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July 17, 2025, 09:55:57 AM

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If you get walloped by a then unranked 6-3 team the way USC did, you don't belong in the top 25. Yet, there they are ranked no. 18.

I wonder if Colin Cowherd broke a leg falling off the USC bandwagon after this weekend...

Stanford is playing really, really well right now. I'd like their chances against anyone.

Of course, being in the Pac 10, they'll lose to Cal next game.

Quote from: SnakeCharmer on November 17, 2009, 02:50:46 PM

Stanford became ranked when they beat Oregon.

Quote from: Trippy on November 17, 2009, 03:16:21 PM

Quote from: SnakeCharmer on November 17, 2009, 02:50:46 PM

Stanford became ranked when they beat Oregon.

WTF was I looking at then...Maybe Cal. I dunno.

STILL.

Point being, USC shouldn't even be ranked right now, much less 18.

Eh, USC is a good team, as much as it pains me to defend them. #18 is probably about right.

Quote from: Trippy on November 17, 2009, 03:16:38 PM

Quote from: Ingmar on November 17, 2009, 02:58:43 PM

oh god I hope so

Weenie!

It's going to be so cold at Big Game - I sort of miss the good old days when we both sucked so the games would start at 12:30. Ohhhhh, I see.

Someone please beat Cin as this is getting ridiculous. I may have to root for them to get this to stop.

Quote from: Merusk on November 17, 2009, 04:15:41 PM

Someone please beat Cin as this is getting ridiculous. I may have to root for them to get this to stop.

@ Pitt soon enough.

My upset radar is going haywire thinking about Saturday's OSU/UM matchup in Ann Arbor. Michigan is playing for bowl eligibility and some shred of respect. OSU has already locked up the Rose Bowl, and are probably reading the "Another ho-hum blowout of imploding UM" headlines everywhere. All the classic upset factors are there.

Prediction- Pryor half-asses it and throws two or three picks, and Michigan gives its best effort of the season in a field goal extravaganza. Michigan 16, OSU 10.

Quote from: Triforcer on November 19, 2009, 02:10:12 AM

If Michigan was still Michigan and was just young and didn't have extensive personnel problems I'd agree, but I don't see any way they win that game. Brandon Minor is officially out, and their offense simply doesn't function well when he isn't there. Other than Brandon Graham and Mike Martin on the line, that defense is just flat out horrible. Their starting free safety is a freshman walk-on who made the team in a tryout. Their starting middle linebacker was benched for two games in favor of another walk-on.

A Michigan win would be a bigger upset than the '69 game IMO given the talent disparity.

Les Miles just screwed his team over again because he doesn't understand time management. Hang that ENTIRELY on the coaching staff.

Quote from: Paelos on November 21, 2009, 04:13:53 PM

Les Miles just screwed his team over again because he doesn't understand time management. Hang that ENTIRELY on the coaching staff.

Agreed. But I give credit to Snead... holy shit he looked damn good today.

And it wasn't even THAT cold. awesome, for real

So the second-worst team in the Big 10 (sorry Michigan) puts up 476 yards of offense and 36 points on the supposed #5 team in the country, and yet it's being spun by ESPN that Cincinnati is this fucking juggernaut. What a joke.

Whoever draws Cincinnati in the BCS ought to put a little bit extra in the collection plate that Sunday.

They will stick TCU in that game with Cincinnati/Pitt and TCU will annihilate them.

Snake is seven or eight sheets to the wind right now. Cmdr Slack might have had a coronary. I think my Futbol indoctrination saved me from the massive squeeky bum time that was all of this years Iron Bowl.

The Big East is a joke. Whoever plays Cincinnati will bulldoze them like a watermelon.

Quote from: ghost on November 27, 2009, 08:10:15 PM

The Big East is a joke. Whoever plays Cincinnati will bulldoze them like a watermelon.

They really did look awful against an Ilini team that is awful and had nothing at all to play for.

The ND AD's daughter is hot. More Irish controversy please.

I'll take a bad win any day given the horrible losses we (Arizona) had this year. A shoe tip and Jermiah Fucking Massoli away from 9-2.

ASU fans suck, so I don't feel bad for them in the slightest.

So, I'm guessing we'll play another Utah based team in a bowl game regardless of the USC outcome. Woo hoo.

Quote from: sigil on November 27, 2009, 07:45:57 PM

Snake is seven or eight sheets to the wind right now.

Holy frick on a stick, was I ever. What happened in that game is about what I expected, but my ass was so puckered up a greased BB wouldn't have squeezed through it.

Bring on Florida in the National Championship game Oh ho ho ho. Reallllly?

I is a very sad panda.

The SEC delivered the ACC an all around ass whooping this weekend.

It's going to be a loong week waiting for the Florida vs Alabama game next weekend.

Yes the SEC refs did all they could to make sure we had a 'bama/Gators matchup.

Quote from: Tannhauser on November 29, 2009, 01:39:00 PM

Yes the SEC refs did all they could to make sure we had a 'bama/Gators matchup.

Maybe in earlier games, but the refs had nothing to do with the outcome of either game this Saturday. Auburn completely self-destructing and coughing up two AWFUL turnovers made all the difference.

EDIT: Also, HAHAHAHAHA at the ACC, Clemson, and Georgia Tech. You triple option bastards thought you had it soooooooo easy against a weak SEC opponent, and you never led the entire game. Also, Clemson got dickstomped by a supremely average South Carolina team.

Have fun in your "Championship" game after losing to a couple of 7-5 SEC teams. The Orange bowl is going to be a fucking joke yet again this year.

Quote from: Tannhauser on November 29, 2009, 01:39:00 PM

Yes the SEC refs did all they could to make sure we had a 'bama/Gators matchup.

I'm not defending the few bad calls that were made, but yeah...

Too early to breakdown UF vs Bama?

Nah.

To me, it's a fantastic matchup. It's strength against strength. You've got the premiere defensive mind (Saban) vs the premiere offensive mind (Meyer). The best offensive playmaker (Tebow) vs the best defensive player (McClain). Both teams excel at special teams. Bama has the edge on punt/kickoff returns with Arenas, but loses some points in weakness on the kick coverage (prone to getting out of their lanes and giving up huge returns). Bama has a clutch kicker, and above average punter, so in the end, I figure special teams are a break even point for both teams. Bama losing Hightower in the second or third game of the season is really going to hurt them in this game, though, since he could do everything. Without him, they have to rotate players in at his position depending on the situation. That gives away what their intent on defense is for that particular play. Cody won't be a factor in this game because the scheme Bama will run against the spread offense, which is just so frakin' hard to defend against. Bama's greatest strength (speed, pursuit) is also it's biggest liability (misdirection by the spread), and this was exploited a bit in the Auburn game. To be fair to Bama, the first touch down Auburn scored was a result of busted coverage, as was the third one. The second touchdown Auburn scored was earned. But Bama settled down after the first 7 minutes, and effectively shut Auburn's offense out (with the exception of the busted coverage on the 3rd touchdown). Auburn has a pretty good offense, and has racked up a bunch of points and yards on everyone else.

The weakness is the Bama offense that went back into hibernation for all but about 10 minutes of the Auburn game. I'm still wracking my brain at the playcalling of Bama's offensive coordinator who insisted on calling middle and middle left runs when time and time again it didn't work. Bama's bread and butter has been what I call 22 Slide Right or 3 Slide Right - the RB takes the handoff, starts up the guard slot, then slides around the right tackle/tight end to space. I don't recall them calling that but a couple times and it was successful when they ran it. It's what they've done all year long with 22 or 3. And because AU was starting a frosh LB at the left side, they thought they could exploit it - and they couldn't. But they kept calling it over and over. The fuck you thinking, OC?

That Bama offensive weakness goes against a spectacular UF defense. Plus, Tebow has been there, done that for the last 4 years. Bama's QB, McElroy, is a first year starter playing in his first SEC championship. Factor in Tebow's experience in big games, his receivers, and his multitude of X factors, I think it's just a bit too much for Bama. McElroy did show some serious chutzpah in the game winning drive against Auburn (hostile environment, 80 yards to win and goes 7 of 8), but one drive doesn't a big time big stage QB make.

Early line, if I remember right is 5 1/2. I honestly think it's bigger than that. I wouldn't be surprised to see the line move to 8 by gametime on Saturday since I expect people to start laying it heavy on Florida - especially in light of Ingram's injury in the Auburn game. Richardson is a beast, and Upchurch has some wheels as well, but you just can't potentially lose a playmaker like Ingram and not feel it. Maybe it will force Bama's OC to be more creative and use more of the playbook to get more people involved, but if Ingram isn't 100 percent, that's a HUGE blow.

The only way Bama wins (or keeps it close) is to have success running the ball even in the face of an 8 man front - which is something they've been 50/50 on this year. UF is going to have the very best defense Bama has played all year. Bama is going to have to have some key turnovers and calls go their way. They're going to have to have a big game out of Arenas to flip the field in Bama's favor. And McElroy is going to have to play out of his mind.

As much as it pains me to say it, I just don't see UF losing this game. Tebow is not going to suddenly become a bad quarterback; confused by what he sees from Bama's defense and have his arm go south on him. His receivers aren't going to get a case of the drops, and his offensive line just isn't going to forget how to block. On the other side of the ball, Bama's offense really isn't that hard to figure out, so it's not like their defense is going to see things that confuse them.

Early pick?

Tebow gets 2 TD passing, 1 TD running, and TD on kick return/special teams. Two field goals from special teams.
Bama gets a TD from Arenas on a punt return, one TD from Richardson, one TD from Maze. One field goal. Bama has a game changing TD on a punt return called back for a block in the back by Cory Reamer, and UF blocks a field goal.

UF 34, Bama 24

Then UF goes and beats the bajeezus out of Texas on Jan 7th, 2010.

I expect to see alot of this from Saban, and alot of this from Meyer.

I want Bama to win. I just keep waiting for the other shoe to drop with their team.

You can win, you just have to win the short battles on the line and have a healthy running back. You can beat the Florida defense with strong running up the gut off the blocks and some dink and dunk to the middle. Control the clock, win the turnover battle, rely on good defensive play against the pass. Florida has a weakness on D, and it's NOT running outside as many teams have tried.

Fuckity fuck fuck. Carlos Dunlap just got arrested for DUI. That could be quite a blow for the FL vs AL game if he gets suspended. Thankfully we have a lot of depth on defense, but losing a player like that will still be felt. What a fucking idiot.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/football/ncaa/12/01/dunlap.dui/

Well Tebow looked shaky earlier this year and was not his usual self during the LSU game coming off his headringer. Key to Alabama, rattle him - put him on the grass a few times and pressure him early. Or the entire Alabama team could put evil bible verses on their eye tape like REV 2:28 - that might just get in his head a bit.

I like Florida in this one. You stay with the champs until given a concrete reason otherwise. Florida knows how to win these type of games.

Quote from: EWSpider on December 01, 2009, 06:21:14 AM

Won't matter. UF is deep enough that someone else will take his place and they won't miss a beat. I doubt very seriously that Meyer does anything anyway (We're going to wait until all the facts are in place, innocent until proven guilty, yadda yadda yadda).

He'll probably suspend him for the first set of downs.