2012

[Ratman_tf]

I'd give real money to see the movie end like that.

"Where do we go now?" and John Cusazk shrugs.

[angry.bob]

i.e. - neither of them know how to fly, which would explain why they don't just fly up and get the hell out.

Except that people who don't know how to fly would be way better up in the air. There's way less stuff to run into the higher up you go and lots more space to recover from a stall. Don't even get me started on that scene...

Also, they aren't rocket ships. One of the trailers shows the back of one for a second and there's a giant screw on it. Giant ships that are probably designed to be submersible or at least run with most of it below the water. That way IT WILL BE IMMUNE TO TITAL WAVES, CURRENTS, AND GIANT ASTEROIDS, RAWR>.

Also x2, 10,000 BC was fucking horrible. But a girl in my anthropology class thought it was a good movie to do a paper on for extra credit. My mockery made her cry. Many people thought I was total dick about it, but when your mastodon hunting movie cavemen with names like Tic-Tic track slavers to ancient Egypt/Persia from 300 that happens to be full of Phorusrhacidae... But the telescope was the ... I can't even put it into words. I guess I should just have been happy that their anachronisms didn't span across more than two geologic epochs.

[Delmania]

I got as far as the Mayans being the 'world's oldest civilisation' and turned it off.

Well, their calendar is pretty damn accurate.  However the whole concept of 2012 being the end of the world is the result of a very limited understanding of the Mayan calendar  Essentially, 2012 is when the current cycle ends and the next one begins...

[IainC]

I got as far as the Mayans being the 'world's oldest civilisation' and turned it off.

Well, their calendar is pretty damn accurate.  However the whole concept of 2012 being the end of the world is the result of a very limited understanding of the Mayan calendar  Essentially, 2012 is when the current cycle ends and the next one begins...

I know that. What does that have to do with the comment you quoted?

[Sir T]

The Epic of Gilgamesh predates the Mayans by a good couple of millenia.

[Delmania]

I got as far as the Mayans being the 'world's oldest civilisation' and turned it off.

Well, their calendar is pretty damn accurate.  However the whole concept of 2012 being the end of the world is the result of a very limited understanding of the Mayan calendar  Essentially, 2012 is when the current cycle ends and the next one begins...

I know that. What does that have to do with the comment you quoted?

Not a damned thing.  I misread it.

[NowhereMan]

Also x2, 10,000 BC was fucking horrible. But a girl in my anthropology class thought it was a good movie to do a paper on for extra credit. My mockery made her cry. Many people thought I was total dick about it, but when your mastodon hunting movie cavemen with names like Tic-Tic track slavers to ancient Egypt/Persia from 300 that happens to be full of Phorusrhacidae... But the telescope was the ... I can't even put it into words. I guess I should just have been happy that their anachronisms didn't span across more than two geologic epochs.

I can promise you whoever was overseeing your tearing her apart was only conflicted in knowing he couldn't be too nasty to the girl in question or let you upset her too much. Unless you were lucky enough to have someone with tenure, in which case he would have defended her if he wanted to bang her.

[angry.bob]

I can promise you whoever was overseeing your tearing her apart was only conflicted in knowing he couldn't be too nasty to the girl in question or let you upset her too much. Unless you were lucky enough to have someone with tenure, in which case he would have defended her if he wanted to bang her.

Yeah, pretty much. Having now seen Year One I have to say it was almost certainly the result of Jack Black watching 10,000 BC and thinking "WTF?". They're practically the same movie, just one is intentionally funny. Actually, Year One would be more historically accurate.

[WindupAtheist]

Was I the only one watching 10,000 BC and waiting for it to go full Stargate on us? Like I was just waiting for their god to be an alien or something.

[HaemishM]

Apparently, the creators (I use that term loosely) of 10,000 BC (also the creators of Stargate) considered tying them together in just that way, but decided against it.

[Der Helm]

Apparently, the creators (I use that term loosely) of 10,000 BC (also the creators of Stargate) considered tying them together in just that way, but decided against it.

Isn't there another stargate direct-to-dvd movie in the works right now ?

[lamaros]

I am excited about this movie, it is out tomorrow.

[UnSub]

Saw a preview screening last night. Excellent destruction porn - should be called "Roland Emmerich Destroys America". Has a quite a few disaster movie cliches and ultimately you want to see the Russian twins die just because, but it keeps going at a fair enough clip that you generally get over it. Well acted too from some roles - Cusak delivers his everyman persona, Chiwetel Ejiofor is solid despite some awful dialogue. Oliver Platt phones it in (christ, he used to be so good) but although he's meant to be the 'evil' guy, it is hard to argue with a lot of what his character says about how things have to happen, so he delivers it well. Some of the accents are terrible though.

Biggest problem? Length. It's 2.5 hours. It's got every single disaster film in it - a ship overturns, volcanoes erupt, things fall in sinkholes, etc, so no disaster category is left unturned.

Probably the best role in the film is Woody Harrelson's nutball. He's just fun. Also I don't know who the American Captain is, but I got a kick out of his Grand Admiral Moff Tarkin vibe.

If you want to you could pick the movie to pieces, but I just enjoyed things falling down / blowing up.

[WindupAtheist]

Chiwetel Ejiofor

That guy is good at everything.

[schild]

Chiwetel Ejiofor

That guy is good at everything.

Pretty much.

[Mrbloodworth]

Can't you guys just be happy to see tons of this blow up and be destroyed?

[Velorath]

Can't you guys just be happy to see tons of this blow up and be destroyed?

Sure.  You just need to watch the trailers for that though.  Nobody should feel the need to sit through the two and a half hours this movie runs.

[jason]

If you think that the spectacle of those effects are done justice by the trailer, then I'm thinking you haven't actually seen the movie.

[Mrbloodworth]

At least give the artists some love.

[Velorath]

If you think that the spectacle of those effects are done justice by the trailer, then I'm thinking you haven't actually seen the movie.

I work at a theater, so yeah I've seen the movie.  I'm actually not a particularly huge fan of the special effects here, because I'm not really into CG (although it is fairly well done CG here for the most part, but there's also some shit that looks really bad too), and because some of the situations are fairly ridiculous and take away from the special effects.

[WindupAtheist]

Can't you guys just be happy to see tons of this blow up and be destroyed?

Man, yeah, but you know? I've been watching the world blow up three times per summer for the last fifteen years.

[schild]

Can't you guys just be happy to see tons of this blow up and be destroyed?

Man, yeah, but you know? I've been watching the world blow up three times per summer for the last fifteen years.

I don't think I've seen it in a theater since Independence Day though. Maybe you see too many blockbusters?

[Velorath]

At least give the artists some love.

I don't know, the destruction was a little too... clean I guess for my tastes. When I see that much shit falling apart I'd like to see a little more dust.  It didn't feel like the end of the world, it felt like an amusement park ride.

[Evildrider]

Sooo.. you didn't see the huge dust clouds that were all over the place? 

[Velorath]

Sooo.. you didn't see the huge dust clouds that were all over the place? 

Not as much as I'd have liked.  The sequence where they're flying out of L.A. in particular just didn't do if for me, largely because it seemed like they wanted to be able to focus on things like people falling out of collapsing buildings and such.

[bhodi]

The trailer was right. All future catastrophes will be compared to this film.

I had a fun time. I couldn't really stop laughing during the plane takeoff. It was just great. I completely lost it when they flew under the train.

[Jeff Kelly]

Saw it yesterday and disagree with the opinions voiced so far.

The movie is one giant plot hole after another and the only purpose of the plot is to string the different scenes of the destruction of the world together in some form of coherent way (which fails miserably).

The destruction itself feels like a sanitized disney theme park ride and left me totally cold. I didn't care about any of the people who died (mostly heroically) and I didn't even care about the destruction itself because it felt and looked totally aseptic. The only blood you see at all is from the guy whose leg got crushed in the door mechanism and you never actually see anybody die.

It felt like a giant 'meh' that made no sense whatsoever. Worse, unlike Independence Day it took itself way to serious. My buddy I watched it with even went so far as to say that Armaggedon was a better movie than 2012, which really say it all.

I'd suggest Deep Impact if you want more realism or Armaggedon (or even ID 4) if you need more comedy. 2012 is just 'destroyed in seconds: the movie' narrated by John Cusack.

[Threash]

I came to watch the world burn and stayed for the WE DIDN'T LISTEN!, which i did not actually get.

[schild]

I'd suggest Deep Impact if you want more realism or Armaggedon (or even ID 4) if you need more comedy. 2012 is just 'destroyed in seconds: the movie' narrated by John Cusack.

Which sounds better than Deep Impact or Armageddon. If John Cusack had joined Goldblum and Smith on ID4, it would've been the most amazing blockbuster ever.

I mean seriously, what the fuck do you people want from a movie like this?

Jeff, you should really watch ID4 and Armageddon again. The latter is total ass and the former wasn't even self-aware. Perhaps you all have crossed neurons in your brains with Men in Black, but ID4 took itself COMPLETELY SERIOUSLY.

[pxib]

...but ID4 took itself COMPLETELY SERIOUSLY.

You could tell by that one serious expression Bill Pullman held the entire movie.

[Falwell]

I actually enjoyed 2012 because I went in expecting a fairly shallow movie with an amazing special effects show. That's what I got. It's the ID4 of the next generation.

[schild]

...but ID4 took itself COMPLETELY SERIOUSLY.

You could tell by that one serious expression Bill Pullman held the entire movie.

You could tell because it took itself seriously. Not because Bill Pullman is a ridiculously third rate Emilio Estevez, who himself is a terrible actor.

[Abagadro]

but ID4 took itself COMPLETELY SERIOUSLY.

I actually think it is the exact opposite.  Just look at the cast: Harvey Feinstein, Brent Spiner, Harry Connick Jr., Judd Hirsh, Goldbloom, Pullman, Fox, Smith.   The filmmakers were fucking with people the whole time with a smirk on their faces. I mean, the "unlikely hero" of the story is Eddie Johnson from National Lampoon's Vacation. The whole thing is a put on.

[schild]

but ID4 took itself COMPLETELY SERIOUSLY.

I actually think it is the exact opposite.  Just look at the cast: Harvey Feinstein, Brent Spiner, Harry Connick Jr., Judd Hirsh, Goldbloom, Pullman, Fox, Smith.   The filmmakers were fucking with people the whole time with a smirk on their faces. I mean, the "unlikely hero" of the story is Eddie Johnson from National Lampoon's Vacation. The whole thing is a put on.

[Abagadro]

I really wish I could pull off a salmon-colored scarf.