Borderlands

[Segoris]

I get messages that store inventories have been updated.  Which I thought was nice.

I thought it was nice too until I kept seeing epics I couldn't afford, now it's just fueling my anger at a vending machine I want to blow up  

Anyone know what quest unlocks the 4th weapon slot?

[AutomaticZen]

There was a sniper rifle in Fatty Roman's store as soon as it opened by the grenade-quest.  Let's not get into that tired old "the random number generator is broken" discussion.  I bought a nice pistol instead.

If you can afford it, you get some really nice swag on the limited-time offers at the store.

Sorry, about declining your invite last night Yeg, I was hosting the game I was in.

[Yegolev]

Sorry, about declining your invite last night Yeg, I was hosting the game I was in.

Hmm?  That was probably Rasix, I haven't signed up for GameSpy.  However, for future reference, I'm not someone that you can offend without some due diligence and blind luck.

[Hoax]

GSID- wayabvpar

Have a 12 soldier and a hunter around the same (I was so tired when I finally went to bed last night I honestly can't remember what level I was!). Will try out berserker and siren today. Always up for MP, so invites are welcome; if I don't join it is because I am already in a MP game.

schild, I loathe gamespy as much as the next guy, but for private games it is pretty much invisible.

I'm pretty sure I posted mine before for just to reiterate:

GSID: Automaticzen

I'll be playing tonight.  If I don't answer an invite, it's because I'm in a game already.

If you make sure to host a private MP game instead of starting up SP then usually I can see the level/class that a person is playing with along with how many guns they've found and what quest they are on, which is pretty cool.

[Rasix]

gsID: RasixF13

This game does have some issues and consolitis of the GUI, but it's a lot of fun so far.  Not sure I love the soldier, may switch over to the hunter.  Brick or the Siren aren't too interesting to me.

[Venkman]

GSID: Darniaq.

I don't share schild's dislike for GS, but I do agree this'd be hella better using Steam's system.

I need a hypnotist to convince me to ditch this PC thing 

[bhodi]

Some things you should know about the FOV

Apparently when playing single player, once you change the FOV it'll stay at that setting no matter what you do (like sprinting). However, when you are in a multiplayer game, sprinting will reset your FOV to their default (which is apparently very, very low). Someone earlier in the thread suggested adding the FOV command to your sprint bind, which mostly works... but since sprinting is not really a toggle or press/release thing... it's a turn on while moving forward by tapping it thing... you end up sprinting, then stopping, then looking at an awful FOV. The solution?

Put the FOV command you want on not only your sprint key, but also all your movement keys. It'll look something like this in your ...\My Documents\My Games\Borderlands\WillowGame\Config\WillowInput.ini file under the heading [WillowGame.WillowPlayerInput]

Bindings=(Name="E",Command="MoveForward | Axis aGas Speed=+1.0 | FOV 106",Control=False,Shift=False,Alt=False,LeftTrigger=False,RightTrigger=False,bIgnoreCtrl=False,bIgnoreShift=False,bIgnoreAlt=False)
Bindings=(Name="D",Command="MoveBackward | Axis aBrake Speed=+1.0 | FOV 106",Control=False,Shift=False,Alt=False,LeftTrigger=False,RightTrigger=False,bIgnoreCtrl=False,bIgnoreShift=False,bIgnoreAlt=False)
Bindings=(Name="S",Command="StrafeLeft | FOV 106",Control=False,Shift=False,Alt=False,LeftTrigger=False,RightTrigger=False,bIgnoreCtrl=False,bIgnoreShift=False,bIgnoreAlt=False)
Bindings=(Name="F",Command="StrafeRight | FOV 106",Control=False,Shift=False,Alt=False,LeftTrigger=False,RightTrigger=False,bIgnoreCtrl=False,bIgnoreShift=False,bIgnoreAlt=False)
Bindings=(Name="SpaceBar",Command="advancedbutton bAdvancedButtonAux6 | FOV 106",Control=False,Shift=False,Alt=False,LeftTrigger=False,RightTrigger=False,bIgnoreCtrl=False,bIgnoreShift=False,bIgnoreAlt=False)

Note that I play with ESDF for movement keys, and Spacebar as Sprint. Also note that I like an FOV of 106 for my 1920x1200 resolution. Alter to taste.

[Prospero]

GSID: prospero

So far it's reminding me of Serious Sam, but with shiny loot, which isn't a bad place to be.

[fuser]

Thanks man, that fixes my gripe about the jarring experience in running, now to see if you can do the same on "action" for phasewalking

Lilith is pure melee range fun. Friend is playing Mordecai sniping while I'm phase-walking in and assassinating mobs with a revolver head shots, pure TF2 spy gold. He's far off sniping the other mobs and the ones chasing me as I run away like a little girl.  

[MrHat]

Think we could get a subforum for Borderlands with Gamespy ID thread, and the .ini hack into a thread to?

[WayAbvPar]

Think we could get a subforum for Borderlands with Gamespy ID thread, and the .ini hack into a thread to?

Heh I just posted this and came in to post the link. Great minds...

[Draegan]

I started with Lilith last night, to level 8, but I'm thinking Mordecai might be better for me.  Not sure I like the melee style.

[Amaron]

My GSID is ES|Sore

I too wish they would of used Steam but the gspy stuff seems to work well enough.   The consolitis is bad but I'm still glad I got this on PC.  Having a mouse for shooting things in the face makes up for all the crappy menus in the world.

[NiX]

How does inviting work with GS? Do you just start a normal game, invite and your friend has to deal with the GS side of it? I was in a single player game last night and I had the option to invite, so that's why I ask. Not sure how that works with needing a GS login.

[Trippy]

At level 8 with the Solider right now and the game feels too RPG, not enough shooter. I.e. your level and equipment makes far more difference than your shooter skills. I got the broken "travel-thingy" quest at level 7 (had to Google the solution to that one) which had as its second part a quest to kill a level 11 boss. At level 7. Not going to happen, though I tried a few times. So now I have to "grind" for exp to finish that quest but like an RPG I have to be very careful what level monsters I fight. Too high and the cost to kill is greater than the drop reward. Too low and the exp isn't fast enough. Feels like old-school EQ where you had to hunt for "low-mid blues" for the best exp per unit time.

[fuser]

I started with Lilith last night, to level 8, but I'm thinking Mordecai might be better for me.  Not sure I like the melee style.

A good thing to do is practice some jump timing on skags, you can hop right over their charges and circle strafe avoiding melee damage.

[murdoc]

I am not a good shot, yet I love the sniper rifles.

[fuser]

So now I have to "grind" for exp to finish that quest but like an RPG I have to be very careful what level monsters I fight.

Have you done all the quests from the billboard? I had tons of things to do to get up to around level 9-10 before really attempting him. There's the whole bush collection quest etc in the NE cave from the first town on the map.

[Segoris]

For the Lilith talk, is anyone else not using phasewalk until the mobs are on them? I'm finding I enjoy playing her, and do better, if I use it full on defensively or as a finisher rather then an opener.

At level 8 with the Solider right now and the game feels too RPG, not enough shooter. I.e. your level and equipment makes far more difference than your shooter skills. I got the broken "travel-thingy" quest at level 7 (had to Google the solution to that one) which had as its second part a quest to kill a level 11 boss. At level 7. Not going to happen, though I tried a few times. So now I have to "grind" for exp to finish that quest but like an RPG I have to be very careful what level monsters I fight. Too high and the cost to kill is greater than the drop reward. Too low and the exp isn't fast enough. Feels like old-school EQ where you had to hunt for "low-mid blues" for the best exp per unit time.

Tip on the level 11 guy, Bone Head, for lower level player if wanted:

[Ard]

From what I'm reading on Phase Walk, it's currently broken and not working properly.  The friend I've been playing with is playing her and has only had luck using it defensively.

http://gbxforums.gearboxsoftware.com/showthread.php?t=76411&page=4
Last post on that link.

[fuser]

For the Lilith talk, is anyone else not using phasewalk until the mobs are on them? I'm finding I enjoy playing her, and do better, if I use it full on defensively or as a finisher rather then an opener.

I use it as a opener then if the crap has hit the fan to ditch aggro on to my friend who routinely goes into a cursing fit or as a pure escape when shield is down and taking a lot of its.

With the  so its a great opener. Combo that with a general close range head shot and your first mob is down allowing any special talents ie: enforcer to be up for his buddies.

One problem non stop was ammo issues. We were hunting in a high level area (1-2 levels above us) and the co-op health buff to the mobs we were throwing tons of cash into just stocking up on ammo.

From what I'm reading on Phase Walk, it's currently broken and not working properly.  The friend I've been playing with is playing her and has only had luck using it defensively.

Only complaint there is phase strike isn't working as intended which is the bottom of the assassination tree. Played last night on steam build with zero issues at all ditching aggro to escape fights and to use phase walk as an opener on mobs.

[Draegan]

From what I'm reading on Phase Walk, it's currently broken and not working properly.  The friend I've been playing with is playing her and has only had luck using it defensively.

http://gbxforums.gearboxsoftware.com/showthread.php?t=76411&page=4
Last post on that link.

Thats phase strike that's broken, which is the final "talent" in one of her trees.  Phase Walk is fine.

[AcidCat]

At level 8 with the Solider right now and the game feels too RPG, not enough shooter. I.e. your level and equipment makes far more difference than your shooter skills.

This become less and less of an issue as you progress and get better skills and guns - and there are really a ton of quests, so you should always have several alternatives if one sends you at enemies that are too strong - at level 24 I'm having the opposite problem of too many quests that I'm outleveling them before I can do them all. The game also really opens up more after that newbie area, and you'll be finding a lot more content that is appropriate to your level range.

[Segoris]

I use it as a opener then if the crap has hit the fan to ditch aggro on to my friend who routinely goes into a cursing fit or as a pure escape when shield is down and taking a lot of its.

With the  so its a great opener. Combo that with a general close range head shot and your first mob is down allowing any special talents ie: enforcer to be up for his buddies.

I'll have to try that with the spoilered item, that might be a nice opener. Stock, low level phasewalk I just can't get on board with the offensive use. Although I still think that even with the spoilered item, a defensive use would be huge since it will hit more enemies as they gather around the player. Will be interesting at higher levels.

Is the mob bonus hp really that significant with 2 people that you can open and use it later as an escape? I'm finding in single player (when I did use it as an opener) I couldn't have it again until the next group of mobs due to finishing fights too fast.

One problem non stop was ammo issues. We were hunting in a high level area (1-2 levels above us) and the co-op health buff to the mobs we were throwing tons of cash into just stocking up on ammo.

Ammo was a problem on single player as well though. I ended up buying some upgrades to the ammo stock capacity and that helped once I got them filled. Having a soldier with +ammo regen on the turret should be a lot nicer

[Ard]

Only complaint there is phase strike isn't working as intended which is the bottom of the assassination tree. Played last night on steam build with zero issues at all ditching aggro to escape fights and to use phase walk as an opener on mobs.

Ah, my bad.  Haven't played Lilith myself so I'm not down with the lingo.  And I'm old and stuff.  Get off my lawn.

[LK]

I got a mod about midway through the game that had a high ammo regen and it turned the game into a dull infinite ammo fest. All the containers I was opening with ammo were useless. So, yeah.

[Venkman]

I don't want to ask in the sticked INI tab: What exactly is vsync? Synchronizing between game screen refresh and monitor refresh rates?

[Kitsune]

Bingo.  It's supposed to eliminate 'tearing', the appearance of the top half of your screen being out of alignment with the bottom half.

[Draegan]

I had Vsync issue with the opening sequence but not in the game itself.

[Lantyssa]

With the  so its a great opener. Combo that with a general close range head shot and your first mob is down allowing any special talents ie: enforcer to be up for his buddies.

[Trippy]

So now I have to "grind" for exp to finish that quest but like an RPG I have to be very careful what level monsters I fight.

Have you done all the quests from the billboard? I had tons of things to do to get up to around level 9-10 before really attempting him. There's the whole bush collection quest etc in the NE cave from the first town on the map.

That was a billboard quest. The other one is for level 10, I think (not in the game ATM). I picked up some quests from the blind dude in the zone with the first boss so that should level me up enough hopefully to take out the other guy.

[Trippy]

Tip on the level 11 guy, Bone Head, for lower level player if wanted:

I tried it from the closer lower platform but my crappy sniper rifle could barely dent his shield and if I missed at all by the time I could get another shot off his shield would regen to full.

[caladein]

So now I have to "grind" for exp to finish that quest but like an RPG I have to be very careful what level monsters I fight.

Have you done all the quests from the billboard? I had tons of things to do to get up to around level 9-10 before really attempting him. There's the whole bush collection quest etc in the NE cave from the first town on the map.

That was a billboard quest. The other one is for level 10, I think (not in the game ATM). I picked up some quests from the blind dude in the zone with the first boss so that should level me up enough hopefully to take out the other guy.

Yeah, for whatever reason the Bone Head quest and the one to talk to the blind guy are the same level.  I tried Bone Head once, got clobbered and decided to try the other guy.  The subsequent quests from him are lower and when I finished with those I didn't have much trouble killing Bone Head.

[Segoris]

I tried it from the closer lower platform but my crappy sniper rifle could barely dent his shield and if I missed at all by the time I could get another shot off his shield would regen to full.

That seems weird how fast his shield is recharging, unless it takes a long time between shots. I haven't used a sniper rifle yet (and didn't even have one when I fought him if I wanted to) so I don't know how long it takes between shots.

Did you try unloading the clipper on him? What I did was use the clipper and some random smg from up on the rafters and his shield wouldn't start refilling while I reloaded, only when I went to recharge my shield.

[Venkman]

Bingo.  It's supposed to eliminate 'tearing', the appearance of the top half of your screen being out of alignment with the bottom half.

Ah ok thanks. I've never had that happen.