Game of Thrones [SPOILERS]

[HaemishM]

I'm not sure who all he was burning the first time we saw Stannis, but he clearly was never meant to be a sympathetic character.

As for the Dorne stuff, the TV version has made a fuckload less sense than the book version but I can see why they compressed it. They'd have had to introduce at least 3 or 4 other "major" characters who end up being redshirts anyway. At least in the books, we see that Doran has sent a Dornish prince to marry Dany and cement an alliance between Dorne and the new Targareyn dynasty - without that, I'm still not entirely sure why Dorne is there at all.

I do appreciate HynoBoobs though.

[Merusk]

Myrcella has to rule before she can die. Gold their crowns, gold their shrouds, remember?

I took that to be she'd be a princess, not necessarily Queen, but good point I'd forgotten the crowns part.

I do appreciate HynoBoobs though.

Rosabell Laurenti Sellers, she's 19.

[MahrinSkel]

Why is Dorne important? Jesus, "winter is coming" and Dorne is the furthest south in Westeros. It's going to be warmest, and when the army of cold and death breaks out and comes down from the North to kill everybody, the remnants are going to wind up there whether they want to or not.

Whatever the final crisis of the story is, it's going to start in Dorne.

--Dave

[eldaec]

Myrcella has to rule before she can die. Gold their crowns, gold their shrouds, remember?

I took that to be she'd be a princess, not necessarily Queen, but good point I'd forgotten the crowns part.

Myrcella could become queen simply by Tommen dying before her, or she could marry Trystane and pick up a Dornish crown, or Tyrion could carry out his threat to crown her in a mirror of the Dance of Dragons.

The way she is situated she'd have to work pretty hard to avoid being crowned by someone.

Why is Dorne important? Jesus, "winter is coming" and Dorne is the furthest south in Westeros. It's going to be warmest, and when the army of cold and death breaks out and comes down from the North to kill everybody, the remnants are going to wind up there whether they want to or not.

Whatever the final crisis of the story is, it's going to start in Dorne.

--Dave

Doesn't have to be.

And if it is, that doesn't avoid the requirement to have an actual plot in the meantime.

[disKret]

Last episode leaked?

[angry.bob]

Last episode leaked?

Just screenshots from what I can find. Someone on /TV is getting review copies about a week before broadcast and spends half a week posting screencaps without spoilers to taunt people and be a dick.

[Shannow]

They're dropping like flies!

[Threash]

How you gonna cut away from Stannis like that.

[Merusk]

Wife is soooo pissed. I laughed for knowing what was coming. Nice misdirect about Benjen in the pre show recap.

I was surprised about Stannis though. Didn't expect it to resolve like that.

[Tannhauser]

This was a good season-ender, even if I didn't like the outcomes of a couple of storylines.
 

[Chimpy]

Not a bad ending for the season overall. Now we get to wait a year to see how things go in new territory (unless fat-ass finishes the book before then).

[Bunk]

Well, couple of surprises there. Did not expect that many deaths in one episode.

[Threash]

That looked like a whole lot of CGI to me, the face did not match the body.  And from behind it was obviously a body double.

[Merusk]

Yeah the whole thing was a body double that's been known since October when the scene was filmed.

Not a bad ending for the season overall. Now we get to wait a year to see how things go in new territory (unless fat-ass finishes the book before then).

There's been several reports that he's "writing as fast as he can" to get it done because he wants to beat season 6. I don't see it happening, since the final-edit-to-release cycle is about 9 months from what we've seen with other highly-anticipated books.  Only way he's beating the next season is if he's going digital.

[Johny Cee]

Yeah the whole thing was a body double that's been known since October when the scene was filmed.

Not a bad ending for the season overall. Now we get to wait a year to see how things go in new territory (unless fat-ass finishes the book before then).

There's been several reports that he's "writing as fast as he can" to get it done because he wants to beat season 6. I don't see it happening, since the final-edit-to-release cycle is about 9 months from what we've seen with other highly-anticipated books.  Only way he's beating the next season is if he's going digital.

Why would going digital matter?  The 9 month cycle is for editing and marketing.  The publisher is going to market the shit out of it for months (including getting ARCs out and getting the hype going) to maximize sales.  Even if GRRM doesn't beat the TV series, they are going to hype up how different it is or whatever.

[Abagadro]

Frakenmountain!

[Setanta]

I would kill to see a Frankenmountain vs The Gravedigger fight.

[Lucas]

Nope, I personally disliked how they handled a couple storylines this season and how others were adapted for TV (while I really enjoyed how they handled the whole show in the previous years). Books are still much better (minus some long-winded and sparse details), so this is it for me regarding the TV show. See ya in the late 2020-something: maybe by that time the last book will be published so that I can catch up with the show 

[Merusk]

Yeah the whole thing was a body double that's been known since October when the scene was filmed.

Not a bad ending for the season overall. Now we get to wait a year to see how things go in new territory (unless fat-ass finishes the book before then).

There's been several reports that he's "writing as fast as he can" to get it done because he wants to beat season 6. I don't see it happening, since the final-edit-to-release cycle is about 9 months from what we've seen with other highly-anticipated books.  Only way he's beating the next season is if he's going digital.

Why would going digital matter?  The 9 month cycle is for editing and marketing.  The publisher is going to market the shit out of it for months (including getting ARCs out and getting the hype going) to maximize sales.  Even if GRRM doesn't beat the TV series, they are going to hype up how different it is or whatever.

Not all of that delay is due to marketing. Martin's books have had problems with printing and binding due to the size and the very limited number of printers that can handle it.

[jgsugden]

If Martin finishes the book by November is it'll be on the stands by the next episode. The publishers would likely be very incentivized to get books out before the show spoils them to a larger extent. However, at the rate GRRM writes and with his view on spoilers, I don't really expect to see it happen.

[Shannow]

If he doesn't get the book finished by next spring, season 6 will be the most interesting in GoT history because absolutely no one will know where the fuck it's going. That will be very interesting.

Also: This is pretty good

[K9]

So many underwhelming things in this episode; they tried to cram far too much in and half-arsed everything, apart from Cersei's walk, which seemd to go on forever.

Grumbly thoughts below the spoiler:

[Samwise]

Stannis put all his eggs in the Red Woman's basket.  When she abandoned him, he was left with nothing, not even his faith in himself.

[Ruvaldt]

So many underwhelming things in this episode; they tried to cram far too much in and half-arsed everything, apart from Cersei's walk, which seemd to go on forever.

Grumbly thoughts below the spoiler:

[angry.bob]

Also, I just realized that was Indira Varma. Man does she look different than the last time I saw her. It's almost as big a difference as Sibel Kekilli.

[Merusk]

[eldaec]

For some reason I'm actually looking forward to this episode rather than simply unable to look away from the unfolding disaster.

[Miguel]

[Speedy Cerviche]

We see so little of that Direwolf I actually forgot it existed until the Sam scene.

PS why are we spoiling stuff?

[Threash]

[Abagadro]

Surprised the boat wasn't named Live 4 Ever.

[Tannhauser]

I think the people that died off camera are dead.  Hound died off camera and it would be kind of a cheap stunt to have them spring up or just barely hang on.

That ship had better turn around.  Jamie knows Dr. Bashir would dispense frontier justice.

[Samwise]

That was my thought as well, but it was pointed out to me that if the ship turns around and lands in Dorne again, there's no guarantee they'll get to leave with Tristane.  The strategically sound choice might be to get Tristane safely installed in King's Landing as a hostage and send a message to Dorne requesting Ellaria's head in a box.

[jgsugden]

Jamie, a father, should turn that ship around unless his daughter stops breathing - unless there is antidote on board.

[eldaec]

Just finished watching, immeadiate reaction : meh.

Stannis : ok actually, I'm espeicially glad that his kinslaying meant he paid the price for his prior kinslaying.

Mereen : are we supposed to be excited by a rerun of CoK Tyrion? I'm guessing we won't actually get that, but seriously, that is the promise you want to make to viewers? I mean, I have season 2 on DVD, I can watch that already.

Arya : End of this was pretty great, I assumed they were skipping the whole bit they introduced.

Dorne : Jesus fucking christ, is that it? What was the fucking point?

Kings Landing : Shot well, acted well, but totally absent of impact because they haven't sold me on the state of KL. I think the walk was exactly the right length, the problem as a book reader is that you watched precious minutes bleeding away, which left us with....

Jon : Really? Going to have that happen just "because"? Was the exchange with Davos and the shot of Jon reading letters just to hint that you know it would be possible to write a better script but give zero fucks at this point?