Dr. Who

[Soln]

I  Sontarans.  Mr.PotatoHead Fascists.  Great stuff.   

[Ironwood]

Yeah, but there was that fucking horrid 'Two Doctors' with Colin Baker that just ruined them.  It's sometimes hard to get Sontarans right and that two parter with David was just THE BEST.  The whole thing worked well.

[Ratman_tf]

was that Timothy Dalton character last season supposed to be Rassilon, the first Timelord? 

They called him Rassilon. I don't see why they'd use the name unless they meant the first Time Lord. That's probably one of the least strangest things about the Time War. (Nightmare Child, King of the never beens, whatever...)

I also wasn't hot on this episode. I think they're straying into Voyager Borg territory, where the tail is wagging the dog.

[01101010]

I also wasn't hot on this episode. I think they're straying into Voyager Borg territory, where the tail is wagging the dog.

And sadly, Matt will suffer. Bad writing aside, I really quite like Smith as the Doctor.

[Triforcer]

If you can believe the last episode, the Daleks won't be a problem at all.

[Samwise]

The "successor" Daleks were supposed to be a return to some more "pure" Dalek form or something, right?  I couldn't tell, that episode made no goddamn sense.  But I got the impression that the "new" Daleks were in fact supposed to be an older fork off the evolutionary tree, or something.  They destroyed the Daleks that had woken them up because they were further from the Dalek ideal.

[NowhereMan]

I guess they want to go back to the more old school Daleks that had different colours to designate rank and roles, I'm not sure why that seemed like anything more than stupid camp for modern audiences but apparently they're more 'pure' than Davros' remnants. Which seems odd considering Davros created the first Daleks and with them being about racial purity and their original lot being the eventual evolution of the Kaleds you'd imagine the ones Davros made would be pure as any others. I'm guessing that trying to make it make sense beyond, "This sounds like a cool idea," is doomed to failure, much like the Smilers. And somehow unlike the Weeping Angels which were a cool idea that didn't need explaining because they were something new and alien.

[raydeen]

I guess they want to go back to the more old school Daleks that had different colours to designate rank and roles, I'm not sure why that seemed like anything more than stupid camp for modern audiences but apparently they're more 'pure' than Davros' remnants. Which seems odd considering Davros created the first Daleks and with them being about racial purity and their original lot being the eventual evolution of the Kaleds you'd imagine the ones Davros made would be pure as any others. I'm guessing that trying to make it make sense beyond, "This sounds like a cool idea," is doomed to failure, much like the Smilers. And somehow unlike the Weeping Angels which were a cool idea that didn't need explaining because they were something new and alien.

Well, lets not forget the Daleks were imprisoned on Skaro for quite some time (ending scene of Genesis of the Daleks). I'm assuming the 'progenitor' Daleks were some of the original batch that perhaps never got used and the Daleks we all now know and love have been cloned so many times or created through substandard processes (remember they had to dig up Davros because they couldn't muster the intelligence or strategy to win against the Movelianss) that they're sufficiently genetically different as to be viewed as inferior.

As for the multicolored models, Emilia not remembering the Daleks moving the earth, I'm really wondering if things are not quite what they seem. That damn crack in the universe is popping up everywhere and I'm thinking that best case, a whole slice of time has gone missing or worst case, the Doc somehow got sucked into another dimension when the Tardis was falling apart (E-Space maybe?)

Edited for spelling.

[palmer_eldritch]

The Daleks that were rejected for being impure in the recent episode are what remains of the Dalek army created directly from Davros' DNA in the Stolen Earth (I think), so they should be as pure as can be.

[01101010]

I guess they want to go back to the more old school Daleks that had different colours to designate rank and roles, I'm not sure why that seemed like anything more than stupid camp for modern audiences but apparently they're more 'pure' than Davros' remnants.

Which "season" did the Daleks have color and role/rank in? I am curious in that the GF and I have started collecting the old Dr. Who series and would like a Dalek theme'd night. We already bought the Genesis of the Daleks and I was looking to procure the Destiny of the Daleks next.

[NowhereMan]

Hmm... I think I might have exaggerated somewhat in my head. This site has some of the stuff I was talking about, some of the Dalek movies had different ranks different colours and they definitely were different colours when the Supreme Dalek was at war with Davros' Daleks (which was definitely McCoy's run, not sure if it started earlier). The idea was certainly there before though.

[Simond]

The Daleks that were rejected for being impure in the recent episode are what remains of the Dalek army created directly from Davros' DNA in the Stolen Earth (I think), so they should be as pure as can be.

Or they were those human-cell-based daleks from Bad Wolf/Parting of the Ways. There's no way to tell for certain, but the whole 'impure' thing does tend to hint at that.

[Fraeg]

Yeah, but there was that fucking horrid 'Two Doctors' with Colin Baker that just ruined them.  It's sometimes hard to get Sontarans right and that two parter with David was just THE BEST.  The whole thing worked well.

huh, I really dug that episode, of the multi doctor specials (two, three, and five doctors) I think the two doctors is by far the best.  Each to their own.

[Khaldun]

Yeah, but there was that fucking horrid 'Two Doctors' with Colin Baker that just ruined them.  It's sometimes hard to get Sontarans right and that two parter with David was just THE BEST.  The whole thing worked well.

huh, I really dug that episode, of the multi doctor specials (two, three, and five doctors) I think the two doctors is by far the best.  Each to their own.

No disputing matters of taste, some say, but on this: 

Really a bad one. Quite aside from C. Baker.

[Fraeg]

Vampires, plagues, and doctors oh my.

[Ironwood]

I liked it even though, as you say, it's been done countless times before.

I'd much rather have a flatline than a peak and then 8 troughs.

[palmer_eldritch]

Seeing Amy try to jump on the Doctor the night before her wedding in last week's episode made me like her a bit less.

[Mattemeo]

A nifty little episode, rather Who-by-numbers but I'm generally happy with that so long as it's entertaining. Lots to like, too... especially the pre-titles scene.

[NowhereMan]

Like people said, a very standard Who episode but since I felt the first few big episodes were really just trying and failing to be big impressive episodes I liked it. Next weeks looks like it could be a really good one too, seems slightly different from the average without trying to just be 'big'.

[HaemishM]

The first part of the Weeping Angels episode was fantastic. It made up for the shitty Daleks episode, and made me really want to get to the part where the Doctor marries/shacks up with River Song.

[Ironwood]

Don't watch the second part.

 

[01101010]

Don't watch the second part.

 

I hate you.

[NowhereMan]

But he's right. The second part probably wasn't any worse than the two before it but after the first one was so solid it was a big let down.

[Simond]

I liked it even though, as you say, it's been done countless times before.

I'd much rather have a flatline than a peak and then 8 troughs.

Don't watch the second part.

 

You preferred generic seen it all before a million times Dr Who by-the-numbers to the Angels two-parter? Really?

[Ironwood]

Have you read any of the thread ?  Like, maybe the last couple of pages where I gave my....review of the Angels ?

A fucking trainwreck.

So, yeah, really.

[Signe]

I just watched this last night and I can't, for the life of me, remember how it ended.   

[Furiously]

I watched blink on netflix last night. That was enjoyable.

[Ironwood]

Blink was awesome.

Absolutely fucking awesome.  In almost every way.


Such a shame.

[Triforcer]

I'm curious.  When did the Angels go from freezing when people looked at them to freezing when people FAKE looking at them, with their eyes closed?

That was about the time I wandered away and forgot to watch the rest. 

[NowhereMan]

In that case you should also be wondering when the Angels managed to start looking at each without freezing. I'm pretty sure that not only were there a few clearly seeing other Angels in that scene but just having that number of angels around pretty much guarantees a load of them catch sight of the others and are frozen forever. The second part was horrible.

[Ironwood]

Plot holes I could drive a bus through.

Plot holes so big, I could fill them with King Kong and Godzilla.

Plots holes that I could almmmmost manage to squeeze my penis into.

[Surlyboi]

It's that small? 

[Samwise]

In that case you should also be wondering when the Angels managed to start looking at each without freezing. I'm pretty sure that not only were there a few clearly seeing other Angels in that scene but just having that number of angels around pretty much guarantees a load of them catch sight of the others and are frozen forever. The second part was horrible.

This was my biggest problem with that episode.  The clever trick the Doctor used in Blink just suddenly doesn't work, for no particular reason.

[Slyfeind]

Wow. Part 2 of the weeping angels was one of the most awesome brilliant things I've seen on TV in a long time, and those who don't like it are clearly the retarded children of Sarah Palin's retarded children's incestuous pairing. No, worse than that. Whatever's worse than that. Every square inch of that episode was distilled goodness.

[NowhereMan]

....

Anyway the last episode was pretty good. Not great but I felt it worked well and worked plot-wise