Cataclysm

[pxib]

The first two cinematics were about the sort of characters you could play. The last two have been about the bosses you will fight. To an extent the second was halfway there.

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I was thinking



but yeah, that's probably closer.

[Ironwood]

Beautiful cinematic as always, this time they've managed to capture a little of why and how Cataclysm has come to pass, validating Deathwing's actions.

How ?

[Mattemeo]

Beautiful cinematic as always, this time they've managed to capture a little of why and how Cataclysm has come to pass, validating Deathwing's actions.

How ?

Bear in mind validating != justifying. That said, Deathwing's pretty pissed off; he's been hiding for years in pain and humiliation, suffering the ignominy of having lesser races care for his wounds (well, as the cinematic suggests, sealing them up with frigging metal plates). He was once Neltharion, granted dominion over Azeroth. The world is rightfully his. Yes, there was all that torrid business with the Dragon/Demon soul and Old God manipulation that's so tiresome and convoluted I've never really been able to piece it all together; but essentially what I'm getting at is Deathwing has a reason to fuck everything up. Arthas as the Lich King was essentially undead Hitler/Pol Pot/genocidal fucknut of your choice; Illidan is a whinging, emo dickbag. Deathwing just wants everyone off his goddamn lawn.

[K9]

Deathwing came off as pretty emo in that cinematic tbfh.

[dd0029]

Beautiful cinematic as always, this time they've managed to capture a little of why and how Cataclysm has come to pass, validating Deathwing's actions. Not to mention a showcase of his literally earth-shattering power.

I will agree that this one looked really, really good and it was much cooler than the WotLK cinematic which I thought was rather underwhelming compared to the BC cinematic even though the lore was much bigger.

However, I'm not buying the why part.  I was wondering what was going on and why deathwing came up out of the ground to get all rowdy.  It kind of looked like a standard movie trope torture thing gone wrong.  But I don't think that's the case.  For that matter, what was he doing under ground?  Is he some sort of anime dude that needs to have a Grrr!! So ANGRY power up moment before he can do his thing?  So, is there somewhere I can go read about why Deathwing decided now was the time?

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That said, Deathwing's pretty pissed off; he's been hiding for years in pain and humiliation, suffering the ignominy of having lesser races care for his wounds (well, as the cinematic suggests, sealing them up with frigging metal plates).

Perusing the wiki there may be some sort of time-lapse there; it seems to be the part where he's sealed into goblin-crafted armour just so he doesn't blow apart at seams from all delusions of grandeur and the power he stole.

He was once Neltharion, granted dominion over Azeroth. The world is rightfully his. Yes, there was all that torrid business with the Dragon/Demon soul and Old God manipulation that's so tiresome and convoluted I've never really been able to piece it all together; but essentially what I'm getting at is Deathwing has a reason to fuck everything up. Arthas as the Lich King was essentially undead Hitler/Pol Pot/genocidal fucknut of your choice; Illidan is a whinging, emo dickbag. Deathwing just wants everyone off his goddamn lawn.

tl;dr version: guy is given control over lands while other guys are given control over other stuff, guy goes too big in the head from getting too many mental blow jobs from some other guys, guy thinks everyone should bow down to him and he's all that and after they don't he just want them all dead. He's genocidal fucknut of choice just like the rest. And yeah, the whole "pain, misery" whining just sounds like he ran out of eyeliner.

[Paelos]

I was wondering what was going on and why deathwing came up out of the ground to get all rowdy.

Because we ran out of content.

[Soulflame]

Plus a wizard (in this case, an Old God) did it.

[Sheepherder]

Perusing the wiki there may be some sort of time-lapse there; it seems to be the part where he's sealed into goblin-crafted armour just so he doesn't blow apart at seams from all delusions of grandeur and the power he stole.

No.  He got his shit wrecked by the other dragons and needed to stop in the elemental plane for repairs.

[Paelos]

Pimp my Dragon. He's got some new ground effects, some 20" spinners, and a Playstation 3 in the back.

[Lantyssa]

He saw the Hunter Tier 11 armor and decided this shit ends now.

[AutomaticZen]

At least it's not the Paladin Tier 11, which I'm calling the 'Stone Peacock'.  I daresay it's worse than Crystalforge.  Which is a feat.

[Chimpy]

He saw the Hunter Tier 11 armor and decided this shit ends now.

More like "looks like time for a tasty seafood snack!"

[Ingmar]

Regarding trolls and gnomes in cinematics, there's a brief shot of a troll riding a raptor in the TBC trailer, and the mage that turns someone into a sheep might be a gnome, it isn't really clear. I've always figured the intent was he was supposed to be a gnome. It isn't the human from the first cinematic, the hair is all wrong.

[Ratman_tf]

He saw the Hunter Tier 11 armor and decided this shit ends now.

  I loled.

[Simond]

And yeah, the whole "pain, misery" whining just sounds like he ran out of eyeliner.

Or, you know, having white-hot armour plate nailed into your body with battering rams to prevent you from exploding into a fire-lava-gutsball might just hurt.
A little.

[Bzalthek]

Well, the Shade of the Horseman is an annoying little git.

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Or, you know, having white-hot armour plate nailed into your body with battering rams to prevent you from exploding into a fire-lava-gutsball might just hurt.
A little.

He doesn't exactly sound like being in pain, that's what screaming is for. What he does comes across more like self-indulgent navel gazing.

Besides, what's a little pain for the supposed owner of all Azeroth? If that gets him to whine, must suck whenever he's got hiccups and keeps shooting that molten lava all way out through the nostrils.

[WindupAtheist]

"Please care. Please. You've been speculating about killing Arthas since this game was just a rumor on the internet, and now you have. Please remain interested. Look how big and scary this guy is, rawr!"

[Morfiend]

I don't get all the hate. I think its a decent concept, especially when you put it up next to Space Goats and magical flying music notes.

"Please care. Please. You've been speculating about killing Arthas since this game was just a rumor on the internet, and now you have. Please remain interested. Look how big and scary this guy is, rawr!"

Meh, I bet 60%+ of the people playing had no idea who Arthas even was before Wrath came out. Again, big pissed off dragon or space goats.

[Rasix]

Like all expansions, I will never fight the guy on the box.  I'm OK with this.  So, I really don't care that much about him/it. 

I'm with Morf, this is a lot more appealing lore wise than TBC.  But, as not explicitly stated above, I'm not much of a lore guy.  At least Cat gives them a mechanism for the zones being cohesive design wise.

[Lakov_Sanite]

I never played warcraft, I knew arthas 'existed' but i never got why some people had nerdgasms over him...or illidan for that matter. I get it, these are characters you know.  Granted I liked having the lich king as a bad guy, I felt like I knew why I was fighting him a lot moreso than some emo elf/demon dude in outland.

As for deathwing? I really dont think deathwing is the draw of this expansion at all.  Raiders will raid no matter what the mob looks like as long as it drops purples and the lore/rp nerds are sated with all the storylines changing/updating. For most though this expansion is all about "look, new stuff and stuff you remember is different."

This expansion isn't a shameless grab to stay relevant with the end game, it's about getting people to level 1-60 all over again and keep them paying long after they did everything pre-cat.

[Simond]

"Please care. Please. You've been speculating about killing Arthas since this game was just a rumor on the internet, and now you have. Please remain interested. Look how big and scary this guy is, rawr!"

Of course, those of us whose first Warcraft game wasn't WC3 know exactly who Deathwing is.

Also: Workaround for the gear/cog crash bug - http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=27300876552

Hey Guys,

There's tons of threads posted and lots of promising solutions. I have one that I've been testing for three days and have not had as much as lag spike when mousing over cogs. This works if you're willing to disable tooltips when you are anywhere a cog icon might show up.

You will need to create two macros, for "turn off tooltips" and "turn on tooltips".

Turn Off Tooltips

/script GameTooltip.Temphide = function() GameTooltip:Hide() end;  GameTooltip:SetScript("OnShow", GameTooltip.Temphide);


Turn On Tooltips

/script GameTooltip:SetScript("OnShow", GameTooltip.Show);



This should get you through until the official fix comes down from Blizzard. Happy hunting!

E: Oh hey, when did we get that emote?

[Ingmar]

Of course, those of us whose first Warcraft game wasn't WC3 know exactly who Deathwing is.

A silly-named hero unit from the underplayed Warcraft 2 expansion that ultimately has very little to do with the lore around Deathwing as it is constituted today?

[Lantyssa]

S'okay.  His lore will have changed by next expansion anyways.

[Sjofn]

Deathwing himself is a giant yawn for me (and I'm in the camp where he sounded like he was reciting his terrible high school goth poetry, although I put that in Metzen's lap entirely), but so was Illidan and Arthas. Because let's face it, none of them are Great Villains for the Ages. Everything else in these expansions are why I get excited for them, and that's why I am totally excited about the world exploding.

[Ratman_tf]

Deathwing himself is a giant yawn for me (and I'm in the camp where he sounded like he was reciting his terrible high school goth poetry, although I put that in Metzen's lap entirely), but so was Illidan and Arthas. Because let's face it, none of them are Great Villains for the Ages. Everything else in these expansions are why I get excited for them, and that's why I am totally excited about the world exploding.

I was most looking forward to seeing Queen Azshara, but after the loretasticness of WoW, I don't wanna no more.

[Nevermore]

Am I the only one who thought Deathwing sounded kind of like Baron Ünderbheit?

[Lantyssa]

That's who I thought of before Darth Malak or the He-Man guy.  Well, some hideous merger of Ünderbheit, Jay Leno, and an undead dragon.

[Azazel]

"Please care. Please. You've been speculating about killing Arthas since this game was just a rumor on the internet, and now you have. Please remain interested. Look how big and scary this guy is, rawr!"

Of course, those of us whose first Warcraft game wasn't WC3 know exactly who Deathwing is.

We do?

WC2 (and the Dark Portal(?) expansion) were my introduction to Warcraft, about a million years ago, but I'm fucked if I can remember any of the characters, including Deathwing. 

[Sheepherder]

I never played warcraft, I knew arthas 'existed' but i never got why some people had nerdgasms over him...or illidan for that matter. I get it, these are characters you know.  Granted I liked having the lich king as a bad guy, I felt like I knew why I was fighting him a lot moreso than some emo elf/demon dude in outland.

Tragic antiheroes are popular.

That's who I thought of before Darth Malak or the He-Man guy.  Well, some hideous merger of Ünderbheit, Jay Leno, and an undead dragon.

He's not undead.

[Sjofn]

Am I the only one who thought Deathwing sounded kind of like Baron Ünderbheit?

I merely think he looks like him. He sounds like Thrall with a cold.

[Simond]

Something to bear in mind: Deathwing isn't voiced by Metzen.

[Ironwood]

I only killed Illidan last week.  I eagerly await taking on Deathwing on my 60th birthday.