The Elder Scrolls Online

[Falconeer]

Because there was one guy, and then another guy, who kept posting about how awesome TESO was going to be because of Firor being the lead and DAoC being the inspiration.

[Hoax]

After this beta the only MMO anyone compares TESO to is SWTOR, lots of discussion on which is worse and/or which will be the bigger failure. Sadly I don't think this can crash and burn as awesomely because people are way less invested in the setting and thankfully people seem a lot less blind to how awful TESO is compared to the SWTOR release days.

Next up? Wildstar and the "vanilla WoW in space will totally rock guys, the game has humor!" crowd.

[Modern Angel]

I'm going to be the outlier and say that I disagree. On what and how, I won't say (and if that's too much, I'll delete the comment).

I soured on Wildstar pretty quickly. Can't elaborate on that one, either.

[Samprimary]

Yeah my review of this game is done. I think people who are part of the ESO beta too should ask me for a copy.

[LC]

Yeah my review of this game is done. I think people who are part of the ESO beta too should ask me for a copy.

Where's my copy?

[UnSub]

Yeah my review of this game is done. I think people who are part of the ESO beta too should ask me for a copy.

In our own way, aren't we all part of the TESO beta?

[Wizgar]

When this game was announced, was there really anyone here who didn't in their heart of hearts know that it was going to be yet another catastrophic flop that went F2P in disgrace within a year of launch? World of Warcraft killed this model of game years ago.

[amiable]

I have things to say and nowhere to say them.

Me too.

[Mrbloodworth]

I Have not heard good things. I'm not in the beta, nor under NDA, but it sounds exactly like I thought it would be. Derivative, mediocre, MMO.

My hope is that you hate it because that probably means I'll like it. 

Sounds like you will love it.

[Sir T]

Next up? Wildstar and the "vanilla WoW in space will totally rock guys, the game has humor!" crowd.

Followed by the "Chris Roberts totally rocks" crowd.

[Samprimary]

You can buy spaceships in wildstar??

[HaemishM]

I'm in. Total playtime this weekend - less than 2 hours. Total playtime ever will end up being less than 2 hours. Take that for what you will.

[Bhazrak]

I'm toughing it out since I want to like the game.

[Nebu]

I'm toughing it out since I want to like the game.

If you get kicked in the nuts enough, you might start enjoying it.

[sam, an eggplant]

All this circling around the NDA reminds me of something my granpappy used to say. You hang around a barbershop long enough, you end up getting a haircut.

[Paelos]

I won't discuss anything NDA related, but I can say is that I wasn't planning to order before this, and I am still not ordering anything in the future.

[Numtini]

I've played a ton of a Hearthstone this weekend.

[Ghambit]

This weekend I reminded myself when Wildstar is releasing.

[Venkman]

I'm in. Total playtime this weekend - less than 2 hours. Total playtime ever will end up being less than 2 hours. Take that for what you will.

That was about the amount of time I had in the PAX East playthrough, which was about all I needed as well  

Can't remember if I signed up for the beta. Pretty sure I did. Not sure I'll download. This has been a pile of meh since they announced ES and MMO in the same breadth. This has never been a concept that could work easily, and certainly not with how they planned to (and ultimately) approached it.

[Modern Angel]

You guys are stretching my ability to keep quiet my contrarianism on this to its limits

[Evildrider]

I think I had more fun downloading the client.

[Rasix]

Ohh, common guys.  I hear we're winning our Guild Wars 2 WVW matchup this week because the other server is all playing TESO.  It must be awesome. 

[Modern Angel]

I will say this. Ordinarily, I think that everyone else is weird for not liking a game I like. This time I'm pretty sure I'm the weirdo and everyone else is smart.

[Paelos]

Ohh, common guys.  I hear we're winning our Guild Wars 2 WVW matchup this week because the other server is all playing TESO.  It must be awesome. 

I scheduled a lot of time for gaming this weekend. I played a lot of Assassins Creed Brotherhood, and WoW.

[Bhazrak]

I will say this. Ordinarily, I think that everyone else is weird for not liking a game I like. This time I'm pretty sure I'm the weirdo and everyone else is smart.

I'm not so smart myself.

I'd still rather have a co-op Elder Scrolls game though.

[Ingmar]

I will say this. Ordinarily, I think that everyone else is weird for not liking a game I like. This time I'm pretty sure I'm the weirdo and everyone else is smart.

I didn't especially like it, but I'm pretty sure my objections to it are the opposite reason from the other folks here. Damn NDA, I want to talk about it.

[amiable]

Ohh, common guys.  I hear we're winning our Guild Wars 2 WVW matchup this week because the other server is all playing TESO.  It must be awesome. 

I got into the TESO beta.  I spent far more time roaming in BG borderland in GW2 this weekend than playing it.

[HaemishM]

You know, every time I watched a video of this game, the only feeling I could really conjure up was a resounding meh. It just felt so much like everything I'd ever played in MMO's before. It didn't seem like one of those things I'd want to endure the inevitable bugs and rebalancing that comes with an MMOG launch.

Sometimes life does imitate art in all sorts of pedestrian and unsurprising ways.

[Nebu]

From watching the videos, my response was: "This would have been a great game.... six years ago."

[Hayduke]

Damn now I almost wish I had signed up for the beta.  Finding creative ways to skirt around the NDA while saying it sucks seems like fun.

[Hawkbit]

I have things to say and nowhere to say them.

Me too.

This x10.

[Wizgar]

This weekend I reminded myself when Wildstar is releasing.

Because Wildstar totally won't be a collapsing shitpile undergoing a panicked conversion to F2P a year after launch, right?

Face it, this is a dead genre. Elder Scrolls and Wildstar are just the last stragglers.

[Sir T]

If its a dead genre, it's because everyone has been flocking to and making WOW clones for the past 10 years. And WOW was basically a clone of Everquest, which was a clone of the Text MUDs I played in college.

The fact is everything SLIGHTLY original in this industry has utterly tanked or was not successful enough to be viable. People still bitch about Tabula Rasa, But Tabras was one of the most enjoyable MMO's I've ever played. I played it a year after it was out and it was just fantastic with original themes and mechanics. It was great. But people panned it because it had a rocky launch and laughed when it failed, rather than saw it as just another nail in the coffin of the industry.

People aim for WOW and then fail. AND they have to aim for WOW as if they don't they don't get investors to invest and they don't get bank loans. It's a vicious cycle, and All that matters is quarterly profits.

I mean, lets face it, who wanted a Skyrim MMO. No-one. What people wanted is a Co-op skyrym. But they went for the WOW MMO as their marketting felt that simply selling 2 million units and then having nothing is not as good as 2 million units with an ongoing sub to play. TES is not suited to an MMO. Its all about ludicrously powerful characters playing through several stories.

But the suits want their WOW revenue stream

When Wildstar Launches everyone will be all Oooh ahh for a month and then no-one will bother with it aside from low numbers who want to play that one game exclusively.

[amiable]

This weekend I reminded myself when Wildstar is releasing.

Because Wildstar totally won't be a collapsing shitpile undergoing a panicked conversion to F2P a year after launch, right?

Face it, this is a dead genre. Elder Scrolls and Wildstar are just the last stragglers.

Guild wars 2 is still very playable.  I am still having quite a bit of fun there.

[Sir T]

GW2 is really interesting as they have it in their buisness model that people pay their cash up front. So they don't run into the same problems that "continuing money stream" games do.