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Reply #3570 on: March 19, 2015, 10:49:06 AM

Hmm. I remember having some fun with this game near launch (completed the main quest + first set of maps, then quit). I had four gripes that kept me from subbing:
  • Greedy cash shop for a game with a monthly sub (I guess this is resolved now)
  • Lots and lots of bugs (I suppose this one got better too)
  • Responsiveness and latency problems, especially when it came to blocking / getting the most out of strong attacks; exacerbated by playing on a US server from EU
  • Obnoxious inventory issues (and no, I wasn't a hoarder)

For those who played recently: has the game improved in any of these areas, and if so, how? I'm especially curious about latency and combat responsiveness.

Cash shop?  I don't remember there being one when it launched.

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Reply #3571 on: March 20, 2015, 09:29:17 AM

If I see a box copy in any of my local game shops I'm sorely tempted to give this another shot; going about this similar to Guild Wars was exactly the right way to switch to F2P.
Been playing a fair bit of Skyrim in the last few months so I'm up for a bit more Elder Scrolls action. At least the PCs/NPCs aren't all hideously ugly.

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Reply #3572 on: March 20, 2015, 10:54:33 AM

Hmm. I remember having some fun with this game near launch (completed the main quest + first set of maps, then quit). I had four gripes that kept me from subbing:
  • Greedy cash shop for a game with a monthly sub (I guess this is resolved now)
  • Lots and lots of bugs (I suppose this one got better too)
  • Responsiveness and latency problems, especially when it came to blocking / getting the most out of strong attacks; exacerbated by playing on a US server from EU
  • Obnoxious inventory issues (and no, I wasn't a hoarder)

For those who played recently: has the game improved in any of these areas, and if so, how? I'm especially curious about latency and combat responsiveness.

Cash shop?  I don't remember there being one when it launched.
There was a cash shop selling stuff like the 25-euro imperial edition (one of the races was only available if you chose this option -- does this count as P2W?), 12-euro mounts (which were actually REALLY useful, considering horses are so expensive I only had enough money to buy one at around level 30 normally), etcetera. This is the sort of stuff that I'd accept in a F2P game, but not a game I paid 55 euros and a sub price for.

(yeah, I know that basically every other game incl WOW has a cash shop now, but I found ESO's more obnoxious than most.)

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Reply #3573 on: April 01, 2015, 02:43:54 PM

So, uh, is this any good for a casual game?

I tried to get back into SWTOR, I logged onto an alt in the middle of the desert of Tatooine and immediately felt overwhelmed by dread and logged off.

I can pick up an ESO key for pretty cheap on those shady key reseller websites.

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Reply #3574 on: April 01, 2015, 02:59:05 PM

It's a decent single-player experience.  Duo hasn't been bad, but mostly that's trading items and doing delves together, not the story.  It does make me wish they'd come out with an Elder Scrolls-Minecraft completely open-world hybrid game that you can share with a small number of players.

If you're going with a shady site, consider the Explorer's pack, too, so you can roll any race in any alliance.

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Reply #3575 on: April 01, 2015, 04:59:29 PM

Hmm. I remember having some fun with this game near launch (completed the main quest + first set of maps, then quit). I had four gripes that kept me from subbing:
  • Greedy cash shop for a game with a monthly sub (I guess this is resolved now)
  • Lots and lots of bugs (I suppose this one got better too)
  • Responsiveness and latency problems, especially when it came to blocking / getting the most out of strong attacks; exacerbated by playing on a US server from EU
  • Obnoxious inventory issues (and no, I wasn't a hoarder)

For those who played recently: has the game improved in any of these areas, and if so, how? I'm especially curious about latency and combat responsiveness.

Cash shop?  I don't remember there being one when it launched.
There was a cash shop selling stuff like the 25-euro imperial edition (one of the races was only available if you chose this option -- does this count as P2W?), 12-euro mounts (which were actually REALLY useful, considering horses are so expensive I only had enough money to buy one at around level 30 normally), etcetera. This is the sort of stuff that I'd accept in a F2P game, but not a game I paid 55 euros and a sub price for.

(yeah, I know that basically every other game incl WOW has a cash shop now, but I found ESO's more obnoxious than most.)

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Reply #3576 on: April 01, 2015, 05:18:06 PM

Without a sub hanging over me, yeah, this is my casual MMO now.  It's like a second, slightly inferior, Skyrim with other folks running around.  The quests and the combat is what do it for me.  I don't know if I'll hit 50, but sit down, swig a beer and kill some critters, yeah I like it.

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Reply #3577 on: April 01, 2015, 05:24:14 PM

I just picked this up a day ago. Looks great. It's new to me. Looks like it could fill my screw around at my own slow pace explorer style, but too soon to tell. Seems to be a game where you can build your character however you like and not gimp yourself too bad. Or just respec later pretty easily if you do something you end up not enjoying. 8 character slots a bonus for a guy like me.

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Reply #3578 on: April 01, 2015, 06:28:37 PM

If you're going with a shady site, consider the Explorer's pack, too, so you can roll any race in any alliance.

Totally second this. I picked one up for something like $1.00 to add to my account several months ago. Makes it way more enjoyable to just play what you want where you want it.
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Reply #3579 on: April 15, 2015, 12:48:38 PM

I'm considering giving this another go this weekend as they're doing some sort of 'Welcome Back to Tamriel, Beta testers!' weekend. 180gb of game to download, though, and their servers are throttled to fuck, I'll be lucky if I have the damn thing installed before the end of the event...

Also, if they think I'm going to pay $75 for a digital key after the fact, they're utterly insane.

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Reply #3580 on: April 15, 2015, 12:58:02 PM

I'd have tried it again this weekend too, but that download size is a non-starter.  Plus I'd only be able to play it on Sunday anyway.

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Reply #3581 on: April 15, 2015, 01:08:17 PM

I think I might shit-can this, then - I've been hovering at 7% downloaded for about 2 hours. I just don't think I care enough to let it use up all my bandwidth for what looks like the next goddamn week.

Maybe I'll take another look when the actual game cost isn't hilariously unreasonable.

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Reply #3582 on: April 15, 2015, 01:24:59 PM

It is on Steam, so look for it during the big sales.

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Reply #3583 on: April 15, 2015, 01:33:00 PM

180gb of game to download, though,

 ACK!

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Reply #3584 on: April 15, 2015, 03:57:53 PM

I got no less than 6 emails from Zenimax Online over this shit. Go away, ESO.

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Reply #3585 on: April 16, 2015, 01:46:34 AM

180g? That doesn't make any sense. Are you sure? I doubt it's that big on my PC. Or even half of it.


EDIT: Steam says "80 GB available space required".
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Reply #3586 on: April 16, 2015, 06:21:40 AM

33GB download for me. Launcher was 185MB.

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Reply #3587 on: April 16, 2015, 06:48:02 AM

Yes, same here. 80 GB is what apparently the system needs to work, unpack, and install. But once it's done it will only take about 35 GB of space on your Hard Disk. And it does NOT download 80 GB, let alone 180.

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Reply #3588 on: April 16, 2015, 07:54:48 AM

I got no less than 6 emails from Zenimax Online over this shit. Go away, ESO.

They are really getting desperate to try and make this thing work.

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Reply #3589 on: April 16, 2015, 03:37:42 PM

Nah, he probably signed up for the beta that many times. I got a couple fistfulls of emails too.
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Reply #3590 on: April 17, 2015, 01:03:57 AM

I got 1 email. And to be fair they've hardly emailed me at all before, it's not been nearly as spammy as many other games I've hated in the past.

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Reply #3591 on: April 17, 2015, 05:57:37 AM

Nah, he probably signed up for the beta that many times. I got a couple fistfulls of emails too.
I only signed up once. I got like 5 different flavors of "Come back!" messages over the free weekend, free F2P currency, and other shit within a day, and one email a day or two before those.

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Reply #3592 on: April 17, 2015, 06:44:55 AM

So...this is now buy a box and enjoy the whole game for kinda free?  And does that mean you can do so while ignoring the cash shop?  Because if so, that's interesting, assuming a box can be found at a sane price.

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Reply #3593 on: April 17, 2015, 06:54:32 AM

That's how ESO did it, and they were very successful. That doesn't necessarily mean Wildstar will take the same path. They may be more aggressive with monetization, which would be a shame. Hopefully they'll follow ESO.

Edit: Err, I thought this was the Wildstar thread. So to answer your question: yes, that's how it works. ESO has very light monetization, once you buy the buy you can play all the content currently available without needing to pay anything. Cash shop is for consumables, cosmetics, and convenience. Future released content will of course be paid.
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Reply #3594 on: April 17, 2015, 07:09:36 AM

So...this is now buy a box and enjoy the whole game for kinda free?  And does that mean you can do so while ignoring the cash shop?  Because if so, that's interesting, assuming a box can be found at a sane price.
Yes.  The shop has cosmetics and boosters.  Nothing in the game has been changed to require the boosters, so you can completely ignore them.

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Reply #3595 on: April 17, 2015, 01:14:45 PM

Just got ANOTHER email.

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Reply #3596 on: April 18, 2015, 10:04:52 AM

Those of us that found ESO's lack of aggressive monetization refreshing may have been a bit premature.

I found this sort of thing annoying in Neverwinter, and that game is F2P, not B2P.
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Reply #3597 on: April 21, 2015, 11:39:17 AM

And another email.

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Reply #3598 on: April 21, 2015, 12:23:34 PM

Sign up and tell us how it is already Fab.

You tease.

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Reply #3599 on: April 21, 2015, 04:45:54 PM

Fuck that noise.



this isn't even all of them either since I think I missed a couple in my inbox somewhere.

I literally played in one beta weekend.
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Reply #3600 on: April 22, 2015, 06:20:53 AM

I have the same, plus a few more, from one weekend in Beta. The 80gb download and the spamming put me off from bothering again.
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Reply #3601 on: April 22, 2015, 02:57:19 PM

If they hooked your friends, you'd sign up too. You know you would.
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Reply #3602 on: April 23, 2015, 05:42:04 AM

I fired this up during the free weekend and finally got around to registering my retail key.

I've made it to Tamriel (same place I got to in beta) and I have a couple of questions before I go any further

Can I redisign my face anywhere?
Can I become a vampire (I tend to pick Dark Elf based on becoming a vamp later on)?
I've got the Imperial edition, is there any point to the imperial other than being able to pick any faction?
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Reply #3603 on: April 23, 2015, 05:54:37 AM

You can't redesign your face/body (yet, they'll probably add it at some point), anybody can become a vampire, and Imperials are one of the best races for stamina-based builds. Also with the "explorer's pack" you can play any race on any faction.
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Reply #3604 on: April 23, 2015, 05:57:32 AM

I have the same, plus a few more, from one weekend in Beta. The 80gb download and the spamming put me off from bothering again.

Yup, same here.

Also, the beta was awful.  I mean, like horrendously bad awful.

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