"Oh btw, FFXIV Online in 2010"

[Samprimary]

Seventy in German is about the softest sounding word they have.

DAS UBERSMECKTERFAUHRENTAUGHRACTUNFTSZCHERPANZCKREMPFHRAUTZKREIG

[waffel]

http://www.gametrailers.com/video/review-hd-final-fantasy/705893

Gametrailers review.

Pretty much exactly what everyone else is saying.

[Lantyssa]

Seventy in German is about the softest sounding word they have.

DAS UBERSMECKTERFAUHRENTAUGHRACTUNFTSZCHERPANZCKREMPFHRAUTZKREIG

Also one of their shortest.

[Der Helm]

Seventy in German is about the softest sounding word they have.

DAS UBERSMECKTERFAUHRENTAUGHRACTUNFTSZCHERPANZCKREMPFHRAUTZKREIG

Also one of their shortest.

Donaudampfschiffahrtskapitänzmützenhalterungshersteller.

This one IS a real meaningfull word btw...

[01101010]

Donaudampfschiffahrtskapitänzmützenhalterungshersteller.

This one IS a real meaningfull word btw...

Ahh I see now why Germans are batshit crazy. I could not imagine having that on my 3rd grade spelling list.

[Zetor]

Not as awesome as Donaudampfschifffahrtsgesellschaftsraddampferkapitänskajütentürsicherheitsschlüssel though!  

edit: yeah derail, but I'll take a discussion about insane german words over a discussion about FF14 any day of the week

[Der Helm]

Donaudampfschiffahrtskapitänzmützenhalterungshersteller.

This one IS a real meaningfull word btw...

Ahh I see now why Germans are batshit crazy. I could not imagine having that on my 3rd grade spelling list.

Mark Twain agrees

You are not wrong.

To be honest, it is just a huge noun+noun+noun... compound. There is no limit on how many nouns you can add. It just gets bothersome.

Not as awesome as Donaudampfschifffahrtsgesellschaftsraddampferkapitänskajütentürsicherheitsschlüssel though! 

Now THAT is material for a spelling contest! 

Can you use it in a sentence, please ?

[Lantyssa]

Can you use it in a sentence, please ?

Ich mag Donaudampfschifffahrtsgesellschaftsraddampferkapitänskajütentürsicherheitsschlüssel.

[Der Helm]

 


Derail complete ?

[waffel]

Should repeat the same 4 posts over and over again for 2 pages to get this thread more FFXIV focused.

And somehow disable scrolling the page with a mouse and force everyone to use the arrow keys.

[Samprimary]

Here's something I want to say in response to the reviews already out: I think these reviewers are hinging too hard on stressing 'now after all it could totally get better! there's always time and room to improve..'

Yeah, fat bloody likely. After 2008-2009, it's become startlingly evident that there's a fairly consistent pattern in place: the studio that can't get a title in shape for launch is the studio that can't fix the title post-launch. You can always hold out hope that they'll buck the trend, but this rarely ever happens. The launch now for the most part tells you everything you need to know about whether or not you'll be impressed with the game's promised improvements.

And to stick a fork in it further, even if your studio can, mmo players aren't gonna hang around long enough to find out. You can't have players paying for an (un)gorified beta. When players get frustrated and drop out, the effect cascades when others log in, stare forlornly at their empty friendslists (or linkthetan or whatever S-E wants to relabel it) and bail to go rejoin the people they play with. in a game where they can be relatively confident that grinding foozles still matters. Ah, I'm repeating myself now. I should just revise the constant themes, put it in a block of text, and be done with it.

[01101010]

Here's something I want to say in response to the reviews already out: I think these reviewers are hinging too hard on stressing 'now after all it could totally get better! there's always time and room to improve..'

Yeah, fat bloody likely. After 2008-2009, it's become startlingly evident that there's a fairly consistent pattern in place: the studio that can't get a title in shape for launch is the studio that can't fix the title post-launch. You can always hold out hope that they'll buck the trend, but this rarely ever happens. The launch now for the most part tells you everything you need to know about whether or not you'll be impressed with the game's promised improvements.

And to stick a fork in it further, even if your studio can, mmo players aren't gonna hang around long enough to find out. You can't have players paying for an (un)gorified beta. When players get frustrated and drop out, the effect cascades when others log in, stare forlornly at their empty friendslists (or linkthetan or whatever S-E wants to relabel it) and bail to go rejoin the people they play with. in a game where they can be relatively confident that grinding foozles still matters. Ah, I'm repeating myself now. I should just revise the constant themes, put it in a block of text, and be done with it.

Yes but this time, there is a console involved 
or couldn't you tell?

[Kitsune]

The sad thing is, if Sega would just refrain from shutting down the Phantasy Star servers, they have a really fun accessible cross-platform MMOG.

[LK]

I think this one thread is the most I've seen samprimary post. I'm itching for a cartoon now, damn it.

[Shrike]

The sad thing is, if Sega would just refrain from shutting down the Phantasy Star servers, they have a really fun accessible cross-platform MMOG.

Except that someone would have to know about it, and the PSU community is...odd, not to put too fine a point on it.

[Special J]

I'm taking in all the reviews and so far my impression is a lot of running across a much nicer looking Plains of Karana.  Does this game ever look like a step backward.

Edit: Wow. I just found out about their auction house.  It's more primitive than EQ's Bazaar when it launched.  Hell, the old Freeport market looks better.

[Shrike]

I'm taking in all the reviews and so far my impression is a lot of running across a much nicer looking Plains of Karana.  Does this game ever look like a step backward.

Edit: Wow. I just found out about their auction house.  It's more primitive than EQ's Bazaar when it launched.  Hell, the old Freeport market looks better.

You kids and your bazaars and auction houses and all that frou-frou bullshit. When I played EQ, we hung out in the tunnel in West Commonlands and spammed general chat with prices for hours on end. And we liked it. Especially when some asshole druid would charm then buff a griffin and train it on the tunnel and port out...or some other asshole shadowknight would drag Sgt. Slate to the passage to Nektulos Forest and feign death to watch the mayhem.

Not that I would have any personal knowledge of such things, but...hey, get off my grass!

[Murgos]

The funny thing is that from the sound of it running from zone to zone /ooc wts SSoY would work better than what's currently implemented.

[tmp]

The funny thing is that from the sound of it running from zone to zone /ooc wts SSoY would work better than what's currently implemented.

Probably not in FFXIV though. Maybe i'm just dumb but there didn't seem to be any right-click menu to send person a tell and such. Even putting someone on ignore required going through three layers of menu and typing their name and surname manually, then dismissing couple confirmation boxes. 

[Special J]

You kids and your bazaars and auction houses and all that frou-frou bullshit. When I played EQ, we hung out in the tunnel in West Commonlands and spammed general chat with prices for hours on end. And we liked it. Especially when some asshole druid would charm then buff a griffin and train it on the tunnel and port out...or some other asshole shadowknight would drag Sgt. Slate to the passage to Nektulos Forest and feign death to watch the mayhem.

Not that I would have any personal knowledge of such things, but...hey, get off my grass!

Hey. I did bring up Freeport.  The amazing thing is Freeport/Commons offer better markets than FF XIV; At least they had a search function:  "/ooc WTB bnded armr PST"

[Shatter]

Mmmm commonlands tunnel, thats where I bought my first Stein of Moggok

http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=2332

I loved that cup of greatness

[Kageru]

And EQ could at least offer the argument that it was community building. Probably not productive enough to make the time invested worth it but there was a fair bit of chat due to all the (bored) people in the zone. All this approach offers is evidence of bad game design and tedium.

[Samprimary]

Someone did one of those wholesomely hard to fact-check casual server population counts during the game's peak hours and came up with the figure of about 39,200 users.

[Special J]

Holy shit, they even cockblock /friend.  According to the GT review they have to be in the same area as you.

[tmp]

list of all things wrong with the game Well, not all, but pretty extensive, good if you missed some wtf's.

- Price adjustments on repairing, a 10 piece set at 50k is 500k to repair...

[LK]

Some of those are a pipe dream, like fully voiced cutscenes.

I wonder how much this game cost to make. Seems like it's a quick cash-in attempt, which is TRAGIC and eliminates Squaresoft forever as a serious MMO contender.

[tmp]

Some of those are a pipe dream, like fully voiced cutscenes.

I wonder how much this game cost to make. Seems like it's a quick cash-in attempt, which is TRAGIC and eliminates Squaresoft forever as a serious MMO contender.

Well, you get just a few of these cutscenes every 10 levels or so if i'm not mistaken so it's not really large amount of work involved overall. Especially when at the same time small companies can provide fully voiced obscure "interactive novels" on their market, with literally hours worth of voicework.

Have impression this wasn't "quick" attempt by any means, there's been some vague mentions of Square working on another MMO for few years now. It just seems to be perfect storm of some really dumb design decisions.

edit: speaking of which:

We are limited to 128 characters per linkshell. Once we reach that point, we are no longer able to invite people in.

If someone is not logged in and near to a sack holder or the shell holder we cannot remove them to free up spots for people who are playing.

Our only option if we wish to continue to be able to invite into the shell people who are logged in to the game and playing is to periodically transfer to a new shell.

[Murgos]

The funny thing is that from the sound of it running from zone to zone /ooc wts SSoY would work better than what's currently implemented.

Probably not in FFXIV though. Maybe i'm just dumb but there didn't seem to be any right-click menu to send person a tell and such.

There were no right click menus to send people tells in EQ when I played.  It meant that people with stupid names didn't get responses.

/tell Els'iq'quiana'tch're-ahhh FUCKIT!
/tell jimbo I'll buy your massively over priced item.

[Velorath]

More reviews are starting to roll in now, with Gamespy giving the game 2/5, and IGN giving it 5.5 out of 10.

[Kageru]

More reviews are starting to roll in now, with Gamespy giving the game 2/5, and IGN giving it 5.5 out of 10.

Hyperlink technology activate!

[Falwell]

Luckily, Geldon is still around to inform us that this is all part of SE's grand strategy!

[Velorath]

More reviews are starting to roll in now, with Gamespy giving the game 2/5, and IGN giving it 5.5 out of 10.

Hyperlink technology activate!

Honestly, at this point I'm betting that you can guess just about everything those reviews say without looking at them.

[Mrbloodworth]

Luckily, Geldon is still around to inform us that this is all part of SE's grand strategy!

[Segoris]

Luckily, Geldon is still around to inform us that this is all part of SE's grand strategy!

I'm not sure how to combine + + + into one smiley, but if I could, I'd place it right >here<

[Falconeer]

It's really bearing more of the earmarks of something that may be ahead of its time.

Sigh. After defending Geldon for a long time, I hereby demand for him to be put into a sanatorium.