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apocrypha
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I went for the Leopard. I'm now driving a T-28, an SU-5, a Hetzer and a Leopard. Definitely having the most success with the arty & TD. Only played the Leopard a couple of times last night and I died to the tier IX's very fast. Might have to try the "hide in a bush and spot" scouting method. The T-28 is a weird tank... I got the 85mm gun on it, and it feels like a TD without the thick front armour! It's too big & noisy to hide anywhere but if I manage a few sneak hits then it rocks. If I get spotted and fired at by anything bigger than a VW Beetle then I'm toast.
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"Bourgeois society stands at the crossroads, either transition to socialism or regression into barbarism" - Rosa Luxemburg, 1915.
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apocrypha
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Planes? Shit, I'm terrified to get in my car now!
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Any advice regarding the 2 ways up to the VK3601(H) and beyond? Ausf.A/PzIII or Pz.38(t)/NA route?
Oh, yeah, the other thing... crew training. Bit confused about it. The % skill that starts at 50% for new crew, that's tank-specific yeah? But once they get to 100% I can start them learning a specialist skill thing yeah? So am I right in thinking that when I sell tanks there's no point in keeping the crew unless I either plan to drive that tank again in the future or if any of them are at 100% and are training another skill?
Cheers!
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« Last Edit: October 06, 2011, 12:00:49 AM by apocrypha »
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"Bourgeois society stands at the crossroads, either transition to socialism or regression into barbarism" - Rosa Luxemburg, 1915.
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disKret
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Any advice regarding the 2 ways up to the VK3601(H) and beyond? Ausf.A/PzIII or Pz.38(t)/NA route?
Oh, yeah, the other thing... crew training. Bit confused about it. The % skill that starts at 50% for new crew, that's tank-specific yeah? But once they get to 100% I can start them learning a specialist skill thing yeah? So am I right in thinking that when I sell tanks there's no point in keeping the crew unless I either plan to drive that tank again in the future or if any of them are at 100% and are training another skill?
Cheers!
You can buy a new crew with every new tank - 50% is a stock crew, you can pay with silver to get 75% crew, with gold you can get 100% crew. When you will move your 100% crew to new tank you must retrain them for it (they will be downgraded to 80%, 90% with silver and 100% with gold). If you want to driver your old tank - its again a retrain.
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apocrypha
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Planes? Shit, I'm terrified to get in my car now!
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Yeah, I know that, what I'm asking is: Is there any point keeping crew that are under 100% when I sell a tank, unless I intend to drive that tank again?
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"Bourgeois society stands at the crossroads, either transition to socialism or regression into barbarism" - Rosa Luxemburg, 1915.
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disKret
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Yeah, I know that, what I'm asking is: Is there any point keeping crew that are under 100% when I sell a tank, unless I intend to drive that tank again?
Only for medals. And I'm not sure but there is a limit in barracks size?
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apocrypha
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Yeah, and it costs gold to increase it. I didn't realise the medals were attached to the person, rather than the account. Damn. Makes sense though.
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"Bourgeois society stands at the crossroads, either transition to socialism or regression into barbarism" - Rosa Luxemburg, 1915.
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disKret
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Yeah, and it costs gold to increase it. I didn't realise the medals were attached to the person, rather than the account. Damn. Makes sense though.
It is both :D With a crew memeber You just see who earn it... cosmetics.
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apocrypha
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Ahh OK! Cool, in that case, farewell legion of poorly-trained, unwanted tier-2 tank drivers! You've been rationalised! In other news.... wtf is the point of the PzIIIA? Either it sucks donkey bollocks or I do.
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"Bourgeois society stands at the crossroads, either transition to socialism or regression into barbarism" - Rosa Luxemburg, 1915.
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Engels
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It sucks. the PzIII is where its at. You just have to suffer the indignity of the PzIIIA first.
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Raknor
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Ahh OK! Cool, in that case, farewell legion of poorly-trained, unwanted tier-2 tank drivers! You've been rationalised! In other news.... wtf is the point of the PzIIIA? Either it sucks donkey bollocks or I do. Get used to having several tanks in each line suck for your play style at some point in the progression. Grind through it, or pay money to skip through it. You pick which works best for you.
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apocrypha
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Fair enough. I'm done with the PzIIIA now anyway, nice shiny new PzIII in the garage. Well I say shiny, it's been blown up a few times already. I have a particular knack for getting my tanks set on fire. I may have to create a picture gallery of assorted tanks burning merrily. Oh and a Hetzer, with the 10.5cm gun? Serious fun. First time I fired that thing it made the cat jump about 6" into the air.
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"Bourgeois society stands at the crossroads, either transition to socialism or regression into barbarism" - Rosa Luxemburg, 1915.
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Ginaz
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Fair enough. I'm done with the PzIIIA now anyway, nice shiny new PzIII in the garage. Well I say shiny, it's been blown up a few times already. I have a particular knack for getting my tanks set on fire. I may have to create a picture gallery of assorted tanks burning merrily. Oh and a Hetzer, with the 10.5cm gun? Serious fun. First time I fired that thing it made the cat jump about 6" into the air. I have the 105 on my VK2801. Speed derping has been the most fun I've had in this game. I've one shotted Hummels with it and it can reliably damage anything up to tier 8 if you hit it from the sides or back. A Tiger 2 completely ignored me even though I was right behind him because he was busy trying to kill a Type 59. I would say I took off well over 70% of his HP myself while he was distracted.
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apocrypha
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Yeah, I just had a match where I fired 6 shots and got 5 kills with it. Struggling with the KV though, man that fucker is sloooooooowwwwwwwww. It's like driving a brick, and this is with upgraded engine & tracks! Still only got the stock gun though, inching slowly towards t'Derp.
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"Bourgeois society stands at the crossroads, either transition to socialism or regression into barbarism" - Rosa Luxemburg, 1915.
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Ginaz
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Yeah, I just had a match where I fired 6 shots and got 5 kills with it. Struggling with the KV though, man that fucker is sloooooooowwwwwwwww. It's like driving a brick, and this is with upgraded engine & tracks! Still only got the stock gun though, inching slowly towards t'Derp. The KV is lightning fast compared to my Maus.
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apocrypha
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Jesus, really? I don't really know where I'm heading long-term, and there may not even be a long time, but I really like the look of the Tiger line. Which is good because I'm enjoying the PzIII a lot atm. Fantastic little tank in the street maps, great at flanking and corner-popping and supporting heavies. I've put the 7.5 cm gun on it, the short stubby one, which is forcing me to fight close-up, really finding my handling skills improving as a result. Hoping to get a platoon up tonight, any recommendations for good combos with a total newb? I've still got a Luchs sat in my hangar, that'll be able to group with newbie tanks ok yeah?
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"Bourgeois society stands at the crossroads, either transition to socialism or regression into barbarism" - Rosa Luxemburg, 1915.
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Brolan
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Jesus, really? I don't really know where I'm heading long-term, and there may not even be a long time, but I really like the look of the Tiger line. Which is good because I'm enjoying the PzIII a lot atm. Fantastic little tank in the street maps, great at flanking and corner-popping and supporting heavies. I've put the 7.5 cm gun on it, the short stubby one, which is forcing me to fight close-up, really finding my handling skills improving as a result. Hoping to get a platoon up tonight, any recommendations for good combos with a total newb? I've still got a Luchs sat in my hangar, that'll be able to group with newbie tanks ok yeah? If you like short-range brawling the Tiger line is a poor choice as they are mostly sniper tanks. You want the Russian heavy line (KV-3, IS, IS-3) but be aware you have to pay major dues in the horrible KV first.
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Abagadro
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I think the KV with the derp is a blast if you have the right mindset. You just have to go in knowing you will get maybe two or three shots before getting killed but it will be fun to one shot a couple of poor saps. It does suck if you get thrown into an 8-10 tier match though as you usually lose that satisfaction.
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Ginaz
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Jesus, really? I don't really know where I'm heading long-term, and there may not even be a long time, but I really like the look of the Tiger line. Which is good because I'm enjoying the PzIII a lot atm. Fantastic little tank in the street maps, great at flanking and corner-popping and supporting heavies. I've put the 7.5 cm gun on it, the short stubby one, which is forcing me to fight close-up, really finding my handling skills improving as a result. Hoping to get a platoon up tonight, any recommendations for good combos with a total newb? I've still got a Luchs sat in my hangar, that'll be able to group with newbie tanks ok yeah? If you like short-range brawling the Tiger line is a poor choice as they are mostly sniper tanks. You want the Russian heavy line (KV-3, IS, IS-3) but be aware you have to pay major dues in the horrible KV first. The KV is a good tank and can hurt and destroy tanks several tiers higher with the derp gun and the 107. But yeah, the Soviet line has much better brawlers than the Germans.
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Ginaz
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« Last Edit: October 08, 2011, 04:15:18 PM by Ginaz »
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veredus
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If you go the Russian heavy line I highly recommend the KV-1S over the KV-3. Really easy to play it like a medium and overall much closer in play style to the IS then the KV-3 is. It can kind of suck until you get the 122 but once you do it's a ton of fun. One of the few tanks I keep just to play for fun. You can also go from there straight to the KV-13 which is also very fun and use that to unlock the IS and T-43.
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apocrypha
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I'll bear that in mind about the KV-1S, cheers. Spent the night platooned up with a couple of mates who hadn't played before so I hopped back into tier 1 & 2 tanks and we had a blast in newbie matches. By the end of the night they'd got enough XP for tier 2s and I was back in a PzIII. Got 5 kills in Himmelsdorf and they got 2 each. Killed one guy by shooting him in the face as I was barrelling down the hill and then ramming into him. Hilarious stuff
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"Bourgeois society stands at the crossroads, either transition to socialism or regression into barbarism" - Rosa Luxemburg, 1915.
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Tmon
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Funny thing is he has games in a Lowe, KV-5, type 59 and Ram II. He's spent over $100 (assuming he bought the lowe before the price went up) on premium tanks. I believe his stats are a much better explanation for what he sees in battle chat when he drives them than his explanation in his topic post. (edited because I missed a premium)
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« Last Edit: October 09, 2011, 10:44:19 AM by Tmon »
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Engels
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If you guys haven't gotten a T-50 or T-50-2 yet, please do. Its the funnest thing EVAR. Bonus fun if you play yakittysacks while zooming about before 'sploding.
Don't think you're getting the full lol experience with an A-20 or a Leopard. Those are, relatively speaking, 'grown up tanks'.
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I should get back to nature, too. You know, like going to a shop for groceries instead of the computer. Maybe a condo in the woods that doesn't even have a health club or restaurant attached. Buy a car with only two cup holders or something. -Signe
I LIKE being bounced around by Tonkors. - Lantyssa
Babies shooting themselves in the head is the state bird of West Virginia. - schild
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Merusk
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I've been working towards the T-50 for just that reason. Those fuckers zip around in THE MOST annoying fashion when trying to shoot them, so I have to have one.
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Ginaz
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If you guys haven't gotten a T-50 or T-50-2 yet, please do. Its the funnest thing EVAR. Bonus fun if you play yakittysacks while zooming about before 'sploding.
Don't think you're getting the full lol experience with an A-20 or a Leopard. Those are, relatively speaking, 'grown up tanks'.
I have all 3 of the new tier 5 lights and the T50-2's maneuverability is crazy. It has the same top speed of the VK2801 but accelerates and moves MUCH better. However, too many people use it to suicide scout (like the other lights) and get blown up fast. I like to move forward quickly, find a nice bush to hide in, wait to see what I can spot, then, after a few minutes, proceed with all due speed to the enemy base to take out their arty. The VK2801 works very well as an anti-scout defending your own base/arty, then once their scouts are dead proceed to the enemy base for their arty or help support your team by flanking the enemy and hitting them from behind with the derp gun. The Chaffee is bit more tricky to play as its slower than the other 2 lights and doesn't have the armor/hp of the VK2801. Its top gun, however, is great and can do some serious damage if you catch other tanks by surprise or support the other tanks on your team. I once took out a Tiger 2 that was right in front of me because he was so concerned with the Lowe in front of him that he ignored me completely. The only thing to be aware of for the tier 5 lights is that they tend to be money losers. Repair costs are around 9k and you'll be lucky to get 12k with a win.
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apocrypha
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Planes? Shit, I'm terrified to get in my car now!
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I like to move forward quickly, find a nice bush to hide in, wait to see what I can spot, then, after a few minutes, proceed with all due speed to the enemy base to take out their arty.
This is exactly what I've been trying to do with the Leopard but I'm not very good at it. I've not really worked out yet where all the good hiding spots are and most often get spotted myself. Once I found out that you need to be behind the bush not in in it got better, but I still suck at hiding! Can't tell if the camo net is helping, I assume it is. Acceleration isn't great on the Leo tbh, which means that when I do get spotted 9 times out of 10 I can't get away fast enough, although I'm learning to look for bushes on a hill so I can get a helping hand from gravity if needed
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"Bourgeois society stands at the crossroads, either transition to socialism or regression into barbarism" - Rosa Luxemburg, 1915.
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apocrypha
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Planes? Shit, I'm terrified to get in my car now!
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Oh god dammit... just looked at my stats. Addicted much? Nearly 1100 games in 12 days. I need some fresh air...
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"Bourgeois society stands at the crossroads, either transition to socialism or regression into barbarism" - Rosa Luxemburg, 1915.
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disKret
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Oh god dammit... just looked at my stats. Addicted much? Nearly 1100 games in 12 days. I need some fresh air... :D You will get slightly better when next tank/tier upgrade will come in 5-10 days of playing not just in "just one more win".
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Merusk
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After hearing "critical hit" on 4 shots in a row on a Cunningham in my Pfz and seeing said cunningham still at 78%I'm beginning to wonder if there's hacks about.
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Brolan
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After hearing "critical hit" on 4 shots in a row on a Cunningham in my Pfz and seeing said cunningham still at 78%I'm beginning to wonder if there's hacks about.
it sounds like you are using HE, that creates more critical hits than AP but usually does less actual damage. It's only when you get into the big Derp guns (122mm and above) that you kill effectively with HE. There are exceptions (like arty) of course.
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Merusk
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Nope, the AP rounds because HE does dick, as you said.
It wasn't just me hitting him either, but the tank next to me that he also destroyed. Been seeing a lot of guys "lag "halfway across the map recently, too.
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Abagadro
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You were probably tracking him. That is often a no-damage crit-hit.
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angry.bob
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After hearing "critical hit" on 4 shots in a row on a Cunningham in my Pfz and seeing said cunningham still at 78%I'm beginning to wonder if there's hacks about.
Eh, the game's sort of wierd that way. No matter what tank I'm using I usually do little or no damage with critical hits. There's also ghost rounds too, those show up seemingly at random.
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apocrypha
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Planes? Shit, I'm terrified to get in my car now!
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I see a lot of 0 damage crits too, and there's several forum threads about it with people claiming it's increased in frequency since the last patch. I can't attest to that since my playing has also increased in frequency since the last patch, from zero to lots.
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Brennik
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Those zero-damage crits are usually you hitting the same, already destroyed module over and over again without hitting any other internal structure. Usually. Very infuriating at times.
I stopped believing in ghost shells after I disabled gun firing smoke effects. That way I can see all the ridiculous misses the dispersion formula gives. The targeting reticle is flat out inaccurate at times, the dispersion formula can and will make you land the shot outside the reticle at times when you get bad enough random values, even when you have 100% gunner and ventilation etc. Rest of the misses are usually attributable to lag.
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