SWTOR

[Surlyboi]

According to BWA, that's not gonna happen.

And on the forums, there was much wailing and gnashing of teeth.

[Fordel]

Please, like they'll pass on free money. 

[MuffinMan]

Yeah the sense I get from real-life acquaintances is that they have, along with everyone on the planet, heard of WoW but for various reasons ranging from 'lawl nerdy fantasy' to  just no interest in the setting weren't going to play it. 

Star Wars, on the other hand, is something they seem entirely willing to eagerly jump into to find out what's the deal with this mumorporg thing.

Star Wars is considered less nerdy than Warcraft? I would think they are on the same level.

[Tyrnan]

According to BWA, that's not gonna happen.

And on the forums, there was much wailing and gnashing of teeth.

 

That's quite surprising, to say the least. I'm curious if it's BW taking a stand or just a marketing ploy to get people to buy the CE. It should be interesting to see if they keep their stance on it after a few months when people are begging to throw money at them for it; I just can't see EA saying "No, we're sticking by our principles, keep your money."

[Threash]

No, that's like saying "transformers" are nerdy.  For most people they are just extremely popular mainstream movies that they loved, not some incredibly nerdy fandom.

[Fordel]

Yeah the sense I get from real-life acquaintances is that they have, along with everyone on the planet, heard of WoW but for various reasons ranging from 'lawl nerdy fantasy' to  just no interest in the setting weren't going to play it. 

Star Wars, on the other hand, is something they seem entirely willing to eagerly jump into to find out what's the deal with this mumorporg thing.

Star Wars is considered less nerdy than Warcraft? I would think they are on the same level.

Star Wars is popular culture at this point. My Mother knows what Star Wars is, I could not say the same thing about Warcraft.

[Murgos]

Star Wars is popular culture at this point. My Mother knows what Star Wars is, I could not say the same thing about Warcraft.

Hell, my mother and my wife and my wife's mother have all seen Star Wars, even the new episodes.  None of them have a clue what Warcraft is and only vague ideas of what Transformers is.  My mom probably remembers buying me some transformers 30 years ago.  Maybe.

[UnSub]

According to BWA, that's not gonna happen.

And on the forums, there was much wailing and gnashing of teeth.

 

That's quite surprising, to say the least. I'm curious if it's BW taking a stand or just a marketing ploy to get people to buy the CE. It should be interesting to see if they keep their stance on it after a few months when people are begging to throw money at them for it; I just can't see EA saying "No, we're sticking by our principles, keep your money."

The trick will be to not allow exactly what the Collector's Edition gets, but a renamed version that is almost identical. Depends what is exactly in those stores though.

[kildorn]

According to BWA, that's not gonna happen.

And on the forums, there was much wailing and gnashing of teeth.

 

That's quite surprising, to say the least. I'm curious if it's BW taking a stand or just a marketing ploy to get people to buy the CE. It should be interesting to see if they keep their stance on it after a few months when people are begging to throw money at them for it; I just can't see EA saying "No, we're sticking by our principles, keep your money."

The trick will be to not allow exactly what the Collector's Edition gets, but a renamed version that is almost identical. Depends what is exactly in those stores though.

IMO the trick is to make a new premium store, with mostly similar items and unique fuzzy pets.

So you can skim another $whatever off the CE folks ;)

[Surlyboi]

According to BWA, that's not gonna happen.

And on the forums, there was much wailing and gnashing of teeth.

 

That's quite surprising, to say the least. I'm curious if it's BW taking a stand or just a marketing ploy to get people to buy the CE. It should be interesting to see if they keep their stance on it after a few months when people are begging to throw money at them for it; I just can't see EA saying "No, we're sticking by our principles, keep your money."

The trick will be to not allow exactly what the Collector's Edition gets, but a renamed version that is almost identical. Depends what is exactly in those stores though.

IMO the trick is to make a new premium store, with mostly similar items and unique fuzzy pets.

So you can skim another $whatever off the CE folks ;)

Bingo.

[Amaron]

According to BWA, that's not gonna happen.

They have to say that no matter what at this point.

[luckton]

They have to say that no matter what at this point.

This.  As with any MMO ever developed, one of the golden rules has always been:

"The answer is always no* unless otherwise specified.  To say yes and then take it back is a slap in the face."

*At least until we either figure out how to do it or give in to our demons.

[Kageru]

Star Wars is popular culture at this point. My Mother knows what Star Wars is, I could not say the same thing about Warcraft.

If you want to "live in the world" of star wars it's still nerdy, as is playing WoW. It's going to see a lot of money on the screen that isn't.

I'm still amazed Star Wars has survived the last movies and all the exploitation of the IP though. But I guess that's part of it being so mainstream, it can be famous for being famous even if it's not very good.

[Fordel]

Well that's the thing, SWTOR is much closer to watching a movie then living in the world.

[Evildrider]

I'm still amazed Star Wars has survived the last movies and all the exploitation of the IP though. But I guess that's part of it being so mainstream, it can be famous for being famous even if it's not very good.

Because sci-fi is less nerdy than elves and dragon fantasy of course!   

[luckton]

[eldaec]

Any boxed internet game is nerdy as fuck no matter how you cut it.

To normal people wow and swtor are indistinguishable.

[Nebu]

Any boxed internet game is nerdy as fuck no matter how you cut it.

To normal people wow and swtor are indistinguishable.

The acid test for nerdiness is whether or not you'd discuss it on a date with a hot woman.  If the answer is "fuck no, I'd never bring it up", then it's probably nerdy.

[Surlyboi]

Have you people not been paying attention to the landscape lately? The number of hot women that actually go for that shit has gone up considerably in the past few years.

[Nebu]

Have you people not been paying attention to the landscape lately? The number of hot women that actually go for that shit has gone up considerably in the past few years.

When you start at 0, anything is an increase.

[Surlyboi]

But it was never really at 0. There's always been at least a small population of hot geek women. With the rise of the internets, they've seen that they don't have to hide the geekiness.

[eldaec]

Now seriously, apply the test.

You are on a first date with a hot woman you suspect of also being a geek.

You have a variety of interests, experiences, hobbies, and ambitions from which to select conversation topics.

Are you going to select your level 48 Imperial Agent as a topic for discussion?

[Surlyboi]

Nope. But I did show her a picture of the last lightsaber I'd built.

[Pezzle]

Or you could ask if they do any gaming without being super specific. 

[eldaec]

You saw "lightsabre", she saw "employable skills, has hobby that can easily be confined to the garage, good with hands, useful to have around if a fuse blows, may be able to fix hair dryer, can probably be trusted not to burn home down".

None of this translates well to the Eternity Vault raiding scene.

[Surlyboi]

And nobody's asking anyone to raid the eternity vault.

I said geeky, not hopeless.

[Ingmar]

She's going to find out about the imperial agent eventually.

[Sjofn]

But it was never really at 0. There's always been at least a small population of hot geek women. With the rise of the internets, they've seen that they don't have to hide the geekiness.

I don't know if I would describe myself as "hot," but I am always amused at the repeated insistence I do not, nor will I ever, exist.

[Surlyboi]

But it was never really at 0. There's always been at least a small population of hot geek women. With the rise of the internets, they've seen that they don't have to hide the geekiness.

I don't know if I would describe myself as "hot," but I am always amused at the repeated insistence I do not, nor will I ever, exist.

Well, of course you don't exist. There's no girls on the interbutts.

[Merusk]

I continue to be amazed that some of you are single. 

[Lantyssa]

If she doesn't want to talk about my level 48 Imperial Agent Sith Sorcerer, then I'm not interested in her anyways.

[Nebu]

I was trying to be a smart ass.  I should know better. 

[Paelos]

I was trying to be a smart ass.  I should know better. 

Yep. At least they didn't crack out spreadsheets to discuss the issue on your dating specs.

[Surlyboi]

I continue to be amazed that some of you are single. 

I know, some of us are even getting married! Shock! Horror!

[01101010]

I continue to be amazed that some of you are single. 

I know, some of us are even getting married! Shock! Horror!

...and some of us are smart enough to know better