Trippy
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They bounce almost nothing, but they shit out so much damage that no one can sit still and trade with them.
The derp guns have long reload times, though, and are not very accurate. So try not to engage close up, bait out a shot if you can, and then take your time aiming if his front is at an angle (even at an angle there will always be something near-perpendicular to you either on the small turrets or the main turret itself).
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Azazel
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So is there a simple explanation out there for how "crew training" works between tanks? I'm aware that people buy premium tanks as "crew trainers" but I don't really understand how it works. I've bought quite a few premiums, but I've always just treated them as discrete additional toy tanks in the tank game sandbox rather than as "trainers".
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Nebu
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So is there a simple explanation out there for how "crew training" works between tanks? I'm aware that people buy premium tanks as "crew trainers" but I don't really understand how it works. I've bought quite a few premiums, but I've always just treated them as discrete additional toy tanks in the tank game sandbox rather than as "trainers".
Say you have a Russian heavy premium tank. You can put a heavy tank crew from ANY of your Russian heavies into the premium tank without having to re-train them. They stay trained for the tank that you took them from. Does that help?
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Trippy
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You can train crews of a particular nation and type combination (e.g. USSR Heavy) in a premium of the same combination. The crew you move into the premium suffers no penalties to their proficiencies unlike when you move a crew from one non-premium tank to another non-premium tank.
E.g. if you have the premium IS-6 you can train your USSR Heavy crews in them. Note that the number of crew members and their qualifications in the premium may not exactly match the crew you are trying to train. E.g. the IS-6 has a crew size of 4 but the KV-1 has a 5th crew member (Radio Operator). The converse can be true as well where the premium has more crew slots than the tank crew you are trying to train.
If you are doing this type of training on a regular basis I highly recommend you install the XVM mod if you haven't already so that you get the "Automatically Return Crew" feature that you can toggle with a check box. That features makes it much much easier to swap crews between your non-premium tanks and your premium crew trainers.
Edit: also since premiums count as Elite tanks you generally want to run them with the "Accelerate Crew Training" button checked to speed up crew training even more. The only time you would have that unchecked is if you have gold to spare and want to convert the tank's XP into Free XP you can use elsewhere.
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Azazel
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So you run a game with, say your heavy tank crew of choice in their normal tank for the x2/x3 daily, then move them to the Premium for a x2/x3 game, then back to their own tank?
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Trippy
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Yup.
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Nebu
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This is why premiums have the value that they do. You train crews faster while making bonus credits. When you get tier 10 tanks, you can train their crews in premiums to grind both credits and crew xp.
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angry.bob
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So you run a game with, say your heavy tank crew of choice in their normal tank for the x2/x3 daily, then move them to the Premium for a x2/x3 game, then back to their own tank?
Or you can keep playing them in the premium tank for however long you want. Even after the 2X game they give you accelerated crew training and bonuses to the money you earn. You can also train crews from other types of vehicles in them. They're at a skill penalty while they're in the mismatched premium but their skills still train up faster.
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This feature of premium tanks was much less publicized at release time. Even though I read the official boards a couple times a week I did not learn about it until had several hundred battles in my tier 4 pre-order tank. Was running the tank least once every day just as a credit earner. Don't think found out about it until got the tetriarch as a Christmas gift 9 months after release.
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Trippy
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Pretty much everything about crews is a confusing mess. Supposedly they are going to redo that stuff completely to be more like World of Warships.
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WayAbvPar
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This one I would like to dedicate to Nebu, since I know how much he likes arty More that I wanted to show how fucking BAD our team was, but we kept chipping away. Started out down like 3-9 and won. Didn't hurt that their blue T34 sat AFK all game (was good for my stats though). I thought we were doomed but then looked up and saw that jdub had most of his HP still, and knew we had a fighting chance. He is pretty good.
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Nebu
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Fucking sky cancer... Great game. Well played!
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Sir T
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Pansy.
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Nebu
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Did everyone quit? My friends list has been gray for about a week or two.
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Trippy
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I'm still playing though I probably shouldn't have played tonight as I basically wiped out all of my hard won +win rate from last week in one session.
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Sir T
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Considering WG sent me a kinda... odd "PLEASAE COME BACK" email A few weeks back I guess I haven't played in a while Suranis1, where are you? Your tanks are missing you.
THEY NEED YOU
Suranis1, we've noticed that your tanks are getting rusty. Show them some love!
Remember the feeling when you unlocked a tank and took it out for the first time?
The precision and ridiculous damage dealt by that new gun taking down your enemies almost in one shot?
The sloped armour bouncing so many hits?
The incredible top speed allowing you to circle your enemies, driving them mad?
Your tanks are missing you. They are waiting for you. Show them some love Um... they are not my type?
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Did everyone quit? My friends list has been gray for about a week or two.
Work has been consuming me, or I've been doing/playing other things. Haven't quit, though.
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Trippy
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I hate weekends.
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Trippy
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I hate weekdays.
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Nebu
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I hate weekdays.
I hate weekends.
I guess that has it covered.
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Trippy
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Pretty much. Holidays might be an exception but I doubt it.
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« Last Edit: October 16, 2015, 11:11:31 AM by Trippy »
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WayAbvPar
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I haven't hit a Scorpion with an arty round yet. I did blow the turret off of one though. That was good times.
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Trippy
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Yeah they are super squishy. Just getting out of spawn with your HPs intact is a challenge. Non-damaging shots can still kill your commander. And any hit to your turret will destroy your gun. It's still more fun to play than I was expecting. It's too bad it's only a 4-man crew.
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Trippy
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This KV-5 event has been good for practicing my Jagdtiger 8.8.
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Brolan
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This KV-5 event has been good for practicing my Jagdtiger 8.8.
Yup, my T28 has been doing well too.
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Nebu
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This might be a great weekend to grind my tier 9's.
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Trippy
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The KV-5 has preferential MM, though, so you won't see them in T10 games in your T9s unless they are platooned with somebody that doesn't have the pref MM.
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Nebu
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The KV-5 has preferential MM, though, so you won't see them in T10 games in your T9s unless they are platooned with somebody that doesn't have the pref MM.
Yes. I understand how the MM works. My ST-I is almost impossible for a KV-5 to penetrate, even with gold rounds. Side note: Seems all of the better players have left for AW. The player base in WoT is the worst I've ever seen. I didn't think that was even possible.
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The KV-5 has preferential MM, though, so you won't see them in T10 games in your T9s unless they are platooned with somebody that doesn't have the pref MM.
Yes. I understand how the MM works. My ST-I is almost impossible for a KV-5 to penetrate, even with gold rounds. Side note: Seems all of the better players have left for AW. The player base in WoT is the worst I've ever seen. I didn't think that was even possible. I think the worst have also left for AW... Which leaves people with potatoes that can't play AW playing WOT.
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Trippy
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The KV-5 has preferential MM, though, so you won't see them in T10 games in your T9s unless they are platooned with somebody that doesn't have the pref MM.
Yes. I understand how the MM works. My ST-I is almost impossible for a KV-5 to penetrate, even with gold rounds. Yeah that's why I'm using the JT 8.8. The KV-5 can't pen the superstructure even with gold and it can't even pen the front with gold* if I'm angled even just slightly but I can pen the front of his turret reliably (presuming his droids are hidden) without gold. I have other tanks that are one or the other (KV-5 can't pen or I can pen front without gold) but not both. Side note: Seems all of the better players have left for AW. The player base in WoT is the worst I've ever seen. I didn't think that was even possible.
The tomatoes are always out in force on the weekends. * And I haven't seen any of the rental KV-5s firing gold at me yet which makes it even better
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Nebu
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I think I like this event. Victory! Fjords T26E4 SuperPershing Experience received:4,725 ( x2) 128,714 Battle achievements High Caliber, Steel Wall, Defender, Mastery Badge: "Ace Tanker"
WN8: 10 746 (100) 4259 Damage, 2900 blocked, and 1500 base XP.
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Yeah it was a good weekend.
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Brolan
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Looks like those dicks at Wargaming are going to make us pay to remove complex equipment from the rental KV-5. I thought those temporary tanks just went away and your equipment got dumped into your depot?
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angry.bob
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No, they sit there forever, taunting you with your inability to ever use them again. THey used to go away and give your stuff back, but not now.
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Wovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
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