Trent Reznor Gets Disenchanted with the Internet

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Re-de-rail:

Tomahawk and Fantomas are much tighter and interesting than Mr Bungle, but Mr Bungle contains a hell of a lot of where Patton went from and arrived at. I've never bothered to track down the EPs, but the gap in quality / product between Mr Bungle's self-titled album to Disco Volante to California is HUGE. Ditto the jump from FNM's The Real Thing to Angel Dust. Tomahawk and Fantomas are just more focused on what they are meant to be.

But anyway, where I think Patton should get major respect is that amount of quality work in different areas he puts out. He's doing Tomahawk, Fantomas, Peeping Tom, guest appearances all over the place, partly running Ipecac and signing / releasing other artists, doing voices for video games and also some acting. Now Faith No More and a big tour with them. The man's a machine. I'm sure he's made enough money off FNM to sit back and not do much with his time, but he still goes out and creates and performs, sometimes for audiences who don't even want him (Peeping Tom fronting for The Who, for instance).

Anyway, here's a link about FNM at the Big Download Festival: http://www.antiquiet.com/shows/2009/06/faith-no-more-download-festival/

I'd love a new Lovage album, provided it doesn't send up like the second Handsome Boy Modelling School release: really ordinary (and ironically with a Mike Patton track).

[Mattemeo]

But anyway, where I think Patton should get major respect is that amount of quality work in different areas he puts out. He's doing Tomahawk, Fantomas, Peeping Tom, guest appearances all over the place, partly running Ipecac and signing / releasing other artists, doing voices for video games and also some acting. Now Faith No More and a big tour with them. The man's a machine. I'm sure he's made enough money off FNM to sit back and not do much with his time, but he still goes out and creates and performs, sometimes for audiences who don't even want him (Peeping Tom fronting for The Who, for instance).

He is a machine, and it ruined his marriage. Which in turn, lead him to work even harder on even more projects. Sometimes, I wish I had even a fraction of his relentless drive - I'm immensely lethargic and doing anything takes me far more effort than it ought to - but even I know that Patton's a cold case workaholic. Reznor isn't far off - he's never quite as prominent within the industry as Patton but he's got thumbs in many pies and is obviously more vocal thanks to his fan relations, though how much of this he'll be stemming now remains to be seen.

I'd love a new Lovage album, provided it doesn't send up like the second Handsome Boy Modelling School release: really ordinary (and ironically with a Mike Patton track).

The second Handsome Boy Modelling School album suffered the same problem Peeping Tom did - too many guest/celebrities standing on tip-toes going 'ooh ooh, me me!' and the focus and quality control died. The tracklisting of 'White People' is a long line of (feat. xxx)s, and if it's not carefully organised it just becomes a mess of disparate vocalists. I like the album but it's nothing on 'So... Hows Your Girl?' and Lovage's 'Music to Make Love...'

[Hoax]

I'm pretty sick of social networks.  I think Reznor's right. I had to work on this stuff for nearly a decade and it's fundamentally about advertising $$ and not community.  The Well is long long long gone, and so is NWN on AOL.

As AOL was once the onboarding tool for many non-technical people to the InterWebz so now social networks are the tool to widen the net.  Personally, I have a derelict Facebook page with a friends list that exists only because my wife uses her own daily.  I never had a MySpace page.  I've never shared del.icio.us stuff or google reader links or bloody anything.  I have a LinkedIn mostly to help former staff for referrals.  The places I want to visit and bother reading are actual communities like f13.  The rest of that stuff is noise. 

I'm bored but I'm regretting reading gen disc.  Thanks Soln for saving two threads by posting something useful in them (this and the casino thread).  Also people responding an Az post?  While laughing about Reznor not getting the internet?  Nice work there guys.

[Righ]

I'm not following...? There's nothing anonymous about me. My name is Ken. Nice to meet you.  

Hello, I'm Trent Reznor. Pleased to meet you.

It is very easy for people to misrepresent themselves on the Internet, but when everything is being picked over by crooks, predators and arseholes it's generally not a good idea to be publishing a biography and digitally signing everything. However, developing electronic conferencing facilities that provide escrow mechanisms for semi-private data would certainly have value.

[stray]

Hah! I knew you were Trent, man. All this time. Especially Signe vaguely referring occasionally to her brushing shoulders with many musicians and such. She's Mariqueen probably.


On another note, I think I accused Sky once of secretly being CeCe DeVille. Or I bet he's somebody like that. 

[DraconianOne]

The bulk of his post is more about trolls and spammers. That's what got him disenchanted, I think.

There is all the Metal Sludge stuff that but there's also a recent episode which really threw the shitmonkeys into the spotlight. Reznor recently held a little random NIN/JA VIP ticket give away on Twitter for arbitrary reasons.  Shortly afterwards, he got invovled in raising money for this guy who needs a heart transplant (younger brother of Veronica De La Cruz, a CNN anchor).  NIN and Jane's Addiction decided to sell off tickets to raise money for this which included back-stage passes and all sorts of extras. They raised a fuck ton of money ($850K apparently) but in the middle of all this, Reznor apparently downgraded the free tickets he gave away on Twitter or something so that he could make more space for people willing to part with money for charitable purposes.

This, of course, brought the worst elements of the internet out who were angry - nay, furious - that something they got for free was now just a free ticket to a gig rather than a personal invite to hang out backstage like those who paid for that particular pleasure.