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WayAbvPar
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4 and 5 seem to be the worst, since you start getting hauled up into as high as Tier 9 fights. Only have one Tier 6 so far, but it seems to get mid-tier battles at least as often as bottom tank, which happens with depressing regularity with Tier V. Of course, I have a sub .500 record with it, which I blame on bad teammates and my own struggle to find the right playstyle for it. Unlocking the big engine for it only to discover I can't mount it until I unlock the better suspension was a kick in the sack too.
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Tmon
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4 and 5 seem to be the worst, since you start getting hauled up into as high as Tier 9 fights. Only have one Tier 6 so far, but it seems to get mid-tier battles at least as often as bottom tank, which happens with depressing regularity with Tier V. Of course, I have a sub .500 record with it, which I blame on bad teammates and my own struggle to find the right playstyle for it. Unlocking the big engine for it only to discover I can't mount it until I unlock the better suspension was a kick in the sack too.
I remember tier IV and VI as the hell levels. The worst thing about tier IV was that in order to get to tier V mediums you had to play through a tier IV light of some flavor. The bad part about that is that tier IV lights are all considered to be scouts and can be put in any tier IV+ match regardless of their actual suitability for scouting. Wargaming has stated that they are reworking what tanks are flagged as scouts so as to make it a bit more bearable but it's pretty far down on their priority list. Tier VI just plain sucks on the US server due to low populations overall, this means that most of the time you end up in matches on the upper side of your battle tier instead of on the lower end. Most of the time you should just plan on unlocking the tracks first, it saves a lot of heartache. Also, 7.4 is on public test. The French TD and SPG lines are out plus the IS-6 Soviet tier 8 Heavy premium and the Jagdtiger with the long 88 German premium are also out. The two new battle modes are kinda fun but since it's test and everybody is running around in French TDs and arty with a sprinkling of the new Premium tanks it's hard to say how they will play out on live. |
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Ginaz
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4 and 5 seem to be the worst, since you start getting hauled up into as high as Tier 9 fights. Only have one Tier 6 so far, but it seems to get mid-tier battles at least as often as bottom tank, which happens with depressing regularity with Tier V. Of course, I have a sub .500 record with it, which I blame on bad teammates and my own struggle to find the right playstyle for it. Unlocking the big engine for it only to discover I can't mount it until I unlock the better suspension was a kick in the sack too.
I remember tier IV and VI as the hell levels. The worst thing about tier IV was that in order to get to tier V mediums you had to play through a tier IV light of some flavor. The bad part about that is that tier IV lights are all considered to be scouts and can be put in any tier IV+ match regardless of their actual suitability for scouting. Wargaming has stated that they are reworking what tanks are flagged as scouts so as to make it a bit more bearable but it's pretty far down on their priority list. Tier VI just plain sucks on the US server due to low populations overall, this means that most of the time you end up in matches on the upper side of your battle tier instead of on the lower end. Most of the time you should just plan on unlocking the tracks first, it saves a lot of heartache. Also, 7.4 is on public test. The French TD and SPG lines are out plus the IS-6 Soviet tier 8 Heavy premium and the Jagdtiger with the long 88 German premium are also out. The two new battle modes are kinda fun but since it's test and everybody is running around in French TDs and arty with a sprinkling of the new Premium tanks it's hard to say how they will play out on live. I'm more excited about the new game modes than the new French tanks. However, I am looking forward to the addition of the British tanks in 7.5(?). |
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WayAbvPar
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I am terrible at this game. Especially driving the AMX 13_75. My win record in it is abysmal (now 11-20). I blame most of this on my utter incompetence, but some on the the matchmaker constantly putting me in battles I have almost no chance of being useful. It is stock except for upgraded tracks and engine, so I can't penetrate shit. It is basically a scout. On the odd battle when I do get a semi-favorable matchup, I manage to fuck up and get myself tracked/killed almost instantly. SO FRUSTRATING.
Going to try to add some equipment to make it marginally more useful. Any suggestions? Optics maybe?
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« Last Edit: June 01, 2012, 09:43:11 AM by WayAbvPar »
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kildorn
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I usually run coated optics and .. vents? I think. I'd need to look again.
The 13x series are brutal little flankers and skirmishers with huge view ranges and high speed. But they're not really as dangerous now that people got over the gun and learned to just track the damned things. You're an early game scout (not a damned suicide scout, either. Light things up then run the fuck home) and a mid/late game destroyer of worlds. It's awesome once the front lines disintegrate to the point where you can roll around the flanks and pop a few rounds in the sides of mostly dead heavies and TDs.
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satael
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Just find your niche, higher tier tank isn't always more fun to play. I'm happy to stick to just playing with a slugger (tier 6 american td) and not even considering buying the next one (t-25, but that's partly since i like a turret on my td).
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Abagadro
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Get the m18 then, you'll like it.
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WayAbvPar
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Just find your niche, higher tier tank isn't always more fun to play. I'm happy to stick to just playing with a slugger (tier 6 american td) and not even considering buying the next one (t-25, but that's partly since i like a turret on my td).
I have more fun in the lower tiers as a rule, but almost no one in my clan has low tiers to run with me. Playing solo isn't nearly as fun as playing with people on comms (especially since they are very helpful if I happen to miraculously survive longer than they do....they watch over my shoulder and give me pointers. Have learned a ton from this!). I am too ADD with my grinding as well- trying to advance EVERYTHING makes me spazz around and never get anywhere. I also need to really learn patience. I can't stand sitting still, so I end up charging ahead and getting killed. I also have a bad tendency to want to help the team over my individual stats, so I do semi-suicidal things like cover an open flank ALONE because everyone on my team went another way, or try to flank around after a breakthrough only to see everyone else sitting goddamned still, which results in me getting flanked myself. |
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kildorn
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I have issues playing heavies. I keep trying it, and failing hard at playing things you can't flank effectively with.
Though I DID flank four tanks with my t28p the other night. Which should never happen, and will give you an idea of how lopsided that match was.
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Abagadro
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Way, I have some extra cash so pick a tier and I'll get one to run with you.
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Tmon
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Get the m18 then, you'll like it.
T49 and M18 are exactly what the original US TD doctrine called for, mobile hard hitting tank killers. The important thing to remember is that the mobility comes at the expense of armor and is for getting to good positions and setting up an ambushes, not leading the attack. Charging in like a jackass who thinks he's in a t50-2 is not an optimal use of your td, you are fragile, have a slow turret and turn like a hog on ice. That said, there are times especially late in the match when you can pull off a useful and fairly nasty arty raid. Normally your best bet is to get to a good position, take your shots and be ready to redeploy as the situation dictates, your speed can frequently get you across the map or back to the cap in time to stave off a disaster so don't waste it on useless death charges in the first minute. |
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kildorn
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I actually use my m18 for the initial lights on a flank, then use it to pop out of fucking everywhere and take pot shots at anything out of position. The fucker's fast enough to be in the scouting spots before the mediums show up, you just can't play aggressive scout because you can't turn to save your life and your acceleration is somewhat poor from any dead stops. But running forward and peeking over a hill and running back is a great way to let your flank know what to expect early on.
I see some people sit their 18s in a bush with high camo, but that's never been how I play the entire US turreted TD line.
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Way, I have some extra cash so pick a tier and I'll get one to run with you.
I have tons of stuff in III and IV, and a couple in V (M7 and T1 HT). If you have anything near those, I would love some company (and some pointers!). Engels has been running his German TDs with me, and just picked up an M8A1 as well- we have had some fun when the MM doesn't dump us in a Tier VII or VIII match  . The other problem with running low tier stuff is it doesn't make any money, and I need lots of that for new tanks and new equipment and such. The Type 59 that Fur bestowed upon me is great for that, but it gets old after a while, plus it is not getting me any closer to being useful by way of advancement (save for 5% free XP per match). I think tonight I will work on getting through my M7 and T1 HT to give me a couple more tier VI options. I really want a Lorraine (and eventually a Bat Chat) though, dammit. |
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Abagadro
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I'll grab a T-28 and maybe a PzIV and we can mess around. I'm even willing to take my BT-2 out for a spin with your tier III stuff if you want as its one of my favorite tanks. Tooning with small tier stuff is tough though because the toon bonus throws you into too high of matches.
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WayAbvPar
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I didn't realize that just being a platoon did that..interesting. That would account for a lot of the MM fuckery we seem to get. Maybe we can get in a quiet channel and count down  |
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Engels
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I didn't realize that just being a platoon did that..interesting. That would account for a lot of the MM fuckery we seem to get. Maybe we can get in a quiet channel and count down Was it last night that we ended up in a tier 9 match with tier IV? On Murovanka, I think it was. We rushed middle in protest, and actually had fun for 20 seconds. |
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WayAbvPar
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Haha yep. I actually got a couple of shots off on the run, but a TD isn't all that accurate in that situation.
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When speaking of the MMOG industry, the glass may be half full, but it's full of urine. HaemishM
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Tmon
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I didn't realize that just being a platoon did that..interesting. That would account for a lot of the MM fuckery we seem to get. Maybe we can get in a quiet channel and count down Was it last night that we ended up in a tier 9 match with tier IV? On Murovanka, I think it was. We rushed middle in protest, and actually had fun for 20 seconds. What tier 4s were you in? There is no platoon bonus, you just get matched based on the battle tier of the highest tank in the platoon. The wiki explains how it works http://wiki.worldoftanks.com/Battle_Mechanics#PlatoonsThe thing about battle tier is that it is not equal to vehicle tier all tier IV non-premium light tanks (except the AMX40 which goes to 8) match up to battle tier 10 so they can see tier 9 heavies, tier 9 tds, and tier 6 arty. Understanding battle tier can make platooning a lot less frustrating. |
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Kageru
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Just find your niche, higher tier tank isn't always more fun to play. I'm happy to stick to just playing with a slugger (tier 6 american td) and not even considering buying the next one (t-25, but that's partly since i like a turret on my td).
Yeah, I plan on finding a sweet spot and staying there since I'm not convinced the game-play automatically gets better as you climb higher. Tier V looks very sweet. Hummel, SU-85, KV-1, Pzkpfw III/IV and IV plus a VK2801 would give me a nice garage to play with. Maybe take one or two up to tier VI if the tank is more fun and doesn't get slapped down by the matchmaker, perhaps the VK3601H. |
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Furiously
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I personally find tier eight to be a nice sweet spot. You can still make money. You will sometimes be top tank. You can pen everything above you if you shoot right.
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Yeah, I plan on finding a sweet spot and staying there since I'm not convinced the game-play automatically gets better as you climb higher. Tier V looks very sweet. Hummel, SU-85, KV-1, Pzkpfw III/IV and IV plus a VK2801 would give me a nice garage to play with. Maybe take one or two up to tier VI if the tank is more fun and doesn't get slapped down by the matchmaker, perhaps the VK3601H.
Try a Marder II. It's only a tier 3, but It's able to reliably pen anything that it's in a match with, which will be tier 5 at the highest. The only two tanks you even have to really watch where you aim is on Churchils and KV-1s. I have to say I've gone back to lower tier tanks and am having a much more fun. It seems the higher the tier the more serious business people get and the dick factor just explodes. Plus, a lot of the tanks I thought were crappy are actually pretty good with a 100% crew in them. Right now all i'm playing is the two french premiums, the marder, and a Pzkpfw IV. The Pzkpfw IV is a much more impressive tank with a fully trained crew in it than I remembered. Unfortunately it gets thrown into matches that it just doesn't belong in too often. I'm thinking of trying a lower tier tank with one of the crazy machine gun cannons and see what it's like with a 100% crew and some mods. |
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I think it varies from nation to nation tbh. German Tier 5, Russian Tier 8, USA Tier 7 are where my fave tanks are.
France I don't know, I'm at tier 6 & 7 atm and still hate them...
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Sheepherder
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I'll noob it up with you Way, whenever I repair my connection to an ISP that doesn't suck dick.
Also, as Abagadro pointed out, the BT-2 is possibly the most fun tank in the game.
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Kageru
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Yeah, I plan on finding a sweet spot and staying there since I'm not convinced the game-play automatically gets better as you climb higher. Tier V looks very sweet. Hummel, SU-85, KV-1, Pzkpfw III/IV and IV plus a VK2801 would give me a nice garage to play with. Maybe take one or two up to tier VI if the tank is more fun and doesn't get slapped down by the matchmaker, perhaps the VK3601H.
Try a Marder II. It's only a tier 3, but It's able to reliably pen anything that it's in a match with, which will be tier 5 at the highest. The only two tanks you even have to really watch where you aim is on Churchils and KV-1s. I have to say I've gone back to lower tier tanks and am having a much more fun. It seems the higher the tier the more serious business people get and the dick factor just explodes. Plus, a lot of the tanks I thought were crappy are actually pretty good with a 100% crew in them. Right now all i'm playing is the two french premiums, the marder, and a Pzkpfw IV. The Pzkpfw IV is a much more impressive tank with a fully trained crew in it than I remembered. Unfortunately it gets thrown into matches that it just doesn't belong in too often. I'm thinking of trying a lower tier tank with one of the crazy machine gun cannons and see what it's like with a 100% crew and some mods. I'm finding the Tank Destroyers and Artillery do better in higher tier match-ups. More big, slow and not entirely invulnerable tanks to shoot at. The SU-85, even without the biggest gun, is proving to be quite a little money spinner, the artillery would be too if it wasn't for the ammo being costly. I also ended up enjoying eliting the Pzkpfw III Ausf. A because once it's geared up it's fast and punchy but more importantly isn't classed as a "scout" like the Pzkpfw 38na. That tank is broken, I get beaten to the bushes I want to hide in by enemy TD's, mediums and real scouts who move as fast and have a greater view distance. So most of my play experience has been zooming around a corner and suddenly exploding which tends to cut down on the XP intake. I really want the Pzkpfw IV, sniping into melee suits me. |
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Tmon
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I think it varies from nation to nation tbh. German Tier 5, Russian Tier 8, USA Tier 7 are where my fave tanks are.
France I don't know, I'm at tier 6 & 7 atm and still hate them...
I had fun with the 13/75 and 13/90 but gave up and sold my French tanks(both medium and heavy) at tier 8 they just weren't fun for me. Lately I play mostly in my M4a2e4 (Beta gift premium), French premium tier 3 TD, Panther II, Tiger and Lowe. I play the other 14 or so tanks I own as needed to match up with the people I platoon. I sold off a bunch of tanks that I decided weren't fun or went up lines that I didn't care about. |
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Bandit
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This game is like golf sometimes, you have rounds like these that keep you coming back.... Victory!
Battle: Dragon Ridge Saturday, June 02, 2012 11:15:45 PM
Vehicle: PzKpfw VI Tiger (P)
Experience received: 3,854 (x2 for the first victory each day)
Credits received: 52,365
Battle Achievements: Mastery Badge: Ace Tanker, Master Gunner, Confederate, Sniper, Invader Put my Tiger P crew over 100% as a bonus as well. |
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Nebu
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My experience recently has been the complete opposite.
Load game.
Log on my tier 7 medium. Bounce 10-12 shots off of tier 9 and 10 tanks and get insta-gibbed when I peek a nanometer of my tank around a corner.
Log in my T-50 light to scout and get tracked by the first shot anyone takes. Get 1-shot by the second.
Log on my tier 6 TD and get 2 shot by a tier 9 that I couldn't see.
Log off and go to the driving range.
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Ginaz
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Operation Overlord Special coming on 6 June: "Tankers!
This Wednesday will mark the 68th anniversary of the commencement of Operation Overlord; more commonly known as D-Day. This operation launched the invasion of Germany and was entirely devoted to securing the beachhead for future Allied manuevers. Though the Allies took significant losses, the operation was a success. From this position the Allies were able to begin the liberation of France.
Starting at 04:30 PDT (11:30 UTC) on June 6, 2012 and lasting until 04:00 PDT on June 11, 2012 (11:00 UTC) the following discounts and bonuses will be active. Curious what time this is in your region? Use this handy Time Zone Converter to help you out.
50% discount on garage slots
50% discount on consumables purchased with Credits
Crew training rate increased by x2
Discount on Premium Account time:
3 days for 250 gold
7 days for 650 gold
50% discount on the credit cost of:
PzKpfw IV
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T1 Heavy
M6
T29
Increased Credit income 2x:
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T1 Heavy
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50% discount on premium vehicles:
Ram-II
Matilda
Please note that selling the above-mentioned vehicles during the special will return 50% of their current sale price.
Be sure to take advantage of these discounts and bonuses while they last. On June 11, 2012 the above-mentioned items will return to normal price!"http://worldoftanks.com/news/1332-operation-overlord-special/I'll probably pick up the T29 again. Its a pretty beastly tank for its tier. If anyone has some extra gold they want to use, I highly recommend the Matilda. Its slow and its gun is meh but I've done really well with it and it can mow through tier 5 and below tanks. |
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Merusk
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OOoh.. double credits on my favorite US heavies. Sweet.
So if I switch on premium I get 4x credits, right? Then the first win of each day would be 8x?
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Bandit
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First win is double xp I believe, not double credits.... In addition, Premium is a 50% xp/credit bonus. Premium.. 50% more experience per battle
50% more crew experience per battle
50% more credits earned in a battle
opportunity to create a platoon of 3
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Just had a monster game in my T1 HT...1600+ XP non-doubled, with 7 kills. Unfortunately not enough Tier IVs and above for my first Boelter's  This special is perfect timing for me...should be able to grind through the rest of T1 HT (getting extra credits all the way!) and get into an M6. |
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I just free XP'd my way to the T29, little slow but love the gun.
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I'm going to escape, come back, wipe this place off the face of the Earth, obliterate it and you with it.
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Furiously
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32 is an amazing tank. I never play mine cause the 34 gets me 3x the credits.
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Ginaz
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Just picked up the IS-7 today. I can see why its been so popular for so long. I don't think I've ever had a tank bounce so many shots before. Two E-75s in front of me playing peekaboo around a corner. Both of them kept bouncing their shots and I managed to bring them both down to half HP until help arrived to finish them off. I'm liking the IS-7 MUCH more than the IS-4. It rewards the aggressive way I play more than any other tank I've played. On a side note, I'm almost at 1500 efficiency (1498, and 99.99% solo pubs), which supposedly means I'm "great" and puts me in the top 3% of players. I hardly feel that I'm anything other than slightly above average (due mostly to experience with the game) but after seeing people with 10k, 15k and 20k+ games having ratings below 900, or "below average", it makes me wonder. How does anyone play that many games and still be so bad???  |
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How does anyone play that many games and still be so bad??? I'll let you know in a couple of months.  |
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