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Reply #3605 on: April 23, 2015, 06:18:26 AM

IF things trundle along with the console release it looks like Ingmar will win our bet, but I still think there's an outlier chance this thing implodes under financial shitstorms and is forced to close or retool.

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Reply #3606 on: April 23, 2015, 06:26:27 AM

The game is much better than it was in beta, and as we said multiple times the download is 33 GB, not 80.

Not necessarily anyone's cup of tea, but plenty of the obstacles to give this a fair try have been removed.

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Reply #3607 on: April 23, 2015, 06:49:36 AM

I have no doubt the game has improved. If it hadn't after all these months of work, that would be the shocking story.

The question is where it stands financially in relation to expectation. At some point, the thing has to turn over and start making big money or there's no reason to let it keep going, long after it's off sub model and on F2P. It all depends on what Zenimax had as a budget and the current revenues.

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Reply #3608 on: April 23, 2015, 08:54:52 AM

Game is so big that it exceeds the PS4 blu-ray size limitation and will have a 15 GB day 0 content download to even begin playing.
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Reply #3609 on: April 23, 2015, 09:13:36 AM

Those of us that found ESO's lack of aggressive monetization refreshing may have been a bit premature.
Good news. They aren't doing that anymore.
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Reply #3610 on: April 23, 2015, 09:14:34 AM

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We’re working on better in-game messaging about limited-time offers and sales that aren’t as intrusive.

It's not going away, just getting tweeked.

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Reply #3611 on: April 23, 2015, 09:16:54 AM

I don't mind if a B2P game makes the store icon glow, or pops up a message in the chat box when first logging in, or whatever. They earned the right to non-intrusive advertising by removing subscriptions.

I do mind giant 38 point bold type directly in the center of the screen saying HEY WE HAVE STUFF TO SELL YOU every hour or so. That's what they're fixing. That's what Neverwinter does, but it's F2P, not B2P. (And I still found it very annoying there.)
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Reply #3612 on: August 23, 2015, 09:19:43 AM

I warn you I shall ignore the warning.

I've started this again a few weeks ago and it seems much improved for me.  One thing though... we used to have a guild.  Bat-Country?  It seems to have disamapeared although I found a guild store in Daggerfall that I can buy stuff from but not deposit stuff into.  Anyone else come across this sort of thing?  Is it just me or is it memorex? 

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Reply #3613 on: August 23, 2015, 08:55:22 PM

Guild stores differ, depending on where you access them from.
If you are accessing guild store from the 'Bank' you are accessing your own guild store.
If you are visiting Guild NPC vendors, those are not your guilds. They are rented by rich guilds to vend their goods on the streets of daggerfall.

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Reply #3614 on: August 24, 2015, 06:03:54 AM

Still saving up for a horse, you bourgeois pigs.

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Reply #3615 on: August 24, 2015, 07:42:25 AM

I know that about guilds but it was a Bat Country guild NPC and, as far as I can tell, there is no more Bat Country.  Or maybe it was Bat-Country.  Anyway, it just seems odd that the store would still be around if the guild isn't there anymore.  You can't access it through the Banker, either.  Or, at least, I can't.

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Reply #3616 on: August 24, 2015, 08:06:05 AM

I've been playing quite a bit.  I joined a "trading" guild because I thought it would allow me access to other players who could craft me some equivalent level Seducer armor (without gouging me for 4-5k gold like last time) as long as I was contributing to the greater good.  That turned out not to be the case - it's mainly a bunch of younger-ish peeps spouting off stupid shit in chat and begging for help / items / gold.  I see "rekt" and "them feelz" a lot.

Ok so plan B.  I've sorta turned my first toon into a clothier and cooking mule and stopped actively leveling him for now.  I parked him in town and just have him researching things and deconstructing items.  Maybe (eventually) he'll be able to craft armor for my main.  I have the gold to pay for someone to craft a new level appropriate set for me, but I'm loathe to part with it.

My main is cruising through regular levels (37) and I'm a waaampire now.  I went and got bitten myself; I'm not paying one of the dicks in chat to get bitten.  Plus my understanding is Werewolf and Vampire turns will be purchasable via Crowns soon.  I'm leveling alchemy on my main but very slowly, badly, inefficiently.  Whatever.

TL;DR - if there's an F13 necro guild or you guys want to group up for adventure(!) I'm always down.  In game ID is: @Geiss.  Signe and I just seem to play opposite times.
 
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Reply #3617 on: September 06, 2015, 08:34:33 AM

I've playing for a few weeks and had just gotten to a point where I thought I knew how to play. Then the patch hit, and damned if I know what happened but my Templar is suddenly dying all the time on the boss mobs. I want to like this game but am finding it hard to like.

My templar is magicka based, level 22 and uses resto staves. My friend has a templar that uses one hand/shield, and is doing fine.

I can't seem to find a class/build that I enjoy enough to keep going. The community is kind of terrible (although Daggerfall is nicer than Ebonheart by a long shot).

I just can't seem to get the hang of playing properly. I like the world exploration though - I just don't have the whole how combat works thing down, I think. Either I don't understand it right, or I do but hate it. I don't know.
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Reply #3618 on: September 06, 2015, 12:33:00 PM

Yeah, patches could do that.  I would have thought they stopped that nonsense by now.  At 22 you should be able to kill anything* no matter what though so my guess is that they made a major mistake with your template like "you can no longer heal yourself".

* There are a few exceptions where boss mechanics can kill you under level 50 though.  The warrior guild serpent woman fight for example, you have to kill her helper bubbles or she heals to full.  Other bosses have mandatory interrupts and stay out of fire type things.
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Reply #3619 on: September 06, 2015, 01:12:42 PM

Hmmmmmm.  It might be your gear?  I'm not 100% sure how much gear directly affects game play mechanics-wise, but I know that around level 37 the same thing happened to me. 

I had been playing la la la, kinda cruising along poking my nose into places, jabbing things with my daggers and / or swapping to staff to raise my skills...then all of the sudden I started getting stomped.  Routinely.  Dungeon delves?  Ahh, no.  Open world boss mobs?  We scoff at your temerity in attacking us!  I didn't really know what to do.  I hadn't drastically altered my play style, so unless there was something completely borked about the game difficulty curve I had missed?

I started looking around at my stats, my skills, and my gear.  I realized my armor (which I paid to have crafted at the time) was rated out for a level 24 and I had just turned 37.  After much wrangling I managed to get a new set of armor, and weapons, crafted; rated out at level 38.  Since I'm a magicka based setup myself (Nightblade) I wear 5 light armor (Seducer's) and 2 heavy armor (Twilight's Embrace).  I also had Twilight's put on the weapons (I dual wield on bar 1).  That way I get the most out of my Light armor passives and the most AC out of the heavy pieces and when I'm dual wielding I'm getting Twilight's Embrace bonus up to +4.

ANYWAY.  tl;dr - the aggregate effect of higher AC armor, armor set bonuses (Seducers, Twilights) and higher base damage weapons seemed to turn things around.  I also dumped my initial trading guild for a *real* trading guild.  They are much more mature, helpful, and they have access to quite a few resources.  If you (Xan) or Signe or whoever wants to join please let me know and I'll get it coordinated.  Or, if you want some in game help with quests, or gold (I pretty much gave up crafting for now since the guild has it covered WAY better than me) I'd be happy to provide either / both.

P.S. - check and make sure your skills and skill morphs you have slotted aren't keying off the wrong stat ( IE - stamina).  You can tell when look at the skill description - if it says "consumes Stamina" that skill will be no bueno for you as a magicka based Templar.

P.P.S - TESO isn't hybrid friendly.  You need to pretty much go all in stat-wise.  For example, I'm currently level 40 and magicka based.  I have 2 points in Stamina, 4 points in Health and every other point in Magic.  And the min maxxer / end game d00ds would say even that spread is a waste of points.  I spent a few points in Stamina so I can Dodge roll once or twice, and "wasted" those points in Health because I often charge into groups of mobs (and die).   
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Reply #3620 on: September 09, 2015, 01:30:19 PM

I bought this for PCand never really got around to playing it. I got a ps4 physical copy cheap and it works/plays pretty good on console as a so far single player game. Is there a way to install the disk so the disk isn't needed to play on ps4? My lazy butt doesn't want to change disks if I don't have to. I know ffxiv didn't need a disk, but can't figure a way around this game.
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Reply #3621 on: September 09, 2015, 06:25:17 PM

As far as I can tell the only way to go diskless on ps4 is to buy it online through the playstation store.  Game is huge so you'd need a lot of hard drive space too.
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Reply #3622 on: September 10, 2015, 06:32:41 AM

Fun fact: disc-based PS4 games will load up your storage just as much as downloaded ones.  The solution is to upgrade the PS4 hard drive.  I am tempted to put a SSD in there but I'm not 100% that the games would not freak out at the speed bump.

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Reply #3623 on: September 10, 2015, 07:11:24 AM

There is an article around somewhere which talks about the speed gains from a SSD. It's not as much as you'd expect for initial map loads.

That said, the PS4 is by far the easiest console to upgrade the hard drive on. It's even supported. There's an article on how to do it at sony's site with a link to download the system image to a USB stick. You boot while holding down a button on a (usb connected) controller and format it and you're done.

It's very slick. I've got a 1 TB hybrid drive in there that is roughly 85% full.
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Reply #3624 on: September 10, 2015, 07:29:25 AM

In the case of TESO, the load screens are faster than any other game I own on the console, which I find fascinating at a certain level.  Some other games are a real sonofabitch, though.  I'd probably be fine with a 7200rpm piece of shit as long as I didn't have to delete disc-based game files so I can download a Destiny patch.

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Reply #3625 on: September 10, 2015, 10:08:35 AM

I went with this drive. You have to use a 2.5" drive unless you get some adapter thing.

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Reply #3626 on: October 23, 2015, 03:10:22 PM

Hmm.. the Humble Bundle store has this at 66% off for a couple of days.  Very tempting, though I'd have to wait another week or two before I could actually play it.

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Reply #3627 on: October 23, 2015, 06:30:31 PM

£16.99 is definitely a 'I would pay for TESO' price point. It's still £49.99 on Steam.

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Reply #3628 on: October 26, 2015, 07:20:08 AM

It's not terrible now, if you're looking for a time waster.  Probably worth it at that price.

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Reply #3629 on: October 26, 2015, 08:23:00 AM

It has taken a surprisingly long time to break the $40 barrier on PS4.
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Reply #3630 on: December 09, 2015, 02:04:38 PM

Free Weekend starting tomorrow; guess I'll finally have a look at it after the not so good previous try during beta.

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Reply #3631 on: December 29, 2015, 12:38:54 AM

Got this as a gift on the PS4 which it seems a lot of people did as it's crowded in the low in area. So far it's not horrible, although damn elder scrolls lore can be tiresome. Its a moderately fun MMO on consoles without a sub. I'm also playing Albion Online. Not sure which is worse.

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Reply #3632 on: December 29, 2015, 09:22:49 AM

I have it now on PS4 as well. I picked it up around thanksgiving for roughly $25.

It's OK. I also picked up Witcher 3 at the same time and it's like the two games are from alternate universes. I played about 15 hours of ESO before I fired up Witcher, and I haven't opened ESO since.

You may think that is an unfair comparison, but I (and most people, it seems) am playing ESO as a single player game.
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Reply #3633 on: December 29, 2015, 10:19:16 AM

I tried to play the game multiple times since launch but never could make it past level 10. I finally picked it up on PS4 and pushed through that level 10 block, and it gets better around the 2/3 mark in the first EP zone. The second zone is pretty good too.

They designed the new player experience very roughly and never properly fixed it. I think the game is doing well though, there are lots of people playing. It's not WoW, but it's a good themepark MMO.
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Reply #3634 on: December 29, 2015, 11:52:02 AM

I think the game is doing well though, there are lots of people playing. It's not WoW, but it's a good themepark MMO.

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Reply #3635 on: January 04, 2016, 12:50:49 PM


You may think that is an unfair comparison, but I (and most people, it seems) am playing ESO as a single player game.

Perfectly fair comparison. Both have to compete for your time.

I have never played WoW.
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Reply #3636 on: January 06, 2016, 09:43:24 AM

Some friends and I picked this up on the Steam sale and started running around yesterday. So far we're having fun with it (very early game) and it's kind of enjoyable to play a game and not know anything about it or the mechanics.

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Reply #3637 on: March 23, 2016, 03:19:17 PM

FYI this is on sale at Greenman Gaming for 75% off plus another 20% off on the sale price.  So if you wanted the Imperial Edition you can get it for $15.

http://www.greenmangaming.com/s/ca/en/pc/games/mmos/elder-scrolls-online-tamriel-unlimited-imperial-ed/

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Reply #3638 on: March 23, 2016, 03:27:49 PM

Is it just me or does anybody else first read "Tamriel "as "Trammel"?

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Reply #3639 on: January 31, 2017, 11:51:22 PM

The next expansion is going to be going back to Morrowind and is bringing in a new class, the Warden.  I might start actually play this again when it comes out.

http://massivelyop.com/2017/01/31/elder-scrolls-online-announces-full-fledged-morrowind-expansion-for-june-6/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5xst39v8wE

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