SWTOR

[WindupAtheist]

Grevious cracked me up since he was made out as an unstoppable deathgod in the (actually very good) animated series and every appearance is him killing tons of jedi; powerful ones even.

Then he gets bitched completely and killed inside of 20 seconds in the movie.

If anything, the fight in the movie took too long.

Grievous: MUAHAHA! *cough* I HAVE FOUR LIGHTSABERS BITCH!
Obi-Wan: I has force, LOL! *gesture*
Grievous: *rockets backward into the wall at 200 miles an hour*

Or better yet, just levitate him six inches off the ground and let him sit there kicking his feet in mid-air like a cartoon character trying to suddenly break into a run.

[Furiously]

Oh god, my inner and outer nerd recalls something about how technology in the Starwars universe reached pretty much a plateau where it took a really long time to make anything even slightly better.

I mean - once you have hyperdrives, and sentient robots, what's the next step? Making a smaller R2DR?

[Tannhauser]

I've always liked that about SW.  Everyone knows how to operate almost all tech and it's second nature to them.  Now fixing it is a different story.  Also, they don't allow droids in their bars because they are constantly surrounded by tech and sometimes a Bith just wants a drink in peace. 

Don't get me started on Aqualish, those bastards.

[Merusk]

Grevious cracked me up since he was made out as an unstoppable deathgod in the (actually very good) animated series and every appearance is him killing tons of jedi; powerful ones even.

Then he gets bitched completely and killed inside of 20 seconds in the movie.

If anything, the fight in the movie took too long.

Grievous: MUAHAHA! *cough* I HAVE FOUR LIGHTSABERS BITCH!
Obi-Wan: I has force, LOL! *gesture*
Grievous: *rockets backward into the wall at 200 miles an hour*

Or better yet, just levitate him six inches off the ground and let him sit there kicking his feet in mid-air like a cartoon character trying to suddenly break into a run.

Young Obi-wan lacked Mace Windu's insight into how to best handle a cybernetic asshat. 

Then again, even Mace waited until the General was running inside his ship before remembering "oh shit, the Force, right..." instead of trying to hack at him with a lightstick.

[Malakili]

Grevious cracked me up since he was made out as an unstoppable deathgod in the (actually very good) animated series and every appearance is him killing tons of jedi; powerful ones even.

Then he gets bitched completely and killed inside of 20 seconds in the movie.

If anything, the fight in the movie took too long.

Grievous: MUAHAHA! *cough* I HAVE FOUR LIGHTSABERS BITCH!
Obi-Wan: I has force, LOL! *gesture*
Grievous: *rockets backward into the wall at 200 miles an hour*

Or better yet, just levitate him six inches off the ground and let him sit there kicking his feet in mid-air like a cartoon character trying to suddenly break into a run.

Yeah, Jedi need to do more of that shit.  The only time we see someone REALLY do it is when Yoda dispatches the Emperor's guards with a bored look on his face.

[Ashamanchill]

Who da man? Yoda-man!

Sorry, had to.

[Ratman_tf]

Grevious cracked me up since he was made out as an unstoppable deathgod in the (actually very good) animated series and every appearance is him killing tons of jedi; powerful ones even.

Then he gets bitched completely and killed inside of 20 seconds in the movie.

If anything, the fight in the movie took too long.

Grievous: MUAHAHA! *cough* I HAVE FOUR LIGHTSABERS BITCH!
Obi-Wan: I has force, LOL! *gesture*
Grievous: *rockets backward into the wall at 200 miles an hour*

Or better yet, just levitate him six inches off the ground and let him sit there kicking his feet in mid-air like a cartoon character trying to suddenly break into a run.

why even land on the planet? Just use the force to choke Grevious from orbit.

[Fordel]

Young Obi-wan lacked Mace Windu's insight into how to best handle a cybernetic asshat. 

Then again, even Mace waited until the General was running inside his ship before remembering "oh shit, the Force, right..." instead of trying to hack at him with a lightstick.

Clearly his force meter was recharging.

[stu]

Grevious cracked me up since he was made out as an unstoppable deathgod in the (actually very good) animated series and every appearance is him killing tons of jedi; powerful ones even.

Then he gets bitched completely and killed inside of 20 seconds in the movie.

If anything, the fight in the movie took too long.

Grievous: MUAHAHA! *cough* I HAVE FOUR LIGHTSABERS BITCH!
Obi-Wan: I has force, LOL! *gesture*
Grievous: *rockets backward into the wall at 200 miles an hour*

Or better yet, just levitate him six inches off the ground and let him sit there kicking his feet in mid-air like a cartoon character trying to suddenly break into a run.

<nerd alert>

In the book version of Ep. III, Yoda sends Obi-Wan because he's the strongest lightsaber duelist in the Order. When Kenobi arrives on Utapau, the room is full of all sorts of droids and Obi-Wan jumps in the middle of them and starts spinning his saber faster and faster until it ramps up into a solid plane, deflecting every shot and detroying every droid in the room. A short time later, when he duels Grievous, Obi-Wan is already pretty drained. Well into the duel, Kenobi uses what's left of his concentration to momentarily seize some of the mechanical pistons in the general's arms, allowing him to cut off a couple hands and avoid getting killed himself. It made more sense in the book version and was probly more fun to read than watch. I might be off on a couple details since it's been a while, but that's how I remember it anyways.

[Lakov_Sanite]

Ah, now I remember why I think star wars is stupid.

[Ironwood]

Midichlorians ?

[Kageru]

George Lucas?

[Ashamanchill]

Ewoks.




No wait, that's why it's awesome!

[Margalis]

When Kenobi arrives on Utapau, the room is full of all sorts of droids and Obi-Wan jumps in the middle of them and starts spinning his saber faster and faster until it ramps up into a solid plane, deflecting every shot and detroying every droid in the room.

A plane is two dimensional. They couldn't just shoot him from the sides or back?

God, Star Wars is some of the dumbest shit imaginable.

[Lantyssa]

You can't rotate something fast enough to make a 'solid' plane, either.

[Mrbloodworth]

The more I look at that space combat, the more it reminds me of Starfox.

Id like SWG:JTL instead.

[Fordel]

What's wrong with Starfox? I liked that game!

[Evildrider]

When Kenobi arrives on Utapau, the room is full of all sorts of droids and Obi-Wan jumps in the middle of them and starts spinning his saber faster and faster until it ramps up into a solid plane, deflecting every shot and detroying every droid in the room.

A plane is two dimensional. They couldn't just shoot him from the sides or back?

God, Star Wars is some of the dumbest shit imaginable.

I bet he spent a force point!   

[Mrbloodworth]

What's wrong with Starfox? I liked that game!

It was fine for starfox, its not so fine ( For me ) in my starwars. I prefer free roam, and to fly myself.

[Tannhauser]

I was just thinking;  why did they build the second Death Star in orbit over a remote forest moon such as Endor?  And why did they put their critical shield generator down in the forest?  Because they wanted it protected by the mightiest warriors in the galaxy, the Ewoks!  THAT explains why they defeated the Emperor's best stormtroopers!

I think we're done here.

[Sky]

It was fine for starfox, its not so fine ( For me ) in my starwars. I prefer free roam, and to fly myself.

Red Nine, I've got a bogie on my six....Red Nine? REEEED NIIIIII.....scrackkssssssshhhh

[Paelos]

Pull up Porkins!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGwYj4AqB6Q

[Merusk]

He should have done a barrel roll.

[Mrbloodworth]

It was fine for starfox, its not so fine ( For me ) in my starwars. I prefer free roam, and to fly myself.

Red Nine, I've got a bogie on my six....Red Nine? REEEED NIIIIII.....scrackkssssssshhhh

Please keep in mind one of the last games i worked on :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tM4MBpCSiNo

Nothing but love for starfox 

[Riggswolfe]

Nah, the "technology had reached its limits" argument doesn't hold in view of all the new weapons that keep being invented, from AoE ion cannons to the various planetary destruction systems.

I agree with the lack of imagination theory.  Consider, for example, that Star Wars has sentience-levels of AI housed in the (small size of the) droids, but there's no Matrix-like entity on any planet.  A lot of the technology is "stuck" that shouldn't be stuck.  The lack of an ongoing race between weapon systems and defense systems, the lack of a Moore's Law, and the absence of military (naval? space?) tactics that put the ships to use in a way that makes sense are disturbing. 

The real world explanation for this is simple, Star Wars was invented in the 70s and so it is stuck in that type of Sci-fi. Now, if Star Wars had been created today you'd probably see networks and such much more than you do. Now, the in-universe explanation? No idea.

[Ratman_tf]

The real world explanation for this is simple, Star Wars was invented in the 70s and so it is stuck in that type of Sci-fi. Now, if Star Wars had been created today you'd probably see networks and such much more than you do. Now, the in-universe explanation? No idea.

That, and it makes Star Wars different from any other sci-fi story. I like that kind of sci-fi just fine, but Star Wars throws all that technobabble nonsense (or it did in the first three movies  midichlorians, jesus wept) to the curb and makes with the pew pew zzzrooom adventure stuff. Let the nerds wring their hands over stupid crap so we can see Dambusters in space.

[Ingmar]

They're not robots, they're golems. Rabble rabble fantasy not sci-fi etc.

[Tannhauser]

The real world explanation for this is simple, Star Wars was invented in the 70s and so it is stuck in that type of Sci-fi. Now, if Star Wars had been created today you'd probably see networks and such much more than you do. Now, the in-universe explanation? No idea.

That, and it makes Star Wars different from any other sci-fi story. I like that kind of sci-fi just fine, but Star Wars throws all that technobabble nonsense (or it did in the first three movies   midichlorians, jesus wept) to the curb and makes with the pew pew zzzrooom adventure stuff. Let the nerds wring their hands over stupid crap so we can see Dambusters in space.

AMEN.  I mean I love dissecting SW as much as the next guy, but it's a space fantasy that's simple and iconic.

Edit:  Grammar

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The real world explanation for this is simple, Star Wars was invented in the 70s and so it is stuck in that type of Sci-fi. Now, if Star Wars had been created today you'd probably see networks and such much more than you do. Now, the in-universe explanation? No idea.

They did catch up with the cellphone fad at least in the prequels

[Samprimary]

'slicing'

[Ratman_tf]

'slicing'

Every SW novel writer should be shot into the sun.

[WindupAtheist]

For some reason you can't just have a thing in Star Wars without changing it's name to be different. It's not hacking, it's slicing. It's not coffee, it's caf. I'm frankly shocked that hot chocolate got to be hot chocolate and not... hot spacechoc or something.

[Samprimary]

I don't know, I would blatantly approve of 'younglingcide'

[Dark_MadMax]

That, and it makes Star Wars different from any other sci-fi story. I like that kind of sci-fi just fine, but Star Wars throws all that technobabble nonsense (or it did in the first three movies   midichlorians, jesus wept) to the curb and makes with the pew pew zzzrooom adventure stuff. Let the nerds wring their hands over stupid crap so we can see Dambusters in space.

SW is fantasy in space. There is no technology  -everything is just magic, with humans in funny in suits passing as "aliens".  That's why I quickly fell out of  love with it once I hit late teens. SW has no logical and solid foundation,  its like cheap action "sci-fi" pretty  pew pew, but  no substance . It requires turn your brains off (not just suspension of disbelief)t to no  be annoyed by myriad of inconsistencies , self contradictions  and logical flaws in literally every single frame, narrative or episode. Just one big clusterfuck with shiny lasers .

 But pretty it is!


p.s. And things became tons worse since Ep6 . 

[Ratman_tf]

For some reason you can't just have a thing in Star Wars without changing it's name to be different. It's not hacking, it's slicing. It's not coffee, it's caf. I'm frankly shocked that hot chocolate got to be hot chocolate and not... hot spacechoc or something.

Ducks and mops are ok though.