Cataclysm

[Ingmar]

I'm honestly confused as to what exactly is coming and if I should even bother logging in before the expansion is in my hands.

There are some pre-expansion world event things to do, quests, some minibosses, etc. (I should say, there will be, they aren't live yet. Possibly Tuesday.)

[Paelos]

I'm honestly confused as to what exactly is coming and if I should even bother logging in before the expansion is in my hands.

There are some pre-expansion world event things to do, quests, some minibosses, etc. (I should say, there will be, they aren't live yet. Possibly Tuesday.)

This sounds like other people will bother me to do shit I may not want to do. Hmmm. 

[Chimpy]

Are they doing the 30% raid boss HP reduction this expansion as well? Or have enough of the population finished the raids that they don't deem it necessary?

[Ingmar]

I don't think they're doing that, no. The 30% buff in ICC sort of serves the same purpose.

[Mattemeo]

THIS CAMEL.

Your wives.

I think you understand the deal, gentlemen.

[Merusk]

Latest patch apparently has broken all Auction addons.  Users are now required to click for every acution they post, so no more mass-posting via auction addons.  I'm of two minds on this change.  I don't normally post tons of crap, but it was nice to be able to list 20-30 auctions without clicking every time.  I can only imagine those of you who talk about keeping 1-200 posted at a time are going to be livid.

[Rendakor]

FFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU-

Was that a deliberate change?

[Chimpy]

Probably considering that Blizzard has consistently cut out ways of automating in game processes that ostensibly require user input through scripting as much as possible in the past.

[Mattemeo]

Can't say I'll miss having to wade through 66 pages of single piece items to find any goddamn stacks thanks to whichever asshole-du-jour thinks they can control the market by swamping it.

[Merusk]

FFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU-

Was that a deliberate change?

From what I've read, yes. The Add Auction() and Cancel Auction() functions were changed to require hardware input, aka a mouseclick or Keyboard Macro.  The addons can't do it themselves anymore.

http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/768666-Auction-Addons-BROKEN-in-4.0.1

The posters there seem to blame one particular addon; "Quick Auctions Poster."  From what the addon description says I can't blame Blizzard.  That's a bot. Auto-scanning the Ah and posting/ purchasing without interaction.

[Ingmar]

This doesn't break Auctioneer for the way I use it personally I don't think - hopefully anyway. I tend to use the post page rather than the automatic stuff.

[Lakov_Sanite]

Can't say I'll miss having to wade through 66 pages of single piece items to find any goddamn stacks thanks to whichever asshole-du-jour thinks they can control the market by swamping it.

This needs bold,italic and font size.

[Fordel]

Is the default Blizzard "put up 5 stacks of 5 potions each" thing still in and working?

[Merusk]

The default UI is still working, I believe.  As is auctioneer according to the thread I linked earlier.  This was meant to break the "open AH window and auto-create auctions" mods.

[Sjofn]

Can't say I'll miss having to wade through 66 pages of single piece items to find any goddamn stacks thanks to whichever asshole-du-jour thinks they can control the market by swamping it.

Jesus Christ, tell me about it.

[Rendakor]

It's still going to be possible to list a ton of stacks-of-one, since you can do that with the default Blizzard UI with 1 click. I don't see how you guys expect that to stop.

[Malakili]

Can't say I'll miss having to wade through 66 pages of single piece items to find any goddamn stacks thanks to whichever asshole-du-jour thinks they can control the market by swamping it.

Jesus Christ, tell me about it.

You can use auctioneer to sort by stacksize just as easily as you can use it to create single item auctions.  Then again, if you don't like using addons for some reason, yeah, thats annnoying.

[Sjofn]

I don't really expect it to stop, I just wanted to agree it's fucking annoying.

I like to keep my add-ons to a minimum, so I don't use an AH add-on at all, because I can't be bothered to play that minigame to start with.

[Ragnoros]

As a legit non market spamming Jewelcrafter I can tell you right now that the community may have lost a service/convenience if auction mods are broken.

Using two mods my brother turned me onto I was able to scan the AH, find what cut gems were going for and which were actually posted, select gems to cut, automatically assign appropriate prices, and post dozens of cut gems all with a few clicks and 5-10 minutes time. Yes it was essentially a license to print money, but if I would have needed to spend 30 minutes sorting through the dozens of cuts, making lists of which gems to cut, and then posting them all one at a time. Well, players would not have a great deal of low volume cut gems on the AH.

[Typhon]

I wish they would add a craigs-list like function so you could place an order in addition to placing items.  Have the order attempt to auto-match against items already posted, filling preferentially from the oldest item posted that matched (or beat) the order-price.

but I'm sure that has been requested/discussed frequently both here and other places.

[K9]

Buy and Sell orders have been something people have wanted for years.

[Paelos]

Buy and Sell orders have been something people have wanted for years.

Put that in the "never going to happen" file along with an appearence tab. I see the small benefit it could have, but it's not like you can't use the Auction House as is to its full and ridiculous potential already. I just don't think Blizzard would see it as a value-added thing to make it work they way they want.

[proudft]

Buy/sell would help so much with all the AH tomfoolery, though.  Plus it's thematic with goblins!  Now would be the perfect time!   

[Simond]

Yeeeessssssssssss



 

[Chimpy]

Heh...I wonder if he will face-stomp entire raids of alliance like he used to?

[Azazel]

Just doing some browsing on WoWwiki, I spotted this n the PTR for Patch 4.0.3 (Cataclysm Live)

Creature damage output has been increased from roughly level 65 and up. These increases scale upward with level. Creatures in exterior zones at level 80 now have 2.5 times the damage output they did previously in beta, 3.2 times at level 81, and 4 times at level 82 and up. To leave feedback about how this change feels with regard to creature spawns in level 80-85 exterior zones, visit our forums here

What. The. Fuck?

They're nerfing players vs half of BC and all of WotLK? (Especially zones like Icecrown?) Please someone tell me I'm misunderstanding this?

[Selby]

What. The. Fuck?

Am I reading that correctly?  Are they really making mobs hit you harder for more damage as you increase in level?

[Azazel]

Well, not only that, but they're bumping it as far back as level 65 accoridng to that patch note.
http://www.wowwiki.com/Patch_4.0.3

Which will mean that all the BC stuff that was balanced around the existing itemisation from 65+ will start to, along with all of WotLK.

And, you know. 2.5x dps at 80 is just messed up. Icecrown will me a mess for any levelling players.

[Hawkbit]

People won't get to Icecrown.  As it stands, my third toon through wotlk did 70-80 by doing Borean, Howling, Dragonblight and he dinged 80 about 10 quests into Grizzly.  Add in the random dungeons, and people will be 80 after maybe two zones.  Not to mention that you can likely muddle your way into Cat zones at 78-79. 

[kildorn]

There will probably be some odd mobs out on that, but remembering my last level to 80 experience: TBC and Northrend outdoor mobs hit for crap currently unless you're there early and ungeared.

Wearing TBC quest greens at 68 in Northrend? Ow, for two levels. Wearing Northrend greens in northrend? Clothtank!

That said, I kind of LIKE that leveling isn't a royal pain in the ass where I need to concentrate for every one of my kill 40 ghouls.

[Sheepherder]

Armor and stamina buffs to gear apply to all gear.

http://www.wowhead.com/item=24481
http://cata.wowhead.com/item=24481

[Lt.Dan]

After doing some testing in beta on my undergeared bear tank (average ilevel about 220) mob damage and health might not be such an issue. 

It takes a bit longer to kill things (level 80 Hyjal mobs have about 30k health) but my health never really dropped and I finished fights at full health, even against level 80 elites.  At one point I got jumped by 6 level 80 mobs and still didn't have to burn cooldowns.  I'm pretty sure things change at higher levels though.  While flying/exploring I got nuked by a level 82 caster for about 10k.  It's also possible they made level differences have more of an impact on damage done/taken - something I noticed while levelling a noob warrior and seeing mobs +2 levels higher hit harder and take less damage.

That said, I saw a level 80 warlock struggling with one mob so YMMV.

[Azazel]

iLevel 220 isn't exactly undergeared for a new character levelling up through the content, though. Not exactly an uber LK heroic tank, but better than the average leveller will be.

That's almost triumph purples all round, and beyond the average L200 blues that people end up with if they're lucky in a couple of instances/quest blues. New people levelling up will be in the usual mix of blues and greens with an occasional purple speckled through - and then the new green Cata quest rewards/drops.

[kildorn]

After doing some testing in beta on my undergeared bear tank (average ilevel about 220) mob damage and health might not be such an issue. 

It takes a bit longer to kill things (level 80 Hyjal mobs have about 30k health) but my health never really dropped and I finished fights at full health, even against level 80 elites.  At one point I got jumped by 6 level 80 mobs and still didn't have to burn cooldowns.  I'm pretty sure things change at higher levels though.  While flying/exploring I got nuked by a level 82 caster for about 10k.  It's also possible they made level differences have more of an impact on damage done/taken - something I noticed while levelling a noob warrior and seeing mobs +2 levels higher hit harder and take less damage.

That said, I saw a level 80 warlock struggling with one mob so YMMV.

What lock spec. Right now in Wrath, an 80 destro lock with okay gear pretty much threeshots anything in seconds (immo, conflag, chaos bolt, next. I'm limited more on which cooldown skill to burn per mob to keep the chain going), so I can see higher HP pools meaning things actually GET to the lock now.

[dd0029]

iLevel 220 isn't exactly undergeared for a new character levelling up through the content, though. Not exactly an uber LK heroic tank, but better than the average leveller will be.

That's almost triumph purples all round, and beyond the average L200 blues that people end up with if they're lucky in a couple of instances/quest blues. New people levelling up will be in the usual mix of blues and greens with an occasional purple speckled through - and then the new green Cata quest rewards/drops.

I am working a mage up and should hit 80 about the time Cataclysm hits.  I will be interested to see how a quested character will make the transition.  Particularly as most of my quested/dungeon gear will be Borean/Dragonblight stuff.  Going into Hyjal with a 12-15k hp caster is going to be "sweet."