World of Tanks

[Ginaz]

I'll just have to learn to be more patient.

That is the single most important thing to playing this game.

I like to play the wait game and most people do not.  They lose as a result.

My biggest problem is I'm often way too aggressive.  Sometimes I get rewarded for doing it but most times I just end up dead.  If I sit back or find a safe spot to wait, I can see the flow of the battle and know where I should be.

Another tip to pass along: Pay attention to the freaking mini map!  I don't know how many times I see teamates drive right by an enemy tank thats been spotted and not even notice it.  Sometimes its right behind them and blasting them in the ass and they still don't notice.

[Merusk]

Those last ones are always the ones that get me.  Not that it hasn't happened to me once in awhile.. but it seems like every. damn. game.

Also: Arty that doesn't move when a scout is blown up 50 yards or less from them.   Even if you say "Hummel, you've been spotted, relocate."

[Sheepherder]

So, sort of like trying to engage mediums or heavies in a light.

The lights are pretty much constantly forced by the match-maker into a purely scout role. My leopard spends a lot of time hiding from tier 8 tanks in which shooting them just gives your position away. I was wondering if the Tier 5+ french lights got better match making but they're still considered scouts.

It's not like equal tier medium vs. heavy is a fair fight either.

High speed passes in a medium isn't effective because you aren't going to find an unescorted heavy very often.  If you do, you still have to contend with the fact that him using his turning and traverse to lay his gun or driving into your path will fuck you completely.  You basically would have to be right on top of him and traveling at full speed before he is aware to pull it off.

[Kageru]

I'm enjoying world of tanks because the restricted movement and way you interact deeply with the terrain makes it quite tactical  But the matchmaker. I can see it prioritizes speed of building a match over restricting the spread. And given I'm in Australian hours on a US server there's probably a smaller pool so the spread is almost always maxed. I see a lot of T4-T8 battles with my Pz IV.

I messed around some more and can somewhat see a role for a fast medium. In maps with a lot of urban clutter being able to take peek shots around buildings, relocate quickly so you are firing from another angle while the heavies/TD's trade blows (and duck away when the turret goes looking for an easy kill) or run away when you are all alone. And there's also the ability to do a scout-like late game rush at enemy arties and TD rears with a better chance of killing them than a scout tank. Like any mid-tier though it's often going to end abruptly.

Some people on the forum seem to like the M4A3E8 but don't like it's armor... whereas on the PZ III/IV they don't like the gun.

[Sheepherder]

So, I was pissed off at the shitty internet I was forced to cope with while the CAT5 between my wireless antenna and my desktop was out.  Solution: if the internet doesn't come to you, go to the internet.  It smells like motor oil in my garage, this seems like an appropriate time to play WoT.

[kildorn]

I'm also a fan of counting cards if you're a medium. At the early stages of the map watch the minimap and see what tanks have been spotted. More importantly: who is still missing. If you can count enough of them early on you can know that the heavy trying to hold down your flank is alone, or that all their high tiers went one side.

[Kageru]

Yeah, and with a fast enough tank you can actually re-located from one side of the battlefield to the other pretty quickly.

[Amarr HM]

For those who don't want to get a premium credit grinder, try the 13-90, it's a decent little moneymaker and can also be quite fun.

[Mortriden]

Another tip to pass along: Pay attention to the freaking mini map!  I don't know how many times I see teamates drive right by an enemy tank thats been spotted and not even notice it.  Sometimes its right behind them and blasting them in the ass and they still don't notice.

I will second this tip.  As someone mentions below, watch the mini-map and learn when to relocate to help a flank that is in trouble.  You can save a match by busting up an enemy team's cap, playing peak-a-boo and tracking their heavy, then scooting away.  This will become incredibly important if you ever drive one of the stupidly slow tanks, Maus, T95, etc. as you will have to really, really anticipate what is going to happen in the match.  This has been really hard for me to learn in my T95 because I am also usually too aggressive. 

[Kageru]

I'm tempted to work up to the 13-90 as a semi-scout, flanker that's actually capable of using the gun it carries around. The T-2-50 is insane but I believe up for replacement and the VK2801 has worse match making, money making / repair costs, weapon and view range while being too slow on the turn (if it's anything like the leopard) to do the jig and weave the T-50 can do. I believe they're up for a nerf in the next patch though.

Reading some threads and studying the matchmaker ranges made me realize why T5 tanks are a sweat spot. Not only do they make money but they avoid having to face T8+ tanks which represent a good jump in power since they're "end-game" tanks. Especially if you move up to a T6 heavy and are suddenly facing T9 and T10 tanks. And probably quite often since the match-maker seems to fill from the top.

PZIV with the top gun is  

[WayAbvPar]

Had a great game last night in my BT-2. Started south on Mines, took the hill, and then sniped my way to 3 kills. This drew A LOT of attention, so I was down to literally 2 hp. I laid low for a minute or so, and saw that my team was actually pulling its weight for once, and we were up like 8-1. Thought 'I wonder if I can get Top Gun with only 2 HP left?'. Snuck around and took out 3 more tanks for TG, then charged up the back shelf there by the N flag to try to get the last cowering bastard. Got a shot off, but my gun was bouncing a bit as I crested, and he killed me. Thankfully my remaining 5 teammates managed to finish him off and I had a nice double.

All downhill from there, unfortunately. That match was in the middle of an 8 match run where the KVM prediction for my team's chances were all sub 40%, with most of them in the low 20s or teens. I think we had a 15% chance in the BT-2 match, and had I not been superhuman for 10 minutes instead of my normal medicore to terrible, we would have gotten trounced. The rest of the night was a trail of tears, and I finally logged off in disgust after getting tracked from the front in my M6 by a PzIII/IV from 250+ yards, then quickly killed by a clanmate who happened to be on the other team and was waiting for me when I tried to get to cover from the Pz. Didn't even get to finish my doubles. That is what I get for playing when I am exhausted and in pain (my goddamned back is giving me trouble again).

[Engels]

Way, you need to tell Garga you ain't pissed at him. We didn't hear you sign off and all he remembers is that he pwnt you bad with his IS.

[WayAbvPar]

Way, you need to tell Garga you ain't pissed at him. We didn't hear you sign off and all he remembers is that he pwnt you bad with his IS.

Will do. I was just super frustrated and realized that if I was that upset, I really needed to not be playing. I HOPED to go to bed and get some sleep, but my children conspired to not make that happen for another 3 hours. Sigh.

[Furiously]

There is something about the game that can make it totally ball busting at times. But I know it loves me...

[WayAbvPar]

 

It just all piled up on me at once. The never-ending string of utterly shit teams was hard enough, then to get miracle-shotted and tracked, try duck into cover and find probably the worst player I could hope for from the other team waiting for me was just too much. If it was just some random dipshit I might have had a chance; once I saw it was an IS (and knew it was a Garga) I was just like 'really?'. And to top it off we were platooned, so I knew I was in for a 10 minute wait before I could start another battle so I just said fuck it for the night. It is amazing how bitchy I get after several days without proper sleep. I can feel the irrationality flowing through me   

Trotski got his new Alienware laptop today, and I am going to force him to come play tanks with us this weekend. I have 4 extra garage slots (thank to the sale!) so I can pick up some lower tier stuff to run with him. If I can force myself out of the BT-2 

[Abagadro]

I think my M6A2E1 crew may be a bit overqualified:

[Merusk]

Just a bit.

I made several million over this last event, I'm very happy.  I'm also glad it struck me "hey dumbass, consumables are on sale.. stock up instead of staring at the balance."   Dur. 

[Engels]

Spent over 2 million on repair and first aid kits, and fire extinguishers. Also ~ 300k on gas for the 59 (makes it run like a 54)

[Merusk]

I bought 100 units of lend-lease for my T-50-2 in addition to assorted repair and fire extinguishers.  I really think I should have spent even more as now that I've used Gas on a few tanks I want to use it more often.   

Fuck, 90% of the time I drive American so if I'm Torched I'm usually almost dead anyway.

[Bandit]

They have announced Tier 10 mediums and TDs. Looks like maybe 7.5 but it will probably slip,

Mediums
RU - T-62A
US - M48A1 Patton
FR - Bat.Chat. 25t(AMX 12t and up will be uptiered, new Tier 5 replacement)
GE - E-50 Ausf. M

Tank Destoyers
RU - Obj. 268
US - T110E3 from T95, T110E4 from T30
FR - AMX 50 Foch
GE - JagdPzE-100

http://forum.worldoftanks.com/index.php?/topic/131183-tier-10-mediums-and-tds-announced/

[Merusk]

12t Uptiered?  My god I get destroyed right now as a Tier V up against 8's.  I don't want to face 9 & 10s in that thing. 

[Ginaz]

12t Uptiered?  My god I get destroyed right now as a Tier V up against 8's.  I don't want to face 9 & 10s in that thing.  

They'll probably buff all the French tanks moving up in tier in some way to bring it in line with its new tier.  At least I hope they do.

I have to say, for a game thats been out for only a year and a bit, they have added quite a lot to it.  One of the reasons I keep playing is to see what's coming next.  The 2 new game modes are what I'm looking forward to most.

[Gets]

New french light won't have an autoloader, because it won't have the turret for it. Although tier10 mediums as envisioned right now will dominate Absolute company battles and Clan Wars. Essentially you can make an argument that all new tanks make the old ones obsolete in their respective tiers.

[WayAbvPar]

Spent over 2 million on repair and first aid kits, and fire extinguishers. Also ~ 300k on gas for the 59 (makes it run like a 54)

Thanks to Abagadro for reminding us! I meant to do it, but would have completely forgot.

[Kageru]

I should do that / should have done that too... those repair kits are nice. Though focusing on Tier V my tanks frequently tend to explode rather than need repairing.

On the positive side a new range of Tier 9 and 10 tanks are something I can happily ignore. Though the guys profit farming in premium tier 8's are possibly not so happy. Something I can easily live with.

[Ginaz]

Victory!
Battle: Province Tuesday, June 12, 2012 12:53:29 AM
Vehicle: PzKpfw 38H735 (f)
Experience received: 1,543
Credits received: 14,311
Battle Achievements: Steel Wall, Top Gun


Fun little tank I take out when I start to lose too many games in a row.  Notice the 62 hits I received and I still had about 35 hp left.

[Amarr HM]

It was a lot better before the nerf 

[WayAbvPar]

I finally bought a couple of the Tier III and IV German tanks I had unlocked. I got tired of losing to them, so I thought I would try the other side of the coin 

[Kageru]

I really had forgotten how silly the matchmaker is. So many battles determined by how well your higher order tanks go modified only slightly by the rest of the team. Still it makes sense commercially and the developer seems to have equaled CCP in the "deal with it" stakes.

PzIV, SU-8 can contribute even if over-tiered, as can artillery (Got the Hummel, 1K shells, long aim, erratic results and fast scouts reduce my enthusiasm). The tier V flanking tank, not so much, the PZIII doesn't have enough armor, speed, view range or small profile to play really aggressively and when you find a gap the gun is unimposing or the T-50's have gotten their first. Given the PvIII/IV has a similar gun I'm dubious it will be fun.

The leopard seems totally outclassed by the T-50, as the VK2801 seems to be by the insane handling on the T-50-2. Looks like hella fun though.

So heading up to explore the french light line which can be a light tank without being an "end game scout". Oddly enough really enjoying the AMX40 "Iron duck". So slow, but finding a nice rock for arty protection and waiting to give fast scouts a 75mm HE surprise is hilarious. Can even frustrate the hell out of mediums if the armor gods smile upon me (just got my first steel-wall in fact, with 4 arty pounding shells into my cover).

[WayAbvPar]

7.4 Patch Notes (going live today on Russian servers, and next week in NA, or so I have read)-


Lots of interesting stuff there. Wonder if I have the patience to reacquire my 12t to grind into French arty...

[Pendan]

The leopard seems totally outclassed by the T-50, as the VK2801 seems to be by the insane handling on the T-50-2.

While I agree overall the T-50 is a better tank to use than a leopard, the leopard is the best tier 4 tank to counter the T-50. The T-50's agility makes it better for dodging the higher level tanks you almost always have. The speed, gun, and armor of the leopard allow it to fight T-50s well however. The same is true of the VK2801 versus the T-50-2. Devs say the T-50-2 is getting replaced because it does not match reality of the real tank at all. Don't know if they going to change the T-50.

I was on a team that finished in top 4 in Skirmish I which was 7 tier 4 tanks. We used 5 tds and 2 T-50. The team we lost to in semi-finals, SIMP, used 5 t-50 and 2 tds. We lost 3 games to 2. SIMP then lost 3 games to 1 in the finals to a -G- team that used leopards to fight the t-50s.

[WayAbvPar]

New Special coming tomorrow-
http://worldoftanks.com/news/1349-finest-hour-special-churchill/

Tankers!

In honor of the "Finest Hour" speech made by Winston Churchill in 1940, and to celebrate the anniversary of the first A22 Churchill rolling off the line way back in June of 1941, we are offering a limited time reduced price and increased credit income for this tank, as well as a 3x experience bonus for all tanks on the first victory of every day during the special.

This special will start on June 15, 2012 at 04:30 PDT (11:30 UTC) and run through 04:00 PDT (11:00 UTC)  on June 19, 2012.  Curious what time this is in your region? Use this handy Time Zone Converter to help you out.

Discount on Churchill:

    50% discount on the gold price of the Churchill

Experience Bonus for all Tanks:

    x3 experience for the first victory of the day in all tanks

Increased credit income for Churchill:

    100% bonus, the Churchill will earn double the normal credits

Please note that selling the above-mentioned vehicle during the special will return 50% of the normal sale price as credits.

Be sure to take advantage of this special as the bonuses and discount will end on June 19, 2012 at 04:00 PDT.

I don't think I can put off buying a Churchill any longer!

[Kageru]

So, as I understand it, they've announced they are going to re-jig the french light line but it's not going to be part of 7.4? Can't see it on any of the patch notes or any forum discussion, but the forums are mostly focused on end-game tanks. Think I don't have to rush to the AMX 12t.

I think I've shot at some T-50's in my leopard and they're still hard to hit (with 300ms latency of course) and can take a couple of shots, but I'm happy to have a shoot out with something I can hurt. It's more endless PUG games with high tier tanks where you are trying to be a scout. I think it's a pretty marginal role unless you are an expert player and know every bush and curve on the map but the ability of the T-50/T-50-2 to get into cover or get away when spotted is pretty impressive. Watching one of the crazy buggers weaving a course through the enemy lines and knowing the leopard can't do that (loses just so much speed on the turn, easily tracked, and much bigger profile) inspires jealousy.

That said if I'm going to have a vehicle to combine passive scouting and having a gun that might matter I'll experiment with the french lights. AMX13/75 is probably cheaper to repair and more fun than a VK2801.

From what I've read the T-50 is considered fine and the T-50-2 is being replaced by a wheeled scout tank model, but again not for 7.4.

[Abagadro]

Gotta post this considering it was on freaking Himmelsdorf in an arty:

 Battle: Himmelsdorf Thursday, June 14, 2012 6:00:46 PM
Vehicle: M40/M43 Experience received: 4,026 (x2 for the first victory each day)
Credits received: 51,493
Battle Achievements: Mastery Badge: Ace Tanker, Defender, Top Gun

Took out an IS8, IS4, Type 59 and Type 54 in my own cap (from the cap mind you, not from across map). Also bombed a 95 and IS3 on the other side of the map.

[WayAbvPar]

Holy shit. TD style?