Blizzard adds furries.

[Typhon]

I just can't get my head around the goblins being a horde/alliance race.  It makes very poor sense from a lore perspective - they are making far too much money being the neutral party between the horde and the alliance. A sub-faction splitting off from the goblin neutrality just seems like it's bad for business.

That said, I'd resub to play a goblin.  Which could be the only point they need - "fuck the lore, we'd like to boost numbers again for a least another year".

[Hindenburg]

There are several goblin factions. One of them could very well join the horde.

But yeah, doubt it's happening.

[Jayce]

I've been reading wow.com/wowinsider for long enough that I have some confidence in their predictions.  The mask was one thing - it could go either way - but there is enough journalistic integrity there, in my estimation (I know, hur hur intarnet journalism), that I'll buy into it.

I guess we'll find out soon, when Blizzcon starts.  Let this thread stand as a monument to fanboish enthusiasm OR the triumph of skepticism.

[Hutch]

You mean there's a whole generation of internet goers who don't instantly get creeped out by the name?  Well hell, that explains the resurgence of other old memes.

I've been on ye olde interwebs since circa 1992, and the name isn't familiar. I try really hard not to click on anything furry-related, so that might explain it. Whoever he is, he doesn't have a Wikipedia entry!

Here is the piece of internet history that connects that name to otherwise furry-free mmo gaming interests. The "story" originally appeared on LtM, or possibly one of its descendents.

[Simond]

I just can't get my head around the goblins being a horde/alliance race.  It makes very poor sense from a lore perspective - they are making far too much money being the neutral party between the horde and the alliance. A sub-faction splitting off from the goblin neutrality just seems like it's bad for business.

That said, I'd resub to play a goblin.  Which could be the only point they need - "fuck the lore, we'd like to boost numbers again for a least another year".

"Hey boss, half our island is underwater and the other half is on fire and crawling with rampaging naga killing everything. Oh, and a messenger from Thrall reminded us that we have a standing offer to join the Horde"

[Lakov_Sanite]

There's a more reasons goblins should join the horde than blood elves had.

[Fordel]

It doesn't even have to be on fire.

<Blah Blah Faction> Signs exclusive contract with Horde, offering it's manpower and expertise for the next 100 years!.

[Sjofn]

Yeah, all they really need to say is the Horde ponied up enough money to one of the princes that THOSE goblins are exclusively working for the Horde. Could also do that for the Alliance, but it won't happen because Blizzard wants me to reroll Horde.

[Lantyssa]

On the plus side, there should be people my level to adventure with.  At least for a week until you all out-level me again.

[Fordel]

On the plus side, there should be people my level to adventure with.  At least for 20 minutes, until you all out-level me again.

 

[Hindenburg]

I'd be quite impressed if, when they add new races (if they actually do that), they don't give you the option to just create a L65-70 of any class.

[Ingmar]

They keep saying that's only going to be for new classes, but I suppose they will change their mind eventually.

[Rasix]

I'm going to cry if they make me do 1-58 again.  At least Outland doesn't feel like torture.

[Lantyssa]

On the plus side, there should be people my level to adventure with.  At least for 20 minutes, until you all out-level me again.

Kild doesn't count.

[Simond]

I'm going to cry if they make me do 1-58 again.  At least Outland doesn't feel like torture.

From someone who may or may not be trolling on the SA forums but does have contacts inside Blizzard: Goblins and Worgen will not need to level from 1. And that is somehow tied into the expansion's core concept in a fundamental way.

(No, I've got no idea either). 

[Fordel]

Goblin experiment causes rift in dimensional fabric of universe, Worgen spill out.

[Hindenburg]

Goblin experiment causes rift in dimensional fabric of universe, Worgen spill out.

Blizz doesn't write lore that good.

[Ingmar]

Worgen spaceship interdimensional craft shot down by goblins?

[Hindenburg]

More likely that Stormwind gets hit with a worgen infection, imo.

[Tannhauser]

Now THAT would be kind of interesting.  Also, I'd like to see Gilneas as a starting zone for both factions. Might be too crowded though. You can use Kul Tiras as a new Alliance base and Tomb of Sargeras as a new raid instance.  You can have a goblin island as the new Horde base. 

[Hindenburg]

Haha, no, I was thinking lazier. "Add a goblin tower to Org and a new district to storwind" lazier.

[Merusk]

I'm going to cry if they make me do 1-58 again.  At least Outland doesn't feel like torture.

Get the Heirloom shoulders and chest.  +20% xp on top of rested xp and the shortened xp curve = the "Kill Mistmantle" quest in Duskwood giving my L31 rogue 4 bubbles of xp.   

I could report more on how many quests per level, but after finishing out Duskwood I got disheartened as I remembered that level 31-40 quests till take fucking forever since that's the "Run here. NOW run two zones and a continent over. Ok NOW run back too the start" levels.

[Lakov_Sanite]

I'm going to cry if they make me do 1-58 again.  At least Outland doesn't feel like torture.

From someone who may or may not be trolling on the SA forums but does have contacts inside Blizzard: Goblins and Worgen will not need to level from 1. And that is somehow tied into the expansion's core concept in a fundamental way.

(No, I've got no idea either). 

First thing I thought of is account bound XP, such that every daily quest I do at 80 can yield exp to go straight to an alt.

[ezrast]

I'm going to cry if they make me do 1-58 again.  At least Outland doesn't feel like torture.

From someone who may or may not be trolling on the SA forums but does have contacts inside Blizzard: Goblins and Worgen will not need to level from 1. And that is somehow tied into the expansion's core concept in a fundamental way.

(No, I've got no idea either). 

First thing I thought of is account bound XP, such that every daily quest I do raid mob I kill at 80 can yield exp to go straight to an alt.

I would resub so fucking fast.

[kildorn]

On the plus side, there should be people my level to adventure with.  At least for 20 minutes, until you all out-level me again.

Kild doesn't count.

I hear that from a depressing number of women.

[Sjofn]

Get the Heirloom shoulders and chest.  +20% xp on top of rested xp and the shortened xp curve = the "Kill Mistmantle" quest in Duskwood giving my L31 rogue 4 bubbles of xp.   

I could report more on how many quests per level, but after finishing out Duskwood I got disheartened as I remembered that level 31-40 quests till take fucking forever since that's the "Run here. NOW run two zones and a continent over. Ok NOW run back too the start" levels.

You can probably get pretty deep into the 30's just doing the racetrack quests with the heirloom method, which do not make you run all over until the last steps of  a few of the chains. After that I dunno, I honestly got through those levels really fast the last time I went through 'em. Maybe revamped Dustwallow?

[Lantyssa]

I think I mostly did Hillsbrad, Alterac, and Arathi for those levels.  Completely skipped Stranglethorn.  It wasn't until the 40s or 50s that I started hitting the go everywhere stuff.  (Which contributed greatly to my burnout.)

[Rasix]

Completely skipped Stranglethorn.

WHY? I love love love Stranglethorn (horde).  For this last alt I almost completely skipped any Alterac/Arathi content.  Managed to skip most of the Plaguelands, Desolace, Silithius, etc.  I got to skip all of my least favorite zones.

Even with all of that skipping, old world leveling was incredibly boring and it just felt like it wouldn't end.  So much friggin' running and slow mount trotting.

And no, I'm not picking on you.

[Rasix]

I'm going to cry if they make me do 1-58 again.  At least Outland doesn't feel like torture.

Get the Heirloom shoulders and chest.  +20% xp on top of rested xp and the shortened xp curve = the "Kill Mistmantle" quest in Duskwood giving my L31 rogue 4 bubbles of xp.  

Had the shoulders for my warlock.  It was still terrible. I'm   just a tad here.  Even the prospect of my 6th time through Outland is less nauseating than another run through the southern Barrens.

edit: Ohh god, another 5k gold+ on stupid riding skills.  

[kildorn]

You can do outlands in three zones (Hellfire, Zangarmarsh, Terrokar or Nagrand)

As for Lanty's issues. 40-50 SUUUUUCKS. It's mind searing horrible running around running out of quests and the zones are all either slightly too hard or entirely green. 45-51 especially so.

Once you pass 51 or so, it's all clear skies and fast levels. With the exception of 61, which feels like it takes as long as 62-70.

[Lantyssa]

WHY? I love love love Stranglethorn (horde).  For this last alt I almost completely skipped any Alterac/Arathi content.  Managed to skip most of the Plaguelands, Desolace, Silithius, etc.  I got to skip all of my least favorite zones.

I used Stranglethorn to level on four or five characters already.  The new northern flight point helps immensely, however I have spent a combined fity plus levels there.  (I'm obsessive about clearing a zone of quests once I start there.  Plus Goblin faction.)  I was already chaffing under leveling another character, so having someplace new was very important to not giving up completely.

Keep in mind I cannot power through these levels when going solo.  My new main is only 65 after starting her up at the end of January and I've been subbed the entire time.

[Fordel]

Lanty's issue is she sees an adorable rabbit, then spends 30 minutes petting it.

[Merusk]

Get the Heirloom shoulders and chest.  +20% xp on top of rested xp and the shortened xp curve = the "Kill Mistmantle" quest in Duskwood giving my L31 rogue 4 bubbles of xp.   

I could report more on how many quests per level, but after finishing out Duskwood I got disheartened as I remembered that level 31-40 quests till take fucking forever since that's the "Run here. NOW run two zones and a continent over. Ok NOW run back too the start" levels.

You can probably get pretty deep into the 30's just doing the racetrack quests with the heirloom method, which do not make you run all over until the last steps of  a few of the chains. After that I dunno, I honestly got through those levels really fast the last time I went through 'em. Maybe revamped Dustwallow?

Shit, I completely forgot about the racetrack.  Thanks!  I was dreading doing Hillsbrad, Arathi and Desolace.   I also forgot about Dustwallow.   I leave STV until late 30's, early 40's just because if you go there at 30 you're there a Long, Long, Long time and get sick of the damn zone.

[Sjofn]

Completely skipped Stranglethorn.

WHY? I love love love Stranglethorn (horde).  For this last alt I almost completely skipped any Alterac/Arathi content.  Managed to skip most of the Plaguelands, Desolace, Silithius, etc.  I got to skip all of my least favorite zones.

Stranglethorn is a lot more pleasant as Horde than Alliance. Horde's base is really convenient there, Alliance used to only have a flight point in Booty Bay, with their faction specific base on the complete opposite end. Now that it has a flight point and mounts at that level, it's probably not as horrible, but STV suuuuuuuuuuuuucked back in the day. I skipped as much of it as I could after the first time through.

And Merusk, I am so totally with you on the Desolace hate. I fucking hate that zone with a burning passion. I haven't gone there willingly in years.

[Nevermore]

Desolace sure does have an obnoxiously high mob density for a zone that's supposed to be desolate.