Heroes

[Lakov_Sanite]

I would have accepted the 'for a girl' reasoning more if they'd stuck with it since day one but it felt like they added it later, hence the gathering people thing didn't make sense.  

More than that though what bothers me about last season is that samuel destroyed an entire fucking town.  Women, children...innocent people left and right by what can only be assumed the hundreds, if not thousands.  All this of course while his carnival could watch from their vantage point.  If samuel is not summarily forced into exile or brought down by the carnies then I have lost faith in any kind of believable writing on this show.

I'm sorry but carnie-man is not charismatic and his followers not fanatical enough to just go along with mass murder in front of their faces. There is no world or timeline where this would be believable.  Sure some of the carnies would probably go along with it(multiple man,invisibitch) but you can't tell me that entire carnival is morally questionable people who will shrug off a towns destruction or just get weird feelings about it.  

[HaemishM]

The fact that tattoo chick is still allowing Samuel to lead after finding out he killed his brother, their rightful leader, is something I've not been able to get behind. There are, as usual, too many characters acting like idiots for no good reason other than to advance the plot. I'm annoyed that Hiro is still being used for cutesy comedy relief instead of seeing him morph into badass Hiro from the future, who was way more interesting. They still have no fucking idea what to do with Parkman - why he's not in jail and how that family is living with his cop salary gone makes no sense to me other than maybe he used his powers to make people forget it.

[Threash]

I would have accepted the 'for a girl' reasoning more if they'd stuck with it since day one but it felt like they added it later, hence the gathering people thing didn't make sense.  

More than that though what bothers me about last season is that samuel destroyed an entire fucking town.  Women, children...innocent people left and right by what can only be assumed the hundreds, if not thousands.  All this of course while his carnival could watch from their vantage point.  If samuel is not summarily forced into exile or brought down by the carnies then I have lost faith in any kind of believable writing on this show.

I'm sorry but carnie-man is not charismatic and his followers not fanatical enough to just go along with mass murder in front of their faces. There is no world or timeline where this would be believable.  Sure some of the carnies would probably go along with it(multiple man,invisibitch) but you can't tell me that entire carnival is morally questionable people who will shrug off a towns destruction or just get weird feelings about it.  

That wasn't a town full of people, that was where the carnies were going to live.  They lost me with Hiros magical mommy love brain tumor cure.

[Threash]

I would have accepted the 'for a girl' reasoning more if they'd stuck with it since day one but it felt like they added it later, hence the gathering people thing didn't make sense.  

More than that though what bothers me about last season is that samuel destroyed an entire fucking town.  Women, children...innocent people left and right by what can only be assumed the hundreds, if not thousands.  All this of course while his carnival could watch from their vantage point.  If samuel is not summarily forced into exile or brought down by the carnies then I have lost faith in any kind of believable writing on this show.

I'm sorry but carnie-man is not charismatic and his followers not fanatical enough to just go along with mass murder in front of their faces. There is no world or timeline where this would be believable.  Sure some of the carnies would probably go along with it(multiple man,invisibitch) but you can't tell me that entire carnival is morally questionable people who will shrug off a towns destruction or just get weird feelings about it.  

That wasn't a town full of people, that was where the carnies were going to live.  They lost me with Hiros magical mommy love brain tumor cure.

Well thats what i get for speaking while being an episode behind, guess it was a town full of people.

[Tebonas]

Everybody on this show is so retarded it physically hurts!

"Samuel killed a whole town of innocents. We don't like him anymore!"

Boom Boom

"Somebody shot at us, so its ok that Samuel killed a whole town"

 

[Jeff Kelly]

Some of you are still watching? Don't you have anything better to do with your time, like reading a book or another Trammel discussion? 

I gave up on heroes. I might watch again if the studio gives me the opportunity to punch a script writer in the groin every time they write stupid shit for heroes episodes which would be nearly constantly nowadays.

The amount of retardedness displayed by every character on Heroes combined with too many WTF? moments just make it painful to wath for me.

[Tebonas]

I have to watch SOMETHING while using the rowing machine. 2 episodes of whatever (or 4 episodes of whatever half hour sitcomy). But you are right, banging my head against the wall till I pass out begins to sound like the better alternative...

[Jeff Kelly]

Watching ingrain wallpaper is more amusing (Would anybody outside D/A/CH care about a Bernd das Brot reference?)

Do you need to watch something or just something to occupy your mind during the mindless act of rowing?

There are a lot of really great podcasts available. I usually listen to one of those during sports.

Alternatively watch an hour of Chuck or fill up the comedy block with daily show or colbert report episodes. Maybe it's a good time to catch up on Lost?

[Tebonas]

That becomes OOC, but this is the Heroes thread, so who cares.

I watch the TV shows during rowing, and I listen to my Podcasts during bicycle training. Interchanging those two things takes away the reasons to go biking (hey, I want to hear that podcast, guess I'll have to ride the bike). Yeah, thats dumb. But its how I work. Parallel to that, I use TV series as reward for the rowing. Heroes is just a "until the other stuff is on schedule again" filler. Sadly, I'm up to date on Lost 

[HaemishM]

I'm the eternal optimist. I keep hoping and praying that somewhere in all the false threads and red herrings, a good show will magically appear out of this thing. It's not going to, but I keep hoping. I'm what's wrong with America.

Yeah, the latest episode was really fucking dumb. Do none of the carnie folk stop to consider that even though she can't be killed with a bullet, Claire's dad would never shoot her in the neck unless she was held hostage? And Parkman's attempt to wall Sylar up in his fucking basement? WHAT? Sure, I know you've done your mind mojo on him to trap him in his own mind, but you really aren't going to put a stake in the back of his head to make sure he never gets out of there? REALLY? You were willing to commit suicide by cop to keep his consciousness locked up and now you get all squeamish? No.

There was a point around mid-season where I thought they might be going somewhere good. They haven't. Like a fucking moron, I'll watch til the season's end.

[DLRiley]

I know everyone here watches stargate universe so Heroes gets a pass by default.

[Hoax]

Last episode for me, they couldn't botch Claire's character and make her more obnoxious if they wanted to.  Fuck this entire Carnival arc, could have been good but they fail so hard.

Man this show pisses me off.

I hate that I keep watching this shit.

[Lakov_Sanite]

I actually haven't seen the last two episodes with no plan to.

*dusts off his hands* I'm out.

[Lianka]

But it's apparently some kind of finale, no?  What's with series ending in February these days?

[Grimwell]

My wife and I have stuck with it... hey we have kids so we can't go do something interesting on a Monday night now can we?

All I'm going to say is...

[Merusk]

This is on still?  I've been watching House, and Big Bang Theory.. while inexcusably giving 2 1/2 men a half hour of "on tv time" just so I don't forget to turn it back on for BBT.

[Tebonas]

I'm glad this retarded show is over. Hiro teleporting out everybody except Samuel instead of just Samuel was the final straw. So many people can't be that stupid!

[Demetra]

I've been watching House, and Big Bang Theory.. while inexcusably giving 2 1/2 men a half hour of "on tv time" just so I don't forget to turn it back on for BBT.

This.

How can the same creators of a show as good as BBT make one as miserable as 2 and 1/2 men?  I turn the damned thing on too but I leave the sound down as low as possible.

[Grimwell]

I get over the quality bumps because I'm watching with my wife - it's our "Zone out" time at the end of the day while the kids are going to bed. We DVR and watch House, Heroes, Big Bang Theory, and How I Met Your Mother. After that it's random things from Netflix like Torchwood.

After sleeping on it, I'm still convinced that the show took a turn last night... for the worse. They have danced on the edge of this plot line in every season, but a part of what made the show's core was that they never crossed it. Now they have in the "main" timeline, at least until Hiro "fixes" it with another plot patch.

The writing for it wasn't too bad though, I think that the writer did a good job of it. Also, Hiro learning some discretion was handled well and past due. So it wasn't mind melting horror, it was brain candy with a huge tell toward the inevitable end now that they've crossed the line.

[Bunk]

It was fine if you turn your brain off and don't try to analyze any of the plot points.

Ray Park wants to kill Samuel, and asks Noah for a plan! Which was apparently; they'll walk in and say "It wasn't me, it was you!" as Ray Park is not seen again...

Peter and Sylar go to save the day! Peter apparently forgets that touching Sylar would give him everyone's power, and instead waits to steal Samuel's - so we can have a "cool" showdown.

Didn't Cello girl have to actively think about the people she was drawing in the first time she used that power? Otherwise, everytime she played in the hospital, the whole building would have migrated to her...

Hiro having to teleport the whole carny away (rather than just stop time and walk up to Samuel and teleport him to the moon or something) was entirly so that they could impress us by showing that they actually remembered what Ando's power actually does, a season and a half later.

I did like the resolution with Hiro's girlfriend, and I did like the final shot being a nod to Clair's first scene from the series.

[Threash]

Peter and Sylar go to save the day! Peter apparently forgets that touching Sylar would give him everyone's power, and instead waits to steal Samuel's - so we can have a "cool" showdown.

Not that i want to defend this ridiculous show or anything but there's really no reason why it has to work that way, it seems more likely that he would take Sylars power stealing power or whatever he used last rather than everything.  Whoever played old Charlie looked exactly like what an old Charlie would look like, down to the mannerism and way of speaking, nice job there.

[Samwise]

I thought it was a pretty decent episode.  Hopefully there'll be one more season to wrap things up and they'll call it done.  Publicizing the "heroes" had to happen sometime but is not going to be good for the show's long-term prospects.

[Grimwell]

Aye, I'm predicting a reference to an X-Men "Let's hunt the mutants!" type of plot, and then Hiro will wake up, as a young kid, and the show will just have been a dream. 

[HaemishM]

It took too long to get to the showdown with Samuel so that there wasn't more KPOW! SMACK! but at least they finally got done with it. As always with Heroes, needs more 4-color power fights. BUT... the reveal to the world of the presence of powered individuals should have been done two seasons ago. They've really run out the string on ways to keep shit like that hidden, and it is part of what made the show suffer. If there is another season, I'll at least give it a few more episodes on the strength of that alone.

[raydeen]

Y'know, we are totally watching Heroes in the wrong language.

http://www.youtube.com/user/heroesjp?blend=1&ob=4

[Abagadro]

Canceled

[UnSub]

I await the inevitable "Save Heroes, Save The World!" campaign.

[Samwise]

Should have been canceled after season 1 ended.  Shame about the reasonably good actors that are now forever tainted by the bad writing in the last couple of seasons.

[Lakov_Sanite]

Awesome premise and for the most part, good actors.

 I was a huge fan, then a mild fan, then a disenfranchised fan, then a hopeful fan and then I hated it.

They really screwed this pooch.

[Sir T]

Its a good thing they cleverly announced this just before the last episode of Lost where it will be drowned out by the inevitable fan rage 

[Tebonas]

Good, it was really painful to watch near the end.

I'll miss some of the actors and hope they return elsewhere, but the writing never recovered after the post-season 1 drop in quality.

[Mrbloodworth]

so, thats it. The whole carnival thing was season 4 yeah?

[Cyrrex]

I was kinda hoping that they would get the chance to wrap it up.  Despite the swift decline, I wanted to see some closure.

[Venkman]

Ha, you only thought Sylar was dead. The 30th tiime.

Heroes Reborn

2015. No details. Hiro didn't know about it.

And can't believe it came out all the way in 2006. I mean dammmnnn, that was so long ago I think I was still playing WoW... /old

[jgsugden]

The idea itself was not bad - just most of the execution.  So this semi-reboot could be good, or just as bad.  I doubt we'll see much of the popular characters as they're either on to movies or locked up on other shows.