Cataclysm

[Ingmar]

Staghelm = awesome. By all rights he should be the Alliance's Saurfang.

Your Saurfang would be Tirion.  Fucker cleansed the Ashbringer by touch. 

Staghelm is a dick and possibly a druggie.  The non-dick Night Elf leader would be Tyrande.  I'm not counting Malfurion because he's a damn super hippy that can't be bothered to rock it with his woman.

Tyrande let out Illidan. She's the worst of all.

[Simond]

Staghelm is a 'dick' because he cannot comprehend why Tyrande & the players are worrying about penny ante shit when there's at least one Old God waking up out there...and he knows what happens then.

[AutomaticZen]

Tyrande let out Illidan. She's the worst of all.

Lost cause then.  Burn Darnassus to the ground.

Staghelm is a 'dick' because he cannot comprehend why Tyrande & the players are worrying about penny ante shit when there's at least one Old God waking up out there...and he knows what happens then.

Nah.  He's just a dick.

At that's going to happen when the Old Gods wake up is we'll spank them like we did with C'thun and Yogg. 

Staghelm is among the most ancient of the remaining night elves, having been born about a thousand years after the Sundering (making him over 9,000 years old). Fandral towers most other night elves, standing close to 8 feet in height. He uses this height to his advantage both in battle and conversation, seeking to intimidate all those around him with his massive stature. Staghelm follows many of the beliefs of the ancient night elves, and one in particular has made him unpopular — Fandral is a staunch night elf supremacist, and he believes that night elves are the only true druids, as well as the superior race on the planet.

Then of course, he built his new World Tree... corrupted piece of crap.

If Night Elves are the superior race, why is their blood all over my hammer?  

[Lantyssa]

The morrowgrain isn't for Staghelm.

[Sjofn]

Staghelm is a 'dick' because he cannot comprehend why Tyrande & the players are worrying about penny ante shit when there's at least one Old God waking up out there...and he knows what happens then.

Preach it!

[Paelos]

Night Elves, Blood Elves, and any other elves that crawl out of the woodwork should be lined up and summarily shot. Also, anybody who plays a female worgen in the next expansion.

[Lantyssa]

Should I let you shoot me now, or will you give me a running start?

[Lakov_Sanite]

Should I let you shoot me now, or will you give me a running start?

There is a chance you will jump, you cannot allow elves to jump.

[Lantyssa]

I only have an elf because I'm a Druid.  (I'm very happy about Trolls getting it.)  I was refering to the Worgen line.

[Sjofn]

I have elves, and I refuse to let people with this weird hard-on to hate elves shame me for it! (This also goes for people who hate gnomes.)

[Tannhauser]

I'm thinking worgen druid and goblin rogue for release.

[Ratman_tf]

I have elves, and I refuse to let people with this weird hard-on to hate elves shame me for it! (This also goes for people who hate gnomes.)

How meta.

[Simond]

Night Elves, Blood Elves, and any other elves that crawl out of the woodwork should be lined up and summarily shot. Also, anybody who plays a female worgen in the next expansion.

Ah, but will we need silver bullets to do so?

[Nevermore]

Night Elves, Blood Elves, and any other elves that crawl out of the woodwork should be lined up and summarily shot. Also, anybody who plays a female worgen in the next expansion.

You can kiss my furry elf ass.   

[Lantyssa]

Pear Bear Glare!

[Righ]

Staghelm is a 'dick' because he cannot comprehend why Tyrande & the players are worrying about penny ante shit when there's at least one Old God waking up out there...and he knows what happens then.

More assine content cockblocks courtesy of Tigole?

[Musashi]

No we have to get to wait for the next MMO for that.

[WindupAtheist]

Upon reflection I'm waiting for more info to come out and dispel the sense of dread I have. I'm worried that their means of "fixing" battlegrounds will be to turn them into 15-man arena teams that nobody does, and I don't really want to be a fucking archaeologist.

[Fabricated]

Staghelm is a 'dick' because he cannot comprehend why Tyrande & the players are worrying about penny ante shit when there's at least one Old God waking up out there...and he knows what happens then.

Uh we sorta killed both C'Thun and Yogg. Shit, the primary factions that noticed "oh shit, Yogg is busting out of Ulduar" were part of the Alliance and they moved on it despite having way, WAY more reason to hate Arthas.

[SurfD]

Staghelm is a 'dick' because he cannot comprehend why Tyrande & the players are worrying about penny ante shit when there's at least one Old God waking up out there...and he knows what happens then.

Uh we sorta killed both C'Thun and Yogg. Shit, the primary factions that noticed "oh shit, Yogg is busting out of Ulduar" were part of the Alliance and they moved on it despite having way, WAY more reason to hate Arthas.

Actually, Im pretty sure that both C'thun and Yogg are very much NOT dead, and probably barely even wounded.   Everything we know about the Old Gods puts them as some kind of ultra level parasitic infection.   Im not really sure about Yogg, but i am willing to bet that for C'thun, all we did was whack one of his appendages, and once he recovers sufficiently, he will be back making efforts to kill us all again.

Hell, my theory is that the "Old Gods" are actually just "limbs" of one bigass parasitic organism with a severe case of Multiple Personality Disorder, and at the best, will only ever be contained or beat back for periods of time, and never actually destroyed.

[Malakili]

I don't really want to be a fucking archaeologist.

Yeah, this is really concerning to me.  Lets add a secondary profession that EVERYONE must take to keep progressing...ehhhh pass.

[Ingmar]

I seem to recall that if you don't archaeologize yourself, you can still get the ancient glyphs from other people. Or at least there was talk that it might work like that at Blizzcon, they pretty clearly haven't finalized exactly how it is all going to work.

[Soulflame]

I thought I saw mention that C'Thun would be back at some point.  I'm also skeptical that 10/25 mortals could accomplish what the titans themselves could not, or at the very least, would not, i.e. kill Yogg Saron.

Although the lolore doesn't appear to be static, the basic understanding I have is that the Titans were not actually able to kill the Old Gods, as they were now intrinsic to the planet itself.  This of course begs the question as to why they didn't simply reoriginate the planet, and then whomp the Old Gods.

Also, I'd wager at some point it'll turn out that Sargeras was corrupted by the Old Gods.

[Hawkbit]

I hope not; that would be some serious retconning (not that Blizzard has an issue with it).  Sargeras was driven to despair by his battling the Nathrezim (dreadlords) and chose to 'go bad'.  At least from what I remember from lore.

[Ingmar]

I hope not; that would be some serious retconning (not that Blizzard has an issue with it).  Sargeras was driven to despair by his battling the Nathrezim (dreadlords) and chose to 'go bad'.  At least from what I remember from lore.

That was already retconned when they introduced the draenei, mostly because Metzen forgot and rewrote it as Sargeras corrupting the draenei/eredar rather than vice versa.

[LK]

The WoW lore would feel right at home with traditional American storytelling (i.e. comics).

[Lakov_Sanite]

I thought I saw mention that C'Thun would be back at some point.  I'm also skeptical that 10/25 mortals could accomplish what the titans themselves could not, or at the very least, would not, i.e. kill Yogg Saron.

Although the lolore doesn't appear to be static, the basic understanding I have is that the Titans were not actually able to kill the Old Gods, as they were now intrinsic to the planet itself.  This of course begs the question as to why they didn't simply reoriginate the planet, and then whomp the Old Gods.

Also, I'd wager at some point it'll turn out that Sargeras was corrupted by the Old Gods.

Yogg only makes sense when you consider you are being aided by the four watchers of ulduar. Essentially storywise I felt that what you 25 people did was free them of their madness and it was their power that ultimately helped kill/banish yogg.

Though I'm also in the parasitic old god category, I don't think they're truly killable in the basic sense.

[Lantyssa]

Someone on Garrosh got a world first 25-man kill Yogg without Watchers yesterday.  Is that impressive?

[Ingmar]

Someone on Garrosh got a world first 25-man kill Yogg without Watchers yesterday.  Is that impressive?

It was probably server-first, mmo-champ was reporting world firsts for that a while back.

Still, it is indeed impressive, a pretty small number of guilds have actually done it. We might do it around level 90 or so. 

[Sjofn]

I hope not; that would be some serious retconning (not that Blizzard has an issue with it).  Sargeras was driven to despair by his battling the Nathrezim (dreadlords) and chose to 'go bad'.  At least from what I remember from lore.

That was already retconned when they introduced the draenei, mostly because Metzen forgot and rewrote it as Sargeras corrupting the draenei/eredar rather than vice versa.

That still pisses me off. Lazy asshole. ><

[Lantyssa]

It was probably server-first, mmo-champ was reporting world firsts for that a while back.

Yes, server first.  It's not something I follow, and have certainly never seen before, so I didn't remember the exact terminology.

[Vash]

Someone on Garrosh got a world first 25-man kill Yogg without Watchers yesterday.  Is that impressive?

It was probably server-first, mmo-champ was reporting world firsts for that a while back.

Still, it is indeed impressive, a pretty small number of guilds have actually done it. We might do it around level 90 or so. 

It's a good thing they got it in when they did with 3.2.2 dropping today if reports are accurate.  It pretty much requires 2 rogues with throwing specialization to spam FoK in an alternating pattern in order to keep all the adds in Phase 3 locked down (because they can't be killed w/o Hodir, just stay at 1hp).  Otherwise the raid would get wiped hard by all the shadowbolt volley spam from them.   Well 3.2.2 is removing the interupt from FoK in throwing specialization and I believe there was a blue post about how they would likely have to change the hardmode/encounter in some major way because of the nerf.

Now they can claim to be truly hardcore and not a 2nd rate guild that only killed Yogg hardmode after the big nerf/change.   

[WindupAtheist]

More lore lolz.

Apparently Warchief Garrosh decides that all Horde races besides orcs and tauren are fags, and kicks them out of the better parts of Orgrimmar. Since that would mean Vol'jin has to leave, and the gnomes are supposedly going to get Gnomeregan back, it seems like there's a chance the trolls will get their own city. Also, Southshore doesn't get conquered, it just sorta falls into the sea with the cataclysm.

[Simond]

You think the minor details of it being a) ruins and b) underwater will stop the Forsaken from claiming it? 

[AutomaticZen]

More lore lolz.

Apparently Warchief Garrosh decides that all Horde races besides orcs and tauren are fags, and kicks them out of the better parts of Orgrimmar. Since that would mean Vol'jin has to leave, and the gnomes are supposedly going to get Gnomeregan back, it seems like there's a chance the trolls will get their own city. Also, Southshore doesn't get conquered, it just sorta falls into the sea with the cataclysm.

They say Stranglethorn is getting the most big changes.  My bet is the trolls end up there.