Guild Wars 2

[Ratman_tf]

So I just heard Arena Net's saying that GW2's gonna have level smoothing. (Characters of any level can group together.) If they manage it, I think it's gonna be a big coup. I fucking quit TOR because of that shit.

[Draegan]

New Dev Blog on WvW: http://www.arena.net/blog/mike-ferguson-takes-your-wvw-questions-here-and-on-reddit


Mostl interesting part on Server Transfers:

Server Transfers
Some of our more astute fans asked about the complications involved with switching servers and how it would interact with world bonuses. Every account has a home server where your characters are created. You can only fight for your home world in WvW. You can visit other servers, and while you are visiting, you still get the world bonus from your home world instead of the bonus for the world you are visiting. If you switch your home server, you lose the bonus from your previous home world and are not eligible for the bonus for your new server at least until the beginning of the next battle for the Mists. We may extend this disqualification into the next match or possibly even longer to discourage people from switching servers right before a battle ends in order to get an awesome bonus. You will have to pay a fee to change your home server (price undetermined), and that will also discourage people from server hopping to chase world bonuses.

On leveling:  You are downleveled if you enter a lower level area from what I here.  I don't know the range.

[Crumbs]

Bat Country

I'd like to get in on this, but I already submitted an app without any guild fields filled in.  Is there a way to go in and edit your profile or something?  I'm not seeing it...

Well in any case I'll be a-knockin when the game goes live.  There is much spying to do 

I find myself looking at this like alot of you looked at TOR and thinking it just doesn't have a chance in hell of living up to the hype.

The difference is that GW2 is offering innovation and much of what I've been looking for in a game for almost a decade.  There's always the chance that they don't pull it off, but it's nice to see that someone is at least trying.  There also seems to be a stark contrast between the two dev teams when it comes to understanding and appreciation of the genre. 

[EWSpider]

Just a random tidbit that made we want to stand up and applaud:

"The overflow shard is Guild Wars 2's version of a queuing system. When a map or a world you want to log into is at capacity limit, the game will ask you if you want to play on an overflow server - so you can actually play while you are in a queue. Once space opens on your world, the game will ask you if you want to join your friends on your world. You keep all the progress you made while you were playing on the overflow server."

[tazelbain]

So I can pve with anyone as a guest on their server but any world pvp is with my home world.  Pretty good compromise.  I wonder if you could join guilds (remember that you can join multiple guilds) as a guest on a server?  Interesting if you could go join on a guild on a foreign server to see if you like it before you spend to move over and if you don't care about world pvp you could just stay as a guest no problem.

[Bungee]

Server Jumping, Queuing, PvP, Skillsystem... it's all just "of course, why didn't that come up in an earlier game"?

[Lantyssa]

Everyone was too busy trying to be the next EQ or WoW to innovate.

[Ratman_tf]

Everyone was too busy trying to be the next EQ or WoW to innovate. put two brain cells together for a few minutes.

[Furiously]

This is all sounding too good... It's gonna have to suck right? Right?

[Nebu]

This is all sounding too good... It's gonna have to suck right? Right?

I have set my expectations at the "slightly better than GW" level.  If they can manage that, they get my money.  If they manage better, they win my loyalty. 

[Hawkbit]

After all the bullshit MMOs of the last five years, I literally have no expectations at all. 

I take that back; I expect GW2 will melt my five year old PC.  I really need to get an upgrade going.

[Ingmar]

Oh I don't know, if it is anything like the first one it will run on a toaster.

[murdoc]

This is all sounding too good... It's gonna have to suck right? Right?

I keep reading more info and keep thinking this exact same thought. This must be too good, it can't be what they're actually DOING...

[tazelbain]

I thought WAR and AoC had great ideas but never got a chance to do playtest/refinement cycle to turn great ideas into fun ideas due to externals.

[tmp]

This is all sounding too good... It's gonna have to suck right? Right?

Well, look at it this way -- for all the talk about how great GW is, do many people regularly play it, still? No matter how good it turns out give it a few months tops and any normal person will grow bored and move on just the same. Not that there's anything wrong with a game being fun for "just" few months.

[Fabricated]

Well, since there's no sub, there's nothing stopping people from actually playing casually. Just hop on literally whenever instead of lowering your "minimum" time allotment to justify $15 a month or whatever.

[Hawkbit]

I don't have numbers, but I play GW still, and there are always people online.  The chat spam/run requests are much lower, but it's still there.  

[luckton]

Oh I don't know, if it is anything like the first one it will run on a toaster.

Aging PCs aside, I would kill for a MMO release that would give DirectX 9 support the finger.  DX11 made WoW and LotRO 1000x better performance and visual-wise.  SWTOR and Rift could benefit from such an upgrade.

[Nevermore]

Oh I don't know, if it is anything like the first one it will run on a toaster.

Guild Wars is one of the few games that freezes up on me 3 or 4 times a night.  Eve is the other one, for some bizarre reason.  My computer has a flaky GPU and just doesn't like those two games.  WoW and SWTOR I only get maybe two freezes a week.

[Ingmar]

Well, yeah, stuff like that will always happen to some machines, sure. What I mean though is that for how good the game looks, it is technically very undemanding and was even at release.

[Shatter]

So how bout that 1 million sign ups(in 48hrs) for beta :P

http://www.gamespot.com/news/guild-wars-2-beta-attracts-1-million-applicants-6351024

[Draegan]

Man, fuck gamespot.

[Furiously]

Wow. That isn't good odds!

[Kageru]

Good for them, it will get them some nice publicity and indicates good interest in the title. With SWTOR under-performing and WoW aging they may do quite well if they can actually make their promises work.

[Shatter]

So has anyone here gone back to GW1 to get all the bonus stuffs for GW2?  Never played GW1 but was thinking of going to do it since I have time, just cant decide if I want to buy the trilogy, etc to do it...

[Tyrnan]

You'll need at least Eye of the North (for Hall of Monuments) and one of the main campaigns (since EotN is an expansion and not a standalone campaign) so it's probably just easier to pick up the trilogy pack + EotN and have access to everything for a slightly higher cost. And iirc having access to all the campaigns makes it a lot easier (or maybe even possible) to get all the points you need.

The first 10-15 points are relatively painless to get but going beyond that will require some grind and/or a fair amount of in-game cash. This guide should help you out. I've only skimmed it but it seems to be pretty good.

[Zetor]

I got my 30 points half a year or so ago (by going back to a 6-year-old vet account that I haven't used since 2007ish), and the first post in that thread is pretty good. The quotes in the second post otoh are written from the POV of a hardcore GW player who already beat all campaigns and has a solid vanquish-ready solo build, so it'll require quite some time investment if you haven't. Armor and minis are some of the easiest points and the ones you should (IMO) focus on if you're not planning to dive into the game seriously enough to do missions and whatnot. And yeah, you're best off getting all 3 campaigns, as some of the easier points depend on you having each of them.

First thing you should do is raise some cash for the armor etc... as a new player this is probably not going to happen, unfortunately. Otherwise you should start by looking over your characters' birthday presents -- if you have any 6th year presents, sell them unopened for 20 ecto (~160k gold) apiece, and take a stock of minipets you got from other presents. Armor and minis are some of the easiest points, and you can get them by m aking a few good deals on your veteran stuff. If you don't have this, you'll have to make money by progressing through the storyline missions and selling any marketable loot you find in Kamadan... probably going to take a while.

[Shatter]

Ok then, realistically, what kind of time are we talking to do this then?  I can spend a few hours a day, we talking months of "work" and is it even worth doing for someone who hasnt played before? 

[luckton]

Ok then, realistically, what kind of time are we talking to do this then?  I can spend a few hours a day, we talking months of "work" and is it even worth doing for someone who hasnt played before? 

I don't think so.

Right now, on Steam, to get both the trilogy and EotN, you're looking at $30-40.  I too was interested in maybe doing this, and by all means don't let me stop you, but considering that it will take more than a few hours every day, along with the fact that once GW2 comes out you'll probably never play GW1 again, it just seems like a fruitless investment to me.  The system was designed for those that have been dedicated to GW1 from the beginning.

Unless you're a bad enough dude to play the game hardcore until GW2 comes out,and don't mind dropping $30-40 for a game that you'll only play for a few months at best and then shelf, I would pass on this challenge.

[Sky]

So has anyone here gone back to GW1 to get all the bonus stuffs for GW2?  Never played GW1 but was thinking of going to do it since I have time, just cant decide if I want to buy the trilogy, etc to do it...

I tried it and lasted 4 hours. Awful game.

[caladein]

You lasted a lot longer than I did!

[Outlawedprod]

Hai Guyz, I hear GW2 game breaking pve content is just Tank & Spank.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Plsd0eK36lY#t=2299s

lol @ 38:20

[kildorn]

I watched that, but I didn't actually see a tank and spank fight. He used the phrase to mean "just dps down the boss" as far as I could tell. There was nobody tanking him, and nobody healing the tank?

I will say that the fight is loltastic because the boss is just twoshotting people and they're releasing and running half a room back from the bind point to death zerg him down.

I'm curious if you got something else from that video?

[Ratman_tf]

You lasted a lot longer than I did!

This is my one hang up about GW2. (Yay! A bitching point!) I played GW on and off over the years, but hardly even a fraction of the time into it that I put into other MMOGs.

I think I posted here about how it took me 2 years Real Time to go from level 11 to 12 or sommat like that.  

[Shatter]

Aight, F going to play GW1, thanks for saving me $40