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Reply #280 on: December 16, 2009, 05:24:04 PM

It's better than red and blue, but it still causes trouble for some people.  I get minor but tolerable headaches, and my wife pretty much refuses to see 3D stuff any more because it's worse for her.
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Reply #281 on: December 16, 2009, 07:38:05 PM


 Besides the 3D, the rendering of the special effets through the camera monitor while you are shooting, not in post,  is what I thought was pretty sweet.
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Reply #282 on: December 17, 2009, 02:02:18 AM

The deal is this incarnation supposedly doesn't cause nausea, vomiting, and headaches.

I find it mildly headache-inducing.

I wear glasses, so wearing the 3D glasses is not very comfortable.

I find it pretty gimmicky (maybe they've done something awesome with it in Avatar, but I'm not gonna hold my breath).
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Reply #283 on: December 17, 2009, 12:17:19 PM


 Besides the 3D, the rendering of the special effets through the camera monitor while you are shooting, not in post,  is what I thought was pretty sweet.

See this is awesome from a geek's perspective, but it isn't enough to hang a movie on. What I've heard of the story sounds trite and uninteresting. I'm not paying movie prices for a goddamn tech demo.

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Reply #284 on: December 17, 2009, 04:52:38 PM


 Besides the 3D, the rendering of the special effets through the camera monitor while you are shooting, not in post,  is what I thought was pretty sweet.

See this is awesome from a geek's perspective, but it isn't enough to hang a movie on. What I've heard of the story sounds trite and uninteresting. I'm not paying movie prices for a goddamn tech demo.

You know as much as the plot may be shit, when you phrase it like that...I'm in.

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Reply #285 on: December 17, 2009, 07:56:51 PM


 Besides the 3D, the rendering of the special effets through the camera monitor while you are shooting, not in post,  is what I thought was pretty sweet.

See this is awesome from a geek's perspective, but it isn't enough to hang a movie on. What I've heard of the story sounds trite and uninteresting. I'm not paying movie prices for a goddamn tech demo.

The blue furry aliens with tails ensure that only geeks are going to see this. Otherwise I'm expecting this to be Dances With Wolves minus the tent sex.....which is a shame in a way.
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Reply #286 on: December 17, 2009, 09:11:36 PM

We're going to see this in a few minutes on the XD 3d screen, its like IMAX-lite I think. I'm sure we'll be entertained no matter what  DRILLING AND MANLINESS
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Reply #287 on: December 17, 2009, 09:16:24 PM


 Besides the 3D, the rendering of the special effets through the camera monitor while you are shooting, not in post,  is what I thought was pretty sweet.

See this is awesome from a geek's perspective, but it isn't enough to hang a movie on. What I've heard of the story sounds trite and uninteresting. I'm not paying movie prices for a goddamn tech demo.

The blue furry aliens with tails ensure that only geeks are going to see this. Otherwise I'm expecting this to be Dances With Wolves minus the tent sex.....which is a shame in a way.
This post made me go look at the imdb for Dances with Wolves out of curiosity.  And Holy Fucking Shit, I didn't realize that the chick from that was President Laura Roslin.

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Reply #288 on: December 17, 2009, 10:09:09 PM

The trailers for this movie continue to bore me.
I wear glasses, so wearing the 3D glasses is not very comfortable.
This. A thousand times this.

Also, is this 3D tech the same the used for Beowulf? I saw that in Imax and wasn't particularly impressed.

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Reply #289 on: December 17, 2009, 10:39:36 PM


This post made me go look at the imdb for Dances with Wolves out of curiosity.  And Holy Fucking Shit, I didn't realize that the chick from that was President Laura Roslin.


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Reply #290 on: December 18, 2009, 01:36:26 AM

Welp, it was better than Twilight.

Just got back, head running at a steady dull ache from the 3d.

It was basic_action_drama_0589  - There were no boundaries pushed and I called the exact ending at about half way through.  It was pretty, though.


But at least it was pretty.
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Reply #291 on: December 18, 2009, 01:48:30 AM

 Ohhhhh, I see.

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Reply #292 on: December 18, 2009, 02:18:11 AM


I'm glad that was cleared up to everyone's satisfaction.
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Reply #293 on: December 18, 2009, 04:28:38 AM

Movie was meh at best. The 3d started to hurt my eyes towards the end, very cliche plot.

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Reply #294 on: December 18, 2009, 06:58:23 AM


Over and out.
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Reply #295 on: December 18, 2009, 08:30:05 AM

Sorry if this has been mentioned already, don't want to read the whole thread due to *spoilers*.

Just read in the paper at work that analysts are predicting the movie will have to make 700 million world wide to just break even covering production, marketing and print costs.  swamp poop

As well as a quote from Sigourney Weaver saying the movie will do better then Titanic.

I think a lot of people are in for a major dissapointment.

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Reply #296 on: December 18, 2009, 08:41:00 AM

I've already decided I'm not going to bother.
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Reply #297 on: December 18, 2009, 11:35:13 AM

The movie was awesome. The most fucking awesome movie in a long long time. Why? Not because of the action (which was ok) but because of the characters. The movie sometimes went a bit caricature, but overall the "good guys" burned with such intensity that I couldn't help but love them so much I almost started shouting encouragement to them right there in the theatre. Especially Sigourney Weaver. She was distilled DRILLING AND WOMANLINESS.

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Reply #298 on: December 18, 2009, 06:55:55 PM

Very well done, and very predictable, although I wasn't expecting  But overall, yeah, Dances With Wolves In Space. Fun battle scene at the end though. Crash crash!

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Reply #299 on: December 18, 2009, 07:14:42 PM

Absolutely loved it! The 3D was not in your face like most animated films, at dded a really nice depth of field to everything.

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Reply #300 on: December 18, 2009, 08:05:32 PM

Especially Sigourney Weaver. She was distilled DRILLING AND WOMANLINESS.

The guy from Grandmas Boy was the worst by far.
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Reply #301 on: December 18, 2009, 10:11:05 PM

Loved it.  I was afraid that I would find the 3d distracting but that wasn't a problem for me at all.  It looked like excellent
fantasy/science fiction illustrations brought to life.  And the animation of the faces and the eyes was incredible.  I don't
give a damn that it isn't a story that I have never heard before because I don't recall having that story told better.
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Reply #302 on: December 19, 2009, 12:01:48 AM

Saw it too. They also showed a trailer for Alice in Wonderland in 3D as well. It was the exact opposite of Avatar, all garish and 3D in your face.

I found Avatar's use of 3D to be much more subtle overall. It didn't try to make the film jump out of the screen; more like it pulledl you into the movie.
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Reply #303 on: December 19, 2009, 12:20:26 AM

Amazing special effects, so much so that the movie needs to be seen by that merit alone. Also it has to be seen in 3D, don't even bother with 2D.

That said, it was quite silly.  Also, it's fun to watch 500 million dollars flash before your eyes.

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Reply #304 on: December 19, 2009, 05:01:17 AM

Saw it with a group of friends last night, and not one of us left the cinema unsatisfied. In fact it was a lot of fun seeing some of the somewhat shell-shocked faces coming out of the darkness and the general hubbub of elation.

It's by no means a great movie. We're not talking a Godfather or Shawshank or what have you, but we are talking a special effects blockbuster to end all special effects blockbusters. And it is very much Dances with Smurfs, and fantastic for all the right reasons. It's cheesy as fuck. Seriously, seriously cheesy. And you won't give a damn, because Cameron offers you his finest cheese selection and you'll like every mouthful. Cameron is a master of manipulation like that. He's also a master of creating his dream audience crossover. There were the requisite ammount of nerds in on the first night, it's true, but way outnumbering the nerds were couples and families, the kids sat through near 3 hours of it. It's going to make a fuckton of money.

The 3D was used beautifully - nothing flew out of the screen, it was purely depth of field work, emphasising the jawdropping fantasy setting in a way that is going to make a lot of directors seriously think about changing up their game-plan. The technical impact of Avatar is massive - the other success against all odds is the mo-cap. It just hasn't been done this good, ever. There's no floating displacement, no interaction problems, and best of all, thanks to some truly beautiful animation, the Na'vi's eyes are real and expressive despite their largeness, and the whole 'dead eye/uncanny valley' problem doesn't exist at all. It takes but a moment after the initial avatarisation to stop noticing what's real and what isn't. Perhaps mostly because Avatar is sort of a reverse Roger Rabbit in that regard.

My one problem with the experience is 3D takes me so long to get used to. The scant 3D trailers just aren't enough to configure my eyes, and I was in some considerable discomfort for about 45 minutes into the movie itself and was seriously worried it was going to hamper my enjoyment, but I did adjust eventually.

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Reply #305 on: December 19, 2009, 06:43:23 AM

It's fun watching the world-weary internet guys fume while their predictions of disaster based on nothing but the trailer turn out to be completely wrong. awesome, for real
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Reply #306 on: December 19, 2009, 06:54:33 AM

I thought the predictions were largely, "This is going to be a stupid movie that will have awesome special effects," Which largely seems to have come true. That said I might be misremembering, I started mentally blanking this thread when the nerdslaps started.

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Reply #307 on: December 19, 2009, 11:09:48 AM

I think I'm the only one who thinks it, but Sam Worthington was the wrong guy to play the Hero/Messiah/Great Leader SkyDreamer.  I could see him falling in love with the smurfs/planet but not as the great war leader he was supposed to be.

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Reply #308 on: December 19, 2009, 08:49:02 PM

Yeah, I don't think anyone entertains the notion that this isn't going to make a huge pile of money. If there was a disaster involved, it happened a long time ago when it came time to sign off on the budget. It needs to open huge and have good legs on top of that.

It's opening day gross is almost exactly the same as that of the recent Star Trek, a successful blockbuster in it's own right. In the unlikely event that Avatar were to finish up with a total gross similar to that of Trek, angry studio execs would have James Cameron executed for losing hundreds of millions of their dollars. On the other hand, it's opening day was also only a few million short of Return of the King. If it grosses like ROTK did, everything is golden and James Cameron is a hero.

Basically we won't know anything real until at least the second weekend.

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Reply #309 on: December 20, 2009, 06:11:54 AM

That movie is fucking great.  You guys have way too much sand in your V_Card.

  • The visual are stunning, like 11 out of 10 stunning
  • The love stroy is not so bad and not overplayed
  • The pacing is really good. The 3 hours passed very fast, much faster than any of the LotR movies
  • The fights are silly but entertaining and well shot.  The action was less silly than a typical over the top action movie like Die Hard 4 or Transformers
  • Avatar>X-Men>Transformer>New Star Wars trilogy

It even convinced me than MECH are worst than Tank, even in a jungle environment.  One tank would have won the battle.

Missed opportunity from the scriptwriter : a training montage were the humans train the blue guys and show them how to make rocket arrows with 2-3 guerrilla attacks to steal some equipment would have removed the silly. Training montages are awesome.


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Reply #310 on: December 20, 2009, 07:25:44 AM

Just got back from an IMAX 3D version.  Mother of god it made a difference, far bigger than it did for seeing Star Trek on the IMAX.  Movie of the year for me now, now that I saw it 7 stories high.

If it dosn't the Oscar, and Cameron for directing it, there is no justice in this world.

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Reply #311 on: December 20, 2009, 11:10:28 AM

I really don't get the praise. I can understand saying the movie looks amazing, but its the most trite plot by numbers story imaginable. Im debating checking it out in IMAX does anyone know if the 3d on IMAX is better than a digital screen?
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Reply #312 on: December 20, 2009, 01:44:04 PM

I saw it on 3D and then 3D IMAX. The IMAX made a difference for me.

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Reply #313 on: December 20, 2009, 02:09:38 PM

Opening weekend is estimated to be $73 million domestic, and such estimates are pretty much always on the money to within a few million, even this early. The overseas take is estimated at about $160 million, which is very encouraging. What they need now is a second weekend dropoff percentage in the low thirties. Over forty and there's cause for concern. Over fifty and it's time to panic. Fortunately reviews and viewer's scores are both substantially positive, which bodes well for having a small dropoff.

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Reply #314 on: December 20, 2009, 02:23:18 PM

Factor in the east coast being snowed in opening weekend.
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