Trent Reznor Gets Disenchanted with the Internet

[Morfiend]

Forum Post Here.

I thought this was interesting if nothing else.

I had thought a while ago about attempting to start a mainstream public forum that required real verification of it's participants for purposes of context. The idea was to have a place where you can actually discuss whatever and have some idea of who you're conversing with. For example, if we were discussing drumming techniques and you can see that someone participating in the discussion is a drum instructor vs. a 13 year old kid Googling answers, you'd have the proper context in which to have a potentially valid discussion. If we were discussing EDLC's heart condition and a real cardiologist speaks up, I'd value his opinion over, say FredFuckFaceWhateverHisLastFuckingNameIs's "opinion". Know what I mean? Anyway, we're in a world where the mainstream social networks want any and all people to boost user numbers for the big selloff and are not concerned with the quality of experience.

[Goreschach]

Who cares what Trent Reznor thinks about the internet?

[Morfiend]

Who cares what Trent Reznor thinks about the internet?

I find it interesting, seeing as he has made an effort to really be part of the social networks and bring his music to people in new ways and with new pricing models.

[stray]

One aspect I don't like is getting too... umm.. involved. I mean just down to the level of even making friends. I think it's a shame that you can meet cool people on the net, but that you may never meet them otherwise and never actually be friends in the end. To me, that's disenchanting. Why invest any time in people I'm truly not friends with? I think it's cool if certain groups or forums have a means of meeting people, even if occassionally.. but otherwise, wtf. The internet is nothing to revolve one's life or plans around.

This also applies to hate, I guess. Not just friendship.

If I'm derailing, tell me so! Not sure if I am. I think Trent is commenting about generalities, and not just music/etc..

[Merusk]

Not a big fan of penpals either, are ya Stray?

[stray]

Penpals or Twitter! Neither/nor 

[Signe]

Trent Reznor is yummy! 

[rattran]

I end up meeting a surprising number of intarweb people. And I haven't killed(or been killed by) any of them yet.

[NiX]

I hope Yegolev keeps his shirt on if If I ever meet him.

[Azaroth]

Trent Reznor proclaims internet folks potentially anonymous. Trent Reznor apparently considers taking heart disease advice from random person on internet, perhaps should consider anonymous short term memory doctor's advice in an attempt to remember his previously stated rudimentary knowledge of the internet.

The rest of us can consider long term memory help in recalling who the fuck Trent Reznor is and when he was last relevant.

[rattran]

He's been doing a lot on the internet and with twitter/myspace etc. Pushing the envelope on distribution ideas, trying different things. Like a lot of people, he's hit a limit to how much abuse you can take from random interweb fucknuts.

or

"Go to bed, old man!"

[Merusk]

He was last relevant about the same time Mike Patton was.

 

[stray]

I hope by that, you mean... never was irrelevant?

Last I checked, Mike Patton was God.

[UnSub]

He was last relevant about the same time Mike Patton was.

 

On that note, reviews of the Faith No More reunion show at the Brixton Academy have been pretty good. Here's hoping they make it to Australia.

[Azaroth]

He's been doing a lot on the internet and with twitter/myspace etc. Pushing the envelope on distribution ideas, trying different things. Like a lot of people, he's hit a limit to how much abuse you can take from random interweb fucknuts.

or

"Go to bed, old man!"

Rupert (has a cat and likes The Cure) has been doing a lot with twitter/myspace etc, too. Nobody gives a fuck.

But I get the feeling that you probably couldn't distribute NIN music effectively in 2009 if you gave away free handjobs with each copy. Maybe he could try that - but then again, people on the internet may give you shit. Perhaps a scolding will set them straight.

[Hawkbit]

You can come up in here and bitch about Reznor and I'm cool, w/e.  But don't talk shit about Patton or we'll have words. 

[stray]

Everything Patton does nowadays is much better than what he was doing 10 or 20 years ago imho. Fantomas and Tomahawk are far better bands than FNM and Mr. Bungle. I believe Fantomas has the Bungle bass player, but it's also Lombardo on drums and Buzzo on guitar. Even a band with buzzo and lombardo and no Patton would be sick. Tomahawk has one of the best guitarists around with Denison (Jesus Lizard). Fantomas allows Patton to experiment, Tomahawk just rocks.

[rattran]

He's been doing a lot on the internet and with twitter/myspace etc. Pushing the envelope on distribution ideas, trying different things. Like a lot of people, he's hit a limit to how much abuse you can take from random interweb fucknuts.

or

"Go to bed, old man!"

Rupert (has a cat and likes The Cure) has been doing a lot with twitter/myspace etc, too. Nobody gives a fuck.

But I get the feeling that you probably couldn't distribute NIN music effectively in 2009 if you gave away free handjobs with each copy. Maybe he could try that - but then again, people on the internet may give you shit. Perhaps a scolding will set them straight.

Except he's been making loads of money, getting a lot of press, and selling out concerts. Or by all means, keep talking out of your ass.

[Triforcer]

Trent Reznor was an NPC in Starcraft, right? 

[Azaroth]

Trent Reznor was an NPC in Starcraft, right? 

 


How DARE you.

[Grimwell]

Not that I've ever been a huge NIN fan... but if selling out shows on a regular basis is irrelevant can someone please find an irrelevant band that needs an out of practice bass player? I'd like to be irrelevant like NIN instead of irrelevant and on a normal salary.

Seems that the money hat would make the irrelevance less painful.

...but by all means continue to slag him for not being on top 40 radio. 

[stray]

I think he's only ever scratched the surface of Top 40 for two songs anyways. As popular as he is, he never was relevant in that fashion.

[Grimwell]

True, and kind of my point.

He's been constantly successful since the 80's without the need for people who identify their cool through music. Even when I thought his work was mediocre, folks were going nuts for him. I'll take that kind of irrelevance. :)

[Amarr HM]

Good topic actually we were discussing something similar on (The West) chatzy channel yesterday of all places.

[Merusk]

I hope by that, you mean... never was irrelevant?

Last I checked, Mike Patton was God.

Precisely, but it's more fun when you just drop stuff like that without explaining you're being ironic.

[Amarr HM]

Everything Patton does nowadays is much better than what he was doing 10 or 20 years ago imho. Fantomas and Tomahawk are far better bands than FNM and Mr. Bungle. I believe Fantomas has the Bungle bass player, but it's also Lombardo on drums and Buzzo on guitar. Even a band with buzzo and lombardo and no Patton would be sick. Tomahawk has one of the best guitarists around with Denison (Jesus Lizard). Fantomas allows Patton to experiment, Tomahawk just rocks.

I'm still a bit of an FNM fan & I would argue they were much more melodic and the songs were more crafted, plus I am biased towards rock music using synths. Tomahawk although I like it it's just gutteral noise by comparison.

[Mrbloodworth]

Fantomas and Tomahawk are far better bands than FNM and Mr. Bungle.

 

[Segoris]

I find it interesting, seeing as he has made an effort to really be part of the social networks and bring his music to people in new ways and with new pricing models.

^This. I don't like Trent Reznor or NIN much, I think he's a bit of a douche. I do, however, respect some of the efforts he makes for social networking and music distribution. The way he released Ghosts and The Slip I thought were great, and truly something I respect about him. I wish more musicians (namely when they get to a good level of fame and wealth) would reward fans from time to time.

[Segoris]

The Jesus Lizard

It had to be done

[stray]

Fantomas and Tomahawk are far better bands than FNM and Mr. Bungle.

 

Aren't you a Republican or something?

 

[Mrbloodworth]

Fantomas and Tomahawk are far better bands than FNM and Mr. Bungle.

 

Aren't you a Republican or something?

 

No, but some of bungle was pure clarity in vision. But it was not ALL Mike. Anyway, tomahawk and Fantomas, while interesting experiments.... much like much of Napalm death, are not comparable to the works of Faith, or Bungle. So, in no way can I agree they are "Better" as I don't even think they are anywhere near the same category. Unless you were speaking to the talent in the band makeup, i may agree, but those bands are certainly not the showcase.

[stray]

I'm not sure what you mean by clarity of vision. Or what Fantomas and especially Tomahawk has to do with Napalm Death. Tomahawk isn't much of an experimental anything anyhow. Just a straight up rock band really, more comparable to FNM - except their guitarist is one of the meanest, ear piercing guitarists around.. and without even being metal. It helps that I'm a bigger fan of both the Melvins and the Jesus Lizard than I am FNM and Bungle anyways though.

[Signe]

He was last relevant about the same time Mike Patton was.

 

Also yumnmy!

[Mrbloodworth]

I'm not sure what you mean by clarity of vision.

Pink cigarette. Air conditioned nightmare.

The connection to Napalm Death is patten. Its a loose one. Anyway, from my limited hearing of Fantomas, in concert only, i was..... Shocked. Sounded more of just another reason for his to make his mouth noises. lol. Just not my thing. Perhaps i need to listen to more of the studio stuff.

antelope ceremony = Rock and roll??   

Also:

    * 2007 - The Darkness - Voice of The Darkness (Starbreeze Studios)
    * 2007 - Portal - Voice of the Anger Sphere (Valve Software)
    * 2008 - Left 4 Dead - Infected voices (Valve Software)
    * 2009 - Bionic Commando - Voice of Nathan Spencer - the Bionic Commando (Capcom)


I did not know this.

[stray]

oh, and as for synths, Mike himself plays them full time (plus like a gazzilion mics) in Tomahawk. His voice is also the best it's been.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F72MGGpORMM


anyways! :P

antelope ceremony = Rock and roll??  

The third album was Tomahawk finally playing up to their namesake. Which is still something special... But go buy the first two albums. Mit Gas in particular.

Fantomas jumps around too. Most of it sounds like the Taz fronting a Death Metal band. You probably won't like it. Not all of it hard to appreciate though. They have one album full of movie scores that's a little more conventional to your ears. Like this Twin Peaks cover, for example.