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							With any of the Alpha or Named skags, remember that their armor is all up at the front. Grenades and turrets are your friend, and fiery things resist fire, spitty things corrosion, etc. Sledge's Shotgun is pretty useful for those two due to the knockback.
  And playing with a soldier set up for shotguns for a while, it seems very meh compared to combat rifles. And in one more level I'll get to replace my venerable lvl24 rifle with a nice Orange 43. 
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							And playing with a soldier set up for shotguns for a while, it seems very meh compared to combat rifles. 
  I've read that shotguns are better suited to a soldier specced for healing.  
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							With my infantry soldier, it's all about the SMG and MG, with the sniper for openers. That was actually a problem with the named fire skag, it's a fire-based sniper rifle (high initial damage and lighting enemies on fire? Oh yes, I pull with that), and I ran out of ammo with my other two guns.
  Actually the second try on him took more like a half hour, since it was me running away half way through to run for the ammo/medic vendors by the zone-in...and running into a ridiculous spawn of badass acidic skags. First time the game threw them at me, and it didn't let up, with me out of most ammo and firing the fire sniper from the hip...it got a bit silly for a bit. Then running back through the re-spawned bandit camps, again it spawned a bunch of badass mobs for some reason (it hadn't been before this), so I had to run back for more ammo...finally made it back to a fully-healed fire skag. I was running Yakety Sax in my head. 
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							Ookii
							
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							With my infantry soldier, it's all about the SMG and MG, with the sniper for openers. That was actually a problem with the named fire skag, it's a fire-based sniper rifle (high initial damage and lighting enemies on fire? Oh yes, I pull with that), and I ran out of ammo with my other two guns.
  Ha, you probably had the exact same sniper rifle I had when I took them on. Being that this game has poor path-finding I just jumped up some nearby steps and they couldn't touch me. Every two seconds they open their mouths to growl, and then you can just stuff a bullet right in there. At level 12 I got a level 22 sniper rifle, I should post it since it's pretty sweet. Still haven't been able to use it yet though, the game is taunting me.  
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							Morfiend
							
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							Is there anyway to bind health kits to a key? Having to use them from inventory is horrible. 
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							Is there anyway to bind health kits to a key? Having to use them from inventory is horrible.
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							Ookii
							
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							Next you'll want town portals so you can sell your loot without having to go to a vending machine.
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							Well there are vending machines everywhere. 
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							Don't respond to Ookii. He doesn't like games that revolve around loot. The only reason he would show up here is to troll.
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							I seem to be having trouble with the Roid Rage guy at level 14.  My turret doesn't do much and a rocket launcher at his feet barely scratches him.  Best I've done is get him to about 30% with a machine gun to the head.  Maybe I just need better guns, or kiting skills.
 
  
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							The ending was kinda lame. It was this big buildup, and then it just kind of whimpered and shriveled. Ah well.
  Plot in this game is completely throwaway, it's about the setting, the shooting, and the loot. 
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							Segoris
							
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							I seem to be having trouble with the Roid Rage guy at level 14.  My turret doesn't do much and a rocket launcher at his feet barely scratches him.  Best I've done is get him to about 30% with a machine gun to the head.  Maybe I just need better guns, or kiting skills.
 
 
  Which Roid rage guy? There was Bone Head at 9-11 range but I can't think of the next challenging npc.  
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							OcellotJenkins
							
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							I seem to be having trouble with the Roid Rage guy at level 14.  My turret doesn't do much and a rocket launcher at his feet barely scratches him.  Best I've done is get him to about 30% with a machine gun to the head.  Maybe I just need better guns, or kiting skills.
 
 
  Which Roid rage guy? There was Bone Head at 9-11 range but I can't think of the next challenging npc. This is the guy in Sledge's way house, where you get the mine key.  
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							Isn't Sledge's a level 15 quest? Being one level under a boss mob while solo can be tough. I'll be hitting that part tonight.
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							A fast weapon and/or kill it with fire. A shock turret seems to do a decent job on him, and lots of minions for transfusion grenade happiness. 
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							OcellotJenkins
							
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							Isn't Sledge's a level 15 quest? Being one level under a boss mob while solo can be tough. I'll be hitting that part tonight.
  Really should start up a multiplayer character some day...
  This quest is level 12 I think and is part of the Sledge chain but not the "kill sledge" quest.  
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							I don't think I've seen this go by, but if you want to kick someone from your game here's the magic incantation:
  press Escape->View Lobby->Highlight the person you want to kick->Press Delete. 
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							Oh, the roid rage psycho. With all the midgets transfusion grenades are nice, if they are not an option then the explosive MIRV. Also, melee weapons actually did a good amount to him iirc. Remember to use that pit (where you entered from) to your advantage if you need time to regen your shield since he doesn't have one
  Or, you can cheese him (like almost any other boss I've seen so far)
  
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							Morfiend
							
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							The only reason he would show up here is to troll.
  Isnt that pretty much every thread?     
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							This quest is level 12 I think and is part of the Sledge chain but not the "kill sledge" quest.
  Hmm...I don't remember it being that low or I'd have done it by now. A shock turret seems to do a decent job Last thing I did last night was turn in the bounty board quest for those two named skags...which netted me the incendiary upgrade for the turret. Can't wait to try that one out. Still five levels from getting rockets on my turret...  
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							 Really should start up a multiplayer character some day...
 
 They're all multiplayer characters.  You can invite someone to your single player game easy.   
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							This quest is level 12 I think and is part of the Sledge chain but not the "kill sledge" quest.
  Hmm...I don't remember it being that low or I'd have done it by now. I misspoke, after checking just now the quest is level 14 "Sledge: To the Safehouse" and is Normal difficulty for me.  
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							Sky
							
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							They're all multiplayer characters.  You can invite someone to your single player game easy. 
  What about that bug that dumps all your skill points...  
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							In the few games I've been in, there hasn't been a problem with the skill point bug. I even CTD last night in a game and it didn't happen (I figured with a CTD it wouldn't have been able to autosave and almost expected it to show up then, but nothing). 
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							Finally got a multiplayer game together tonight.         The voice chat is clownshoes but otherwise it was a damn good time.  
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							My Internet is all screwed up for the next 8 or so hours so posting from my phone so I. cAnt check the thread properly - do guns that have a damage multiplier (ie +50% damage) is that shown in the "weapon damage" stat? Or do you have to do the maths and calculate the higher dos weapon yourself?   
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							My Internet is all screwed up for the next 8 or so hours so posting from my phone so I. cAnt check the thread properly - do guns that have a damage multiplier (ie +50% damage) is that shown in the "weapon damage" stat? Or do you have to do the maths and calculate the higher dos weapon yourself?  
  Bonuses to Accuracy, Weapon Damage, and Rate of Fire are factored in as far as I can tell.  
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							Finished playthrough 1 with my Siren tonight.  I played the beginning and end mostly solo with a lot of late-night co-op binges with friends (they played Soldier/Hunter) in between.
  I had a fun enough time although you can really trivialize the game if you do every side mission (and/or farm equipment).  I finished up at 36 and that was only with a bit of overlap between solo and co-op missions.  I don't have the "random loot gene" that a lot of folks here have so my enjoyment of the equipment was really tempered by the Four Attributes Shown bullshit.  The rest of the interface issues basically fade away although it could have clearly used a lot of work.
  Presenting the story through audio recordings was spot-on as it let you keep playing while getting story information.  It isn't a great story but it doesn't need to be (more ending stuff in the spoiler). The presentation, gameplay, and story all fit together really well.  The music was really well done, it was never overly dramatic or foreboding which as a scaredy cat I appreciated.  (I'm not sure I'd have used the super-awesome music when I was running through an area with things 2/3 my level just trying to turn something in though.)
  Considering my lack of the "random loot gene" and my general disdain for single-player/co-operative shooters, I'm surprised how much I liked Borderlands.  I probably won't touch it single-player again (for a while at least) but the co-op was a blast.
 
  
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							So is there a stash or bank of some kind anywhere? I'm level 10 and I've just come across a pair of level 24 green weapons.     
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							So is there a stash or bank of some kind anywhere? I'm level 10 and I've just come across a pair of level 24 green weapons.    Sadly I don't think so.  You've just got to hold on to everything you want.  
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							So is there a stash or bank of some kind anywhere? I'm level 10 and I've just come across a pair of level 24 green weapons.    No, but I've used the twink method (run a second client or split screen if console) to create a mule to hold stuff.  
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							Speaking of marketing, we're out of milk. 
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							How do you manage to run a second client when the game crashes on alt-tab? 
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							How do you manage to run a second client when the game crashes on alt-tab?
  Doesn't crash on alt-tab for me. Sometimes it gets 'stuck' minimized but that's about it. Boxed version, not steam although that probably makes no difference.  
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							Speaking of marketing, we're out of milk. 
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							The ending was kinda lame. It was this big buildup, and then it just kind of whimpered and shriveled. Ah well.
   
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							Just finished playthrough 1 all solo with a  level 35 Roland, and realized that my bread-and-butter weapon through the last stages of the game was a level 11 blue. Which makes me feel better about overleveling near the end.  
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