Guild Wars 2

[Modern Angel]

It's LC. He's deathly serious about shit which doesn't matter. His very seriousness is how he trolls.

[EWSpider]

It's LC. He's deathly serious about shit which doesn't matter. His very seriousness is how he trolls.

Just wondering if he knows something I don't, because the WvWvW pvp sounds quite promising.  It's basically a 3 sided war ala DAoC with structures that can be captured and controlled.  Only GW2 is taking it a step further and adding in the ability to "win".

[Draegan]

He be troll'in.

[Lantyssa]

It's LC.  It's that his tastes are insignificant to the majority of gamers, even f13ers, than that he's a troll.

[Draegan]

Maybe he's angry that female characters have a longer GCD than male characters.

[Nebu]

Insider has posted a few pvp related screen shots.  No real information with them though:

http://www.guildwarsinsider.com/2012/01/guild-wars-2-new-pvp-map/

Some pvp armor:

http://www.guildwarsinsider.com/2012/01/exclusive-screenshots-pvp-scholar-armor-lobby/

Thanks for the links.  To be honest, I don't really care how it looks as long as it's fluid.  I want to hear about gameplay, class balance, and objectives.  I want details on mechanics. 

[EWSpider]

I just posted those links because they had some previously unseen screen shots.

If you want a good summary of currently available information (still a bit sparse) than this wiki is pretty good:

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/PvP

[Nebu]

I just posted those links because they had some previously unseen screen shots.

If you want a good summary of currently available information (still a bit sparse) than this wiki is pretty good:

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/PvP

Awesome.  Thanks for the link.

[Draegan]

I can't speak about balance but I know beta is coming up soonish so maybe we'll get more info.

As far as combat goes, this game is extremely fluid, at least at their demos.  Character handles well, graphics are great, animations match key-presses, everything is fluid and responsive.  ArenaNet has done a great job with that.

You can youtube a few PVP matches from some of the conventions if you want.  I think there was some good ones from E3 2011

Ninja Edit:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kge6AeskWLA

Here's some Dev played PVP as an elementalist at Gamescom.

[Tyrnan]

Some videos from Pax Prime last year. The 5v5 tournament videos were pretty awesome from what I remember. In fact, I think I'll go watch them again 

[March]

It's LC. He's deathly serious about shit which doesn't matter. His very seriousness is how he trolls.

Just wondering if he knows something I don't, because the WvWvW pvp sounds quite promising.  It's basically a 3 sided war ala DAoC with structures that can be captured and controlled.  Only GW2 is taking it a step further and adding in the ability to "win".

I like the idea quite a bit... hope they pull it off.

However, I can't help but notice that early versions of WaR were more like what GW2 might have been... are we going to see GW2 attempt to make DAOC-2?  Oh, the irony.

[Draegan]

Well there are no hard coded factions in this game.

[schild]

When you spend as much time playing shitty MMOGs as LC does, all you know is trolling.

[Sheepherder]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=5_WE3Vt-g9E#t=205s

[Crumbs]

I was followed on Twitter by a person named @MargieGuildWars.  Among her tweets is one about a rumor that GW2 will launch on June 30. 

http://games.on.net/article/14764/Rumour_Guild_Wars_2_to_Launch_on_June_30

[01101010]

I was followed on Twitter by a person named @MargieGuildWars.  Among her tweets is one about a rumor that GW2 will launch on June 30. 

http://games.on.net/article/14764/Rumour_Guild_Wars_2_to_Launch_on_June_30

Amazon release date? Really? We are going with that? 

[Crumbs]

I was followed on Twitter by a person named @MargieGuildWars.  Among her tweets is one about a rumor that GW2 will launch on June 30. 

http://games.on.net/article/14764/Rumour_Guild_Wars_2_to_Launch_on_June_30

Amazon release date? Really? We are going with that? 

To the extent that you'd "go" with any other rumor.  Just thought I'd post it to see if anyone else could corroborate or shoot down. 

[Draegan]

Hmm I duno, Gamestop had a release date of January 30th 2014.  Who do we believe?

[UnsGub]

Engine has been finished for a long, long, time.  Amount or lack of content is the bottleneck to shipping.

[Zetor]

They hired Massively's GW editor as a community manager two weeks ago. If they're hiring CMs, it indicates either an even larger hype train approaching, or 'more open beta' Soon™. I think a late June release date is certainly possible, all things considered...

[Shatter]

June would be great, F September which I am expecting

[Draegan]

They just started inviting the press to play the game from what I've seen.  Beta very soon most likely.

[Hawkbit]

GW2 on Consoles post-PC launch via Massively

[Numtini]

GW2 on Consoles post-PC launch via Massively

Given the fate of every other game that's announced a console version, I'd think companies would be starting to get superstitious.

[Lantyssa]

They're already bucking the trend on making decent online games and a sequel.  Why not go for a trifecta?

[Morfiend]

World vs World vs World Info.

Sounds like a mix between DAOC and WAR RvR. In a good way.

[HaemishM]

That sounds a lot like a mixture of the good parts of DAoC and WoW battlegrounds, with some extra coolness thrown in. Still not that happy about the "Kill the NPC lord to take the castle" mechanic, but it's understandable. I'd rather it work more like a contestable flag object - you must reach the throne room of the castle and hold it for 10-15 minutes - any enemy players within the castle's boundaries cause the timer to pause or slow down (depending on the ratio of enemies to friends) and only by removing all the players from the throne room can the timer reset.

Having neutral factions you can draft for help by doing PVE quests is a cool mechanic.

[01101010]

World vs World vs World Info.

Sounds like a mix between DAOC and WAR RvR. In a good way.

This sounds all well and good. I am hoping they deliver on this - however, I will wait and see how the players fuck things up. 

[HaemishM]

I'm going to guess it'll start with z-index exploits to kill keep lords from unassailable positions. 

[murdoc]

Oh man, that is EXACTLY the gameplay I want.



...If they can pull it off.

[Furiously]

That sounds good...if done right.

[pxib]

That upgrades require time to complete means there's a big advantage for the two most powerful sides to continuously flatten the weaker third before they turn to their own combat rather than two weak forces aligning against a strong. The strongest sides will tend to maintain a larger group of warriors, since everybody loves winning, and will be able to turn around and recapture whatever they need... the weakest side will never be able to complete its upgrades, so spending money on them would just be a waste.

[luckton]

Count me in on the bandwagon after reading that article.  Cross your fingers, folks.

[UnsGub]

the weakest side will never be able to complete its upgrades, so spending money on them would just be a waste.

This is a solved problem.  It is their mistake to make to not use an existing solution (Planetside) or fail to reinvent the wheel.

[Miasma]

If you are facing different servers how would you know who was weakest to begin with?  And if the rankings are robust enough you will be playing other teams at your own level so there won't even be one clearly weakest group.