Mass Effect 2 *spoilers around pg 29/30*

[Sjofn]

Also, Miranda has rabbit teeth. I know that is the most shallow complaint possible, but I can't stop staring at them.

It does make me marvel at how pants-on-head special the Alliance/Council is that Cerberus is our only hope against the Collectors. Every scene I had with the zomgsaved Council (as LADYSHEP, my "real" MANSHEP let them eat it), I wondered why the hell I bothered with their stupid asses (which I am sure is intended, of course). It's nice to see that the turian guy is still a dickhead, though. He is a rock.

[Hoax]

So, question -- anyone ever just left Geth or Grunt canned, and then gone ahead with the suicide mission?

I'm curious what happens. Heck, I'm curious what happens when the ship gets invaded and there's an unactivated Geth and a Krogan-in-a-tank aboard.

I've done 3 playthroughs and I've never let the Krogan out of his tank. I fucking hate Krogans, I killed the bastard in the first game and I've never looked back. I constantly reinforce the genocide programmes against them when given the chance.

He sits there in the tank, you can go check on him and occasionally someone asks about him but after awhile he gets forgotten about. Final mission goes on as normal without him.

[Ratman_tf]

I fucking hate Krogans,

  They used to breed like rabbits and continually poke everyone with sticks. And now they're all bitchy because the other races pushed back? Fucking whiners.

[UnSub]

I can see the argument of "we need to investigate their tech so we are BETTER PREPARED," but these guys are way too terrible at their jobs for me to take the risk. How many side quests dealing with Cerberus end up being "Whoops, our bad! We accidently made something terrible happen mucking with shit beyond our comprehension." I think it might be ALL OF THEM.

True, but it appears that they are the only group even trying.

The Council annoys me on the grounds that in what appears to be a generally intelligent universe, they apparently exist to 1) ignore Shepherds' warnings and 2) constantly ignore the problems of human colonies in the Terminus System.

Of course, Shepherd suffers from being always right (right up to the final mission, of course) which doesn't help the Council's position.

[Fabricated]

Man there's a lot of cut audio in ME2.

This is a pretty cool, longer version of Harbinger's speech from the end of the game.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HYJYfx9PtKw&feature=related

Gives you a bit clearer message of their intentions for humanity at least.

[Azuredream]

I chose to keep the collector ship, I don't care about indoctrination or whatever, if I found some superadvanced dangerous technology in RL I wouldn't be destroying it. Since it's one of three (?) endings and thousands of people will have also picked that ending, Bioware's not about to drop a bridge on you because you didn't blow it up.

Miranda was also my favorite character, I must be broken. I wanted her hairstyle on my femshep but you can't even mod it on. I don't understand why Bioware didn't give you a wider variety of hairstyles for your characters. Long hair might not be practical, but this is a video game, who cares?

[Stormwaltz]

Man there's a lot of cut audio in ME2.

I'm curious - was all the cut dialogue from Legion acquisition on the disc? There was a boss at the end who had about two dozen ambient lines to spout. He tells you the story of the derelict Reaper, and its name.

[Fabricated]

Man there's a lot of cut audio in ME2.

I'm curious - was all the cut dialogue from Legion acquisition on the disc? There was a boss at the end who had about two dozen ambient lines to spout. He tells you the story of the derelict Reaper, and its name.

I don't think anyone has found anything like that yet. Basically a few specific people on youtube used edited savegames and hacks to get the majority of the missing dialog out of the game while in game. I don't know if anyone has really tried ripping the game's files apart yet.

Looking around here is basically what people have found:
-Squad reactions to almost literally everything in the game, including all missions that you only run in the final game with specific squadmates. I.E. Legion/Tali/Samara/Thane's reactions to Garrus' Recruitment mission, Mordin's Recruitment mission, Horizon, etc.

-Some cut squad conflict between Mordin and Grunt. Wonder why this was cut? Too many inter-squad fights already? I guess between Legion/Tali and Miranda/Jack, if they added more you'd be breaking up a fight every time you got back to the Normandy towards the end of the game.

-Various lines from Harbinger apparently, both in combat with controlled units and other ambient stuff.

-Conrad Verner's Paragon lines. Why the hell wasn't this fixed in a patch by the way?

Why was the dead reaper stuff cut? Too much of a plotdump?

[Stormwaltz]

-Some cut squad conflict between Mordin and Grunt. Wonder why this was cut?

My best guess would be there was no time in the animators' schedule, and that confrontation was considered the least interesting.

Why was the dead reaper stuff cut? Too much of a plotdump?

Not that I'm aware of.

[Sjofn]

True, but it appears that they are the only group even trying.

They are, but mostly in that oh God stop you're not helping, YOU'RE NOT HELPING ARGHGHGHGHGH kind of way.


As for long hair, the reason it doesn't exist is because it clips like a motherfucker. And I hate clipping, so I'm fine with them avoiding it, personally. They just need to realise there are hair styles besides the Noble Bun and Generic Short Hair. THAT part might be "this is how military ladies roll," I suppose.


Edit: And I had WONDERED if Conrad was just on crack or what, he called me a jerk and said I shoved my gun in his face, and I totally didn't. :(  Stupid bugs!

[Spiff]

Well, one of their 'best' agents is Miranda, who has been genetically modified to give bad advice.

...And to also have an annoying shit eating grin no matter what situation you're in. I fucking hate her. Every scene she's in

One of my favourite cutscenes was at the end of Miranda's loyalty mission; I took Jack (just to piss her off) and when we got to the Eclipse lady-boss:

Miranda: "let's finish this."
Eclipse boss: "Oh, I was just waiting for you to get dressed. I can't believe Cerberus lets you whore around in that outfit."
Jack: "I like her. Are we still recruiting?"

 

[Sky]

As for long hair, the reason it doesn't exist is because it clips like a motherfucker. And I hate clipping, so I'm fine with them avoiding it, personally. They just need to realise there are hair styles besides the Noble Bun and Generic Short Hair. THAT part might be "this is how military ladies roll," I suppose.

I rolled up a femshep for my evil bitch playthrough of ME1 because of this damned thread. Difficult to make one I liked, but I finally got her together and once in game she has a giant pointy nose and horrible overbite with her tiny weak chin. Almost always goes like that, my first shep had some major flaws that only showed up once in the game, though he looked fine in the chargen. I'm leaning towards keeping her, she's attractive from straight-on and my imagined backstory is that she's bitchy because she was picked on as a kid.

As bad as ME chargen tends to be, I then remembered I have new games I haven't played yet (damn this thread) so I went into Fallout:NV and rolled up Jebediah, the slightly retarded knob-nosed coot with stupid hair. Can any dev team out-do Bethesda's horrible character creation? I mean, I looked cool in Arena, wtf?

[Sjofn]

Non-canon MANSHEP has a hilarious pig-nose and a giant square jaw. He's probably the best I've done in the ME2 character generator (my real MANSHEP I copped out with the default fellow), but his nose cracks me up. It looks great in profile, but OINK OINK OINK head on.

It's sad, I actually prefer MANSHEP for some reason, but it is much harder (imo) to make a decent looking dude than a decent looking lady. The trials I go through!

[Sir T]

Its almost like a lot more development work went into making the engine display attractive young women.

[Morat20]

Its almost like a lot more development work went into making the engine display attractive young women.

It's almost like they expect there audience to be 17 to 29 year old males......

As I get older, I get bitchier about my gaming experience. It says a lot that I keep playing this game. It's a good balance of time spent and achievement, to me. Then again, I also play Halo: Reach. Just, you know, with the voices muted. I don't want to hear those idiots. I just want to run over them.

[TripleDES]

I'm curious - was all the cut dialogue from Legion acquisition on the disc? There was a boss at the end who had about two dozen ambient lines to spout. He tells you the story of the derelict Reaper, and its name.

Someone find this!

[Sjofn]

Or failing that, Stormwaltz should tell us the story himself!

Pretty please? 

[Azuredream]

There's a site called http://www.masseffect2faces.com/index.php, you might be able to find a face you like or at least one you can stand. My second femshep looked a lot better than my first one using one of the face codes from that site.

[Sjofn]

I just finished the game again, and I have to say, at the end when the Commander General is abandoned by Harbringer, it makes me extremely depressed. Something about the way its animated makes me all sad.

Baby Reaper does not improve on repeat appearances, either.

Also, the star background is blue instead of orangey at the end when you're telling the Illusive Man to suck your dick (I assume it's also blue when he's telling you you're awesome for saving the base). I just bet the geniuses at Cerberus are the ones fucking around with dark energy and stars and WHOOPS OUR BAD THE UNIVERSE IS ENDANGERED BY OUR DUMBASS CERBERUS SCIENTISTS AGAIN HELP HELP. Or they thought it looked cool. But I like my theory better.  

[Morat20]

If you're renegade, he moves his base to the red side of the star. If you're paragon, he stays on the blue side. Don't tell me there aren't half-red, half-blue stars out there. That Main Sequence shit is a conspiracy.

[Sky]

WHOOPS OUR BAD THE UNIVERSE IS ENDANGERED BY OUR DUMBASS CERBERUS SCIENTISTS AGAIN HELP HELP.

And we would have succeeded, too...if it weren't for those meddling kids!

Someone mod in a mystery machine skin for the normandy.

[Sjofn]

By the way, I did Lair of the Shadowbroker with someone who romanced Liara this time (yay for importing other people's saves, I had no interest in her m'self), and totally get why there are chunks of annoyed Kaidan/Ashley romancers on the Bioware boards now.

I did not like having to "break up" with Jack by being the biggest asshole on the planet with most asshole-ish line possible ("If you're not going at least try to be normal, I guess we're done!" is like ... man, fuck you, MANSHEP.), but I didn't want her to come to my cabin, and for all I know the "no thanks" option you get in there is even more depressing. Miranda I had just bungled the chance to flip her switch, and with Tali at least my "I don't want to romance Tali" line was nice and let the poor girl save face.

I'm still trying to claw my way through my Renegade LadyShep playthrough. I really, really hate being a renegade except in certain situations (I renegade all over the place when dealing with krogan, for example). I guess I'm just not renegade material. 

[UnSub]

My male Shepherd spent the game trying to get into the pants of every female he could (I figured being dead gave him a certain perspective on life, plus, y'know,  ) and had Miranda show the first bit of interest. Jack required commitment and Shepherd wouldn't break up with Miranda, so it was all, "Fine then. Get lost." from Jack.

No-one minded that I'd hooked up with Liara before though. It was like an entirely separate part of the game. 

... and I wasn't very interested in seeing Jack cry after sex in-game. Because all big bad punk girl wanted was a little tenderness. 

Side note: I didn't like the Witcher's collectable friends-with-benefits card game, but at least that game recognised sex as something that can happen outside of big commitments. BioWare generally (gay party boy in Dragon Age aside, I believe) wants their characters to have a firm commitment before they'll sleep with you, and by 'firm commitment' I mean 'have listened to all of their stories and said the right platitudes back'.

[rk47]

u can always let Jack do it 'with no strings attached' right after her loyalty. But considering what Jack looks like...I don't know why anyone wants to.

[UnSub]

u can always let Jack do it 'with no strings attached' right after her loyalty. But considering what Jack looks like...I don't know why anyone wants to.

Really? Must have missed that.

[Hoax]

That I accomplished but I couldn't be bothered to wine and dine any of these other crazies. I was seriously pissed I couldn't get with the doctor for some reason though it was not for lack of trying.

[Sjofn]

Side note: I didn't like the Witcher's collectable friends-with-benefits card game, but at least that game recognised sex as something that can happen outside of big commitments. BioWare generally (gay party boy in Dragon Age aside, I believe) wants their characters to have a firm commitment before they'll sleep with you, and by 'firm commitment' I mean 'have listened to all of their stories and said the right platitudes back'.

It varies in Dragon Age, in a way I liked a lot better, although they will all ask for a commitment eventually. Morrigan and Zevran will sex you up pretty early, although I forget the name of the threshold, but that is not the point of the relationship (although having the achievement linked to sex will give you the impression you got the power up and won the relationship game already, which is a mistake imo), Alistair will do it at "adore" (although he won't ask you for it until it's Love), and Leliana holds out for twoo wuv.

I don't like that in ME it's the pre-FINAL BATTLE ZOMG "reward," and I really hate that if you are not romancing a romance-able character, they have nothing much to say to you. It particularly bothers me with Jack, since 98% of your "romancing" can just as easily be you breaking down her walls enough to allow herself to have a friend, something I think would be FAR HEALTHIER for her at this moment anyway.

EDIT: I assume the no-strings sex with Jack comes when she straight up asks you if you want to fuck her and you renegade it by saying yes? I don't know, as my reaction has always been because man that seems like a bad idea.

[Reg]

My MANSHEP stayed mopey and true to Liara so he spent his pre-suicide love interlude sulking in his cabin looking at her picture. It was worth it though later when I ran the Shadow Broker DLC.

On my current run through as LADYSHEP I'm staying true to Kaidan.  He sent that nice letter after we ran into him on that planet and so far none of the guys on my team much do it for me.  I tentatively came on to Jacob but it was weird and made me feel like LADYSHEP was some horrible cougar. 

[FatuousTwat]

Aw fuck, I stayed true to Liara with DUDESHEPBRO and haven't played through any of the DLCs... Are they that worth it?


Also, the I watched the Jacob "sex" scene on youtube and holy shit  .

[Reg]

I've only played the Shadow Broker DLC and I thought it was worth it.  There's a car chase scene in it that's hysterical.

Edit: Holy crap! I just watched the Jacob romance on youtube. It's horrible. I really dodged a bullet there.

[Tebonas]

My Paragon Shep stayed true to Ashley, hopefully I will be rewarded in Mass Effect 3. Because faithfully missing out on Kelly Chambers deserves at least a threesome.  

[Azuredream]

On my current run through as LADYSHEP I'm staying true to Kaidan.  He sent that nice letter after we ran into him on that planet and so far none of the guys on my team much do it for me.  I tentatively came on to Jacob but it was weird and made me feel like LADYSHEP was some horrible cougar. 

That's almost identical to my playthrough. Started some of the romance dialogue with Jacob, and abruptly stopped. Not sure if Carth Kaiden will make an appearnace in ME3, but my femshep will hold out.

[Merusk]

That I accomplished but I couldn't be bothered to wine and dine any of these other crazies. I was seriously pissed I couldn't get with the doctor for some reason though it was not for lack of trying.

Yeah that seemed odd to me.  You go through all this trouble to chat her up, get her a bottle of wine and spend an evening together sharing said bottle and... that's the last interaction the doctor has with you until she is or isn't melted by the collectors.  Wtf.

[Sir T]

I actually found that odd too. For 2 people that you get hinted at pretty early are good friends, the stunning lack of dialog for the majority of the game is a bit odd, even leaving out the hormones on legs Shep seems to be.

[Bunk]

EDIT: I assume the no-strings sex with Jack comes when she straight up asks you if you want to fuck her and you renegade it by saying yes? I don't know, as my reaction has always been because man that seems like a bad idea.

From what I understand, yes, that is the result of the renegade option in that scene. I've never actually explored it (my manshep is being played as superpussy goody two shoes, for giggles), but I have heard that its basically an auto fail on ever getting her Loyalty.