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Reply #35 on: March 26, 2009, 11:30:22 AM

Barnett offered tips to aspiring creative directors, before settling on the topic of how the gaming industry, by way of new technologies such as the iPhone, has begun to resemble the rebellious days of punk rock, and no one saw it coming.


Not to drag politics into this, but this seriously sounds about as out of touch as Michael Steele saying he wanted to give the GOP hip hop makeover.  Cowabunga dudes.
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Reply #36 on: March 26, 2009, 11:35:42 AM

This guy has a great future at OnLive.
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Reply #37 on: March 26, 2009, 11:54:59 AM

How could it be possible for me to have any less respect for Paul Barnett? Just reading that article makes me want to stomp on his nuts with a steamroller.

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Reply #38 on: March 26, 2009, 11:58:25 AM

Every time I read about him I keep thinking about the Biggest Douche in the Universe South Park episode.  John Edward versus Paul Barnett- tough call, but I think Paul's recent body of work gives the hardware to him.

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Reply #39 on: March 26, 2009, 12:01:27 PM

Every time I read about him I keep thinking about the Biggest Douche in the Universe South Park episode.  John Edward versus Paul Barnett- tough call, but I think Paul's recent body of work gives the hardware to him.

Funny, I'd bee-line straight towards the Biggest Shit in the World/Bono episode.
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Reply #40 on: March 26, 2009, 01:13:56 PM

Gaming now has its very own Carrot Top.

I don't think a guy being a giant dick really qualifies him as a prop comic. This dude is just a tool.

I was gonna post something put this pretty much hits it on the mark.  I'd say doesn't his company have a leash or something to tether him to, but Mythic actually encourages this gibberish passed off as off the wall creativity.

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Reply #41 on: March 26, 2009, 02:44:38 PM

so he winged it.  Nice.
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Reply #42 on: March 26, 2009, 02:53:50 PM

GDC is expensive, if you only go to 8 talks and aren't press, you just spent a few hundred dollars listening to this giant asshole.

Fuck, I want to publicly embarrass him to the point of industry blacklisting. What a dick.
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Reply #43 on: March 26, 2009, 03:17:53 PM

This guy has a great future at OnLive.

It almost sounds like he is advertising for something like this. Doing the math 7400 games is a fuck ton even over a 10-15 year span.
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Reply #44 on: March 26, 2009, 03:19:40 PM

Was John Romero on first to warm the audience up?
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Reply #45 on: March 26, 2009, 04:03:16 PM

This guy has a great future at OnLive.

It almost sounds like he is advertising for something like this. Doing the math 7400 games is a fuck ton even over a 10-15 year span.

and there's no way to refute that or prove it. 

he doesn't strike me as the kind of guy who keeps good records of anything,  So this is just more grandstanding.  Pure hyperbole.


Edit: reality
10 yrs * 365 days/years * 24hrs/day = 87,600 hrs

87,600 hrs / 7400 games = ~12 hrs / game absolute time.

10 yrs * 365 days/years * 14hrs/day = 51,100 hrs

51,100 hrs / 7400 games = ~7 hrs / hardcore game time 24x7...

BS utter BS.
« Last Edit: March 26, 2009, 04:26:25 PM by Soln »
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Reply #46 on: March 26, 2009, 04:06:33 PM

We could work backwards and rule out games he doesn't appear to have played, then count the remaining.

1. WoW
2. WAR
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Reply #47 on: March 26, 2009, 04:24:56 PM

Well-played, nerd. Well-played.

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Reply #48 on: March 26, 2009, 05:17:25 PM

This guy makes me want to bring back Raging Douchebag week. I already found the Mark Jacobs banner for that.
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Reply #49 on: March 26, 2009, 05:20:24 PM

Lum seems to have yanked a critical but professional post about this.  Lum, think of the children!
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Reply #50 on: March 26, 2009, 05:21:42 PM

Lum seems to have yanked a critical but professional post about this.  Lum, think of the children!
Barnett doesn't deserve the attention we give him let alone the attention of other developers.

Also, Nintendo is thinking of the children. No one else needs to.
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Reply #51 on: March 26, 2009, 06:42:08 PM

Jeff Hickman and Paul Barnett Interviewed at the 2009 New York Comic Con

Quote from: Paul Barnett
@7 minutes 19 seconds
"We don't want everyone to play Warhammer."

WAR finally makes sense.

Interview Part two
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Reply #52 on: March 26, 2009, 07:22:10 PM

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This idea dovetailed into one of the key points of his session. Game design theory is very complicated, he said, because people are over-thinking the problem. "Theories in design are as timeless as the fashion of hats," he said.

1. He should go visit some people and Blizzard and learn just how much hard work and professionalism actually goes in to making money hats.

2. Imaging any output he might have as a milliner is amusing.

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Reply #53 on: March 26, 2009, 07:23:18 PM

Everytime he grabs the mic I cringe

Quote from: Paul Barnett
In 12 years we will have a gamer president...

Jeff Kaplan owes me money

Edit: He has a tirade on claims that there should be developer credit on games not companies... Wasn't there some spat with IGDA with a game like this.  swamp poop
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Reply #54 on: March 26, 2009, 07:59:41 PM

In previous Barnett-related discussions, we've wondered about his professionalism.

So, in a public address organised to help promote his studio (and hence, publisher) among other game developers, he:

 - tells people he doesn't want to be here and is being forced to talk
 - answers his mobile on stage (gag or not)
 - doesn't stick to the topic
 - bags the idea of working with large companies (my e.g. EA)
 - indicates that people can't be creative and business-minded, despite there being evidence otherwise
 - talks about himself for the majority of the talk
 - thinks the future is in small indie games, using only the most successful examples
 - compares the future of game development to punk, indicating his awareness of punk's origins is incredibly spotty

This is exactly what I'd do if I'd already been given my pink slip. Or expected to be receiving one soon.

Oh, and also:

 - didn't talk at all about Warhammer, despite that being his field of 'expertise' that got him onto the stage in the first place

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Reply #55 on: March 26, 2009, 08:24:24 PM

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Reply #56 on: March 26, 2009, 08:49:28 PM

I don't think I've ever read an interview or seen a video of him where I couldn't have mistaken him for a ranting drugged up bum that had in wandered off the street.

Speaking of which, it's a wonder you haven't update your avatard from this very thread.
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Reply #57 on: March 26, 2009, 08:50:09 PM

Jeff Hickman and Paul Barnett Interviewed at the 2009 New York Comic Con

Quote from: Paul Barnett
@7 minutes 19 seconds
"We don't want everyone to play Warhammer."

WAR finally makes sense.

Interview Part two

"We don't want everyone anyone to play Warhammer."


A FUCKING COMPANY IS AT STEAK
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Reply #58 on: March 26, 2009, 09:45:47 PM

Unreal. Well, I can at least say that he always surprises me, no matter how low I set my expectations.
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Reply #59 on: March 26, 2009, 10:37:32 PM

I'm beginning to suspect that the whole WAR/Mythic thing is a plot to bring down EA from within.

I mean, there aren't clownshoes big enough for these cats otherwise.
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Reply #60 on: March 26, 2009, 10:48:56 PM


Seems reasonable. Surely people went to that talk primarily for the comedy and drama. I can't imagine you'd go there to find out how to make a successful MMORPG from him. I didn't expect him to rise to the challenge quite so impressively though.

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Reply #61 on: March 27, 2009, 01:38:03 AM

You know the humour is escaping me.

We're at the start of what has the potential to be the worst recession in history, millions of people are losing their jobs. I personaly know 4 professional, hard-working, intelligent people who are now unemployed and facing poverty through no fault of their own. And this idiotic, childish, contemptuous clown who blatantly fails at his job and seems to have no humility or shame about that whatsoever is still earning enough money to give a lot of real people real jobs?

What a wanker.

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Reply #62 on: March 27, 2009, 04:53:35 AM

You know the humour is escaping me.

We're at the start of what has the potential to be the worst recession in history, millions of people are losing their jobs. I personaly know 4 professional, hard-working, intelligent people who are now unemployed and facing poverty through no fault of their own. And this idiotic, childish, contemptuous clown who blatantly fails at his job and seems to have no humility or shame about that whatsoever is still earning enough money to give a lot of real people real jobs?

What a wanker.

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Reply #63 on: March 27, 2009, 09:40:27 AM

That pudgy fuck is as punk rock as Pat Boone.
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Reply #64 on: March 27, 2009, 12:02:25 PM

The VN board is ripping him a new ass. No sympathy at all anymore. It's damn funny. I wonder what the official boards are saying.
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Reply #65 on: March 27, 2009, 12:53:11 PM

The VN board is ripping him a new ass. No sympathy at all anymore. It's damn funny. I wonder what the official boards are saying.

Do you really care? I mean, really?
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Reply #66 on: March 27, 2009, 01:09:19 PM

Warhammer Alliance forums have a post titled "Losing interest" and there are no fanbois coming to defend the game.  It appears even the hardcore WAR fans are beginning to give in as well. 

I'm not surprised, but it is interesting to see diehard fans slowly lose their ability to defend the game. 

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Reply #67 on: March 27, 2009, 02:17:31 PM

Warhammer Alliance forums have a post titled "Losing interest" and there are no fanbois coming to defend the game.  It appears even the hardcore WAR fans are beginning to give in as well. 

I'm not surprised, but it is interesting to see diehard fans slowly lose their ability to defend the game. 

Yeah I've noticed that as well.  I always kind of think of those people as the St. Judes of lost MMOs, I'm surprised there's been so little retention for them in WAR.
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Reply #68 on: March 27, 2009, 03:03:45 PM

Warhammer Alliance forums have a post titled "Losing interest" and there are no fanbois coming to defend the game.  It appears even the hardcore WAR fans are beginning to give in as well. 

I'm not surprised, but it is interesting to see diehard fans slowly lose their ability to defend the game. 

Yeah I've noticed that as well.  I always kind of think of those people as the St. Judes of lost MMOs, I'm surprised there's been so little retention for them in WAR.

I think they have watched how the DAOC faithful got rewarded for supportiing and sticking up for Mythic over the years with Origins, just like they asked for.  awesome, for real

-Barnett's blog on that conference is pretty self engrossing.  Railing against EA for making him do actual work, just like the PR aides that he makes hold his bags and get coffee.  To quote Curly Howard: "Why... the noive of dat guy!"
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Reply #69 on: March 27, 2009, 03:17:05 PM

Link please. I have a sneaking suspicion that we might be watching the beginning of the end for this clown. I sort of want to watch with unrestrained glee as it slowly snowballs while he keeps shouting about PUNK ROCK as his checks bounce.
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