptance of Steam™ Subscriber Agreement required for activation. See www.steampowered.com/agreement for details
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I just hope it's narrated by Leonard Nemoy.
Gonna be Morgan Sheppard. Hopefully this will be optimized for quad cores and not bog down to a grind in the modern/future age.
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The tutorial, user experience, and how well the game conveys information will make or break this game for me.
I want you to promise me now that you will BiiF this.
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