Guild Wars 2

[DLRiley]

Hopefully they will have the sense of a RA style "random join" but without it you can still join games in progress.

There is a automated "join game" button in the image they showed of the interface, yes.  I just think it's funny (and a terrible idea) that after they spent tons of time trying to get rid of syncing in RAs, they're basically baking it in with the sequel.

I don't see why this is a terrible idea. If your team is just a ball of idiots losing to 2 guys who out of 4 who know what they are doing is 9 times out of 10 a act of mercy, that if they are gracious, the match ends hilariously in under 10 seconds. If your surrounded by players around your skill level, assuming your not a total scrubs, 2 guys out of 4 who probably not on vent and using the chat box to talk isn't going to make much difference.

[Tyrnan]

Did they say that was the only way they were doing things?

That quoted article makes it seem like those are the only two styles of pvp.

Seems that's the only one they're ready to talk about at the moment but the others are still in the game.

http://www.guildwars2guru.com/forum/extremely-dissatisfied-with-pvp-t20413.html?p=859564#post859564

Just to clarify: Conquest is not the only PvP game type. We have other formats that we are not ready to talk about, so for gamescom we are focusing our information releases on formats that we are ready to talk about. We'll talk more about other PvP game types in the future.

Secondly, as I mentioned in another thread and on our social networks, the World vs. World format is still in the game. Again, for this set of information releases at gamescom/PAX, we're focusing on stuff we're ready to talk about in public. We'll have more about that in the future when we're ready to share more information about it.

[KallDrexx]

Lolz you guys just collectively derp derped. Ok let me make it clear for the rest of the unwashed masses.

Thanks.  I haven't been paying that close attention lately so I wasn't aware the other modes were still in.  That's good news.

[Draegan]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0nCHPl_mEU&feature=player_embedded

That looks super fuuuuuuuuun.

[luckton]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0nCHPl_mEU&feature=player_embedded

That looks super fuuuuuuuuun.

Agreed...that does look pretty bad-ass.  I guess I'll put this on the radar.

[kildorn]

.. when the hell does this come out?

Seriously, that's how you make melee and ranged in an encounter FUN. And make you feel like there's scary shit out there that you need fucking artillery for.

Arenanet, take my money already.

[caladein]

I don't see why this is a terrible idea. If your team is just a ball of idiots losing to 2 guys who out of 4 who know what they are doing is 9 times out of 10 a act of mercy, that if they are gracious, the match ends hilariously in under 10 seconds. If your surrounded by players around your skill level, assuming your not a total scrubs, 2 guys out of 4 who probably not on vent and using the chat box to talk isn't going to make much difference.

Pub stomping is a problem even with smaller games but this isn't just 4v4.  This goes up to 10v10.

[HaemishM]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0nCHPl_mEU&feature=player_embedded

That looks super fuuuuuuuuun.

That's a SMALL dragon.

SPROING!

[01101010]

That's a whole lotta shit going on - and I likes it. 

[Numtini]

I'm trying really really hard not to get excited about this because so many other games have been disappointments, but it's getting harder and harder not to be a fangirl.

[DLRiley]

I don't see why this is a terrible idea. If your team is just a ball of idiots losing to 2 guys who out of 4 who know what they are doing is 9 times out of 10 a act of mercy, that if they are gracious, the match ends hilariously in under 10 seconds. If your surrounded by players around your skill level, assuming your not a total scrubs, 2 guys out of 4 who probably not on vent and using the chat box to talk isn't going to make much difference.

Pub stomping is a problem even with smaller games but this isn't just 4v4.  This goes up to 10v10.

There are more pubs than organized groups, again whats with all the bunched up panties.

[caladein]

It was said as well as possible last page:

Looks bad, games that are set up manually by the players usually the least fair games you can make.

They've gone from a system that keeps matchmaking out of player hands (RAs) and thrown it away completely for one that gives players all the cards.  That's not progress, that's moving us backwards.

[DLRiley]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUB677OVIus
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uB8z_2OJE70&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL

Seems to be a straight translation of HB. I don't find that comforting, considering that i really don't think kills aren't worth nearly as much as they should.

[KallDrexx]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0nCHPl_mEU&feature=player_embedded

That looks super fuuuuuuuuun.

See Mythic, that's how you do public quests.

[SnakeCharmer]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0nCHPl_mEU&feature=player_embedded

That looks super fuuuuuuuuun.

Take my money, NCSoft.  Take it now.  All of it. 

When is this going live?

[DLRiley]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0nCHPl_mEU&feature=player_embedded

That looks super fuuuuuuuuun.

Take my money, NCSoft.  Take it now.  All of it. 

When is this going live?

Never give your money to NCsoft.
Now ArenaNet can have my first born.

[Sky]

I doubt that would be a good deal for them.

[Dark_MadMax]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUB677OVIus
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uB8z_2OJE70&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL

Seems to be a straight translation of HB. I don't find that comforting, considering that i really don't think kills aren't worth nearly as much as they should.

Dont know wtf HE is  but pvp combat looks damn good and dynamic. Maybe I will pick this one up after all

[PalmTrees]

Massively had a tidibit and video of some crafting, http://massively.joystiq.com/2011/08/21/guild-wars-2s-crafting-system-detailed-and-demonstrated/#continued

Not very interesting. Click and drag components into the crafting station's slots and push the button. Although filling up a crafting xp bar is better than random chance for a skill up.
Still would like to know how you switch between your active and inactive tradeskills.

[DLRiley]

http://www.tentonhammer.com/gw2/gamescom/2011/pvp-interview-with-eric-flannum

 

[Crumbs]

It’s basically this giant strategy game with four really big maps, keep sieges, supply lines and all kinds of strategy. At the same time there are mobs for people to kill if they want to, and you can XP up from level 1 all the way to level 80 in World vs. World

Holy crap this game sounds better every day. 

[Spiff]

For competitive PvP it’s not going to include any power advancement, it’s going to include cosmetic advancement.

I was sort of expecting 'em to go this way, but comforting to have it in writing.
Fuck getting spanked for 5 ranks 'cause I wasn't there at the start or didn't grind as hard/fast as some poopsocks sporting full sets of PvP gear.

My own (lack of) skill holds me back enough already. 

[Nebu]

There's nothing wrong with providing perks with pvp advancement as long as the perks are a) cosmetic or b) offer lateral advancement pathways.  I'm perfectly willing to suffer some kind of pvp grind if the rewards give me more playstyle and/or cosmetic options. 

Rift and WoW pvp is just broken.  Horribly broken. 

[Lantyssa]

The World vs World stuff might get me playing PvP.  Matches don't tend to interest me, but free-form when I'm in the mood is awesome.

[tazelbain]

There's nothing wrong with providing perks with pvp advancement as long as the perks are a) cosmetic or b) offer lateral advancement pathways.  I'm perfectly willing to suffer some kind of pvp grind if the rewards give me more playstyle and/or cosmetic options.  

Rift and WoW pvp is just broken.  Horribly broken.  

Lateral advancement doesn't stop people from bitching. Look at LoL.  

Anyway,  Fort Ashenwood and Jade Quarry are my favorite objective maps ever in any game.  I hope they can work in challenging maps like that with this system but I doubt it.

[Numtini]

Honestly, the game is starting to sound too good to be true.

[Hawkbit]

I agree, but if anyone can pull it off, they can. 

I'm still trying to figure out how they keep this profitable.  I know there's going to be a cash shop, but I just don't understand how they anticipate keeping the money coming into their doors once the box is sold.  Especially if they're only offering cosmetics and extra char slots.

[Numtini]

Well, they're also going to offer expansions and I'm going to guess that at least part of their development process is making it easy and cheap to create them. Also, any of the cash shop stuff including the expansions is pure profit with no middleman.

[jakonovski]

The original Guild Wars expansions had a price/frequency ratio that was roughly the same as a regular MMO subs.

[Draegan]

Did anyone see that Sylvari Necro rape train video from gamescom and the lich form?

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OK1-UKx8_uc

[01101010]

Oh god damn it... I am a sucker for an evil looking Scythe. Now I am going to have to watch for this game too?  -.-

[Lantyssa]

If you watch for one game, it should be this one.  Don't feel bad.

[HaemishM]

Lich mode is the tits. 

[Morfiend]

If you watch for one game, it should be this one.  Don't feel bad.

Agreed. Sadly, for most people it will be SWTOR.  

[Velorath]

You can watch for both pretty easily since GW2 doesn't have to worry about competing for subscription dollars.