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CmdrSlack
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I traded in my fun blog for several legal blogs. Or, "blawgs," as the cutesy attorney blawgosphere likes to call 'em.
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Signe
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I can no longer figure out who's dead, who's come back from the dead, who has what powers, when they're in the past, present or future and if they should be dead during that time, who's good and who's evil, whether or not I've lost my debit card or if my kitty has swatted it under something again - I simply can't keep anything straight! Watching the season opener, I kept feeling as if I had missed something - like an entire season.
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Abagadro
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It's basically the exact same plot from the last two seasons which is one of the reasons I'm about to give up on this show.
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"As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.”
-H.L. Mencken
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Lakov_Sanite
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Evil Elvis
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bennet+sylar? Yep, with an extra side of  |
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Venkman
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Two things:
1) That Sylar is being used but gets to do cool stuff anyway. And he really does steal the scene. It's so obvious he's being used and set up that I don't mind the pairing. It's not like he's being forgiven and now suddenly a good guy. THAT would be shark jumping.
2) That the whole Peter-being-the-sad-trapped-Jesse was resolved so quickly. God they could have abused that for six or so episodes easily.
As usual the Hiro bits were awesome (caper music in the move theatre, awesome). I don't like the Hiro/Ando split being set up though. Speedie chick is easy on the eyes too.
This season is what the last season should have been. Maybe it's back on track, figure next episode clinches it or drives it off the cliff.
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Jain Zar
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That was crap, watchable because the hotties have multiplied (Maya, Elle, Claire) but I really lost track of season2 so I hope they give me a reason to give a fuck in a hurry or I'm going to stop tuning in.
SPOILERS ROUGHLY ALLUDED TO BELOW. ^^^ I'm with you on this one. So far Season 3 has been EVERYTHING I HATE IN COMICS BUT ON THE TV INSTEAD. Nobody stays dead, dumb soap opera plots, pro wrestling heel turns, THE SAME FUCKING PLOT OF THE FIRST 2 SEASONS. Seriously. NO MORE TIME TRAVEL. I no longer want to see this oh shit horrible future that is changed every year and how will our band of clueless but generally attractive dimwits solve things yet still leave the main villain alive and more overpowered than before. They are even power repeating, and throwing in experiments, missing twins, people acting totally out of character, and just the SAME BASIC SHIT done again, only this time its head slapping, and constant thoughts of "REALLY?". I didn't mind season 1 and 2 outside of Sylar who should have died in Season 1's finale and anything less is shitty horror movie/shitty comic book cockamamie fucktardery. Right now I think I watched episode 2 and 3 mostly out of inertia for the previous 2 seasons. If I had a Neilsen box I would have quit after the first episode out of protest at the stupid. And I like Torchwood. I can handle things that are supposed to suck. I can tolerate characters being dumbasses. Heroes is just taking  to all new levels. It better not take away viewers from Sarah Connor Chronicles though. I actually LIKE that show right now and don't want to see it end up like most other Fox shows. |
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Signe
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I don't know, Darniaq. The latest advert looks as if they're heading towards making Sylar a good guy or something. I'm already very confused, even more confused than Lost used to make me. If they keep the confusion going like this, I will either stop watching or become a very passive watcher. You know, the sort that just stares at the screen for an hour and comments about how someone looks like someone else. Hiro is still my favourite, too.  |
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Nevermore
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As long as the Hiro subplot is entertaining, I'll still enjoy the show. I really liked the interplay between Hiro/Andro and Daphne. It was light-hearted and fun. The duplication of powers doesn't really bother me that much because there could just be a finite number of powers people have access to, sort of like there's only a certain range of colors a person's eyes or hair can be based upon their genes. Tracy and Molly's dad both happened to draw the 'cold powers' gene, for example. As long as the rational for powers in the Heroes universe is internally consistent, it's not a big deal to me that there's some duplications. In a way, it actually makes more sense than everyone having a completely unique power. So, Zimmerman makes Tracy/Nikki/Jessica clones, eh?  The subplot I'm really disliking is the Sylar 'anti-hero' plot. Especially is sudden concern and deference to Noah. I realize they had to expand his character to more than just a 'I kill you for your powers' cardboard cutout, but this sudden 180 is a bit much. I realize why they keep using the whole time-travel schtick, but it's also getting somewhat tired. There's something to be said for people trying to deal with an unknown future, rather than so many people having everything laid out for them. Also, apparently Peter has the ability to absorb everyone's capacity to be a dumbass because he's such an enormous dumbass he had to have absorb the dumbassness of everyone he's ever met. I'll say this, though. Even bad Heroes is better than 90% of the rest of the crap on TV, so there's no reason to not stick with it until it *really* goes off the deep end. |
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Cyrrex
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I liked this last episode just fine. Better pacing than last week. The Sylar subplot doesn't bother me much, because in the end, despite how they dangle it in front of us, he is ultimately a creep and a lunatic. At worst, this will all just add a bit more depth to him as he rationalizes his actions, but I don't think we're meant to forget what pschypath he is.
Everything with Hiro is gold. And Ando is even better.
I hate future Peter, but of course, we are supposed to hate him. Because we like present Peter so much (don't we?), we can't bear to see him going down that path. That's the point, right?
The subplot pissing me off the most is Clair's mommy suddenly coming back into the picture. It doesn't seem plausible, and I cannot imagine anything interesting coming out of it. It was just weird.
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Oz
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I really liked the interplay between Hiro/Andro and Daphne. It was light-hearted and fun.
I absolutely love that Hiro keeps calling Daphne Nemesis. Cracks my shit up. |
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Ookii
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Anyone interpret that painting of Parkman's original future as him with Daphne? The girl in the painting sort of looked like her.
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Abagadro
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Last night was better simply by being Mohinder-free.
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"As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.”
-H.L. Mencken
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schild
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I really liked the interplay between Hiro/Andro and Daphne. It was light-hearted and fun.
I absolutely love that Hiro keeps calling Daphne Nemesis. Cracks my shit up. It is exceptionally Japanese of them. I love and hate Heroes at this point. I hate that making a second Niki is their out to keeping that actress on the show though. Bitch still sucks. |
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Rishathra
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I don't remember her dying in Season 2. Am I just blocking out the pain or was her death just revealed?
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Abagadro
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She blowed up in a building after saving muscle-memory chick who has apparently memoried her way off the show.
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"As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.”
-H.L. Mencken
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Tebonas
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Yes, seems that was a worthless sacrifice if Taskmasterette is gone for good.
Overall, I liked this episode. Sylar hasn't turned good, he still is a creep and a psycho with a new all-you-can-eat buffet, the Company still gets in bed with the devil "for the greater good" without thinking too much about the side effects. And Noah will try to use him and then get rid of him. Sound characterisation for everyone involved.
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Venkman
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Yea, I don't mind the twists here because they still show Ma Petrelli as a conniving witch and Noah as a schemer. I always liked that double-sided insight into his personality: a good family man that will kill to get what he needs done, whether it involves protecting his family or is just part of the job. Thing I remembered from Monday's episode: what's the deal with Sylar going for Jesse's brain, we seeing the blood splatter on the closed door, but then them both being escorted back to level 5? Did the Haitian show up? Did Sylar just upper cut the guy? I missed something there. And where was Sylar when future Peter showed up to stop time? I assume he stopped time outside too, but either it's a plot hole that future Peter didn't take out Sylar while he had a chance, or Sylar's not a threat, or as Petrelli dreamed, Sylar's actually become a good guy. If this was season 1 I'd assume this was intended and we'll learn about it later. But given the travesty of season 2, I could as easily believe sloppy plot. The latest advert looks as if they're heading towards making Sylar a good guy or something Yea, that was wierd. I would have liked to have seen Petrelli spend at least another 10-15 minutes (depicted over a day or two inshow time) getting Sylar to come around to the idea of not just consuming people's powers. As it is, they really just jumped from everyone-enemy psycho to Noah's sidekick in a big hurry. And did Daphne call Hiro "Time Warp" again? I loved that from Ep 1. |
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Cyrrex
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I don't think Sylar will become good any more than I think edgy almost-bad-guy future Peter will happen. Once again, they are just showing possible futures. I think people like their good Peter and their bad Sylar. Hard to see the writers changing that long term, though they will dangle it around for a bit.
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MrHat
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Thing I remembered from Monday's episode: what's the deal with Sylar going for Jesse's brain, we seeing the blood splatter on the closed door, but then them both being escorted back to level 5? Did the Haitian show up? Did Sylar just upper cut the guy? I missed something there. It was Mr. Terror and Fire-Guy. |
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Signe
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I think there might be a good Sylar in some dimension or future or past or what ever the hell they come up with. I don't mind. Don't comics do this sort of thing all the time? I just want to be able to keep things straight. I like the show and would like to be less confused while I watch it. I think I miss some things while I'm trying to suss other things. In any case, I'm not ready to give up on it yet. I didn't give up on Lost and they got a wee bit better last season. I think. I could be confused.
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HaemishM
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They are definitely trying to keep the pacing fast fast fast this season. It may be going a little too fast, such as the Sylar/Noah buddy cop scenario. I think it's not totally out of character for Sylar to be trying to do good... after all, his whole excuse for taking the powers was he wanted to be special. And he kept talking about how he wanted to be the one to save New York from Peter blowing up. In his own twisted way, I think he wants to be good, but the hunger for more powers drives him to slice up skulls.
Too bad they killed Mr. Magnetism.
I'm still not sure why they'd bring Claire's mom back to "protect" Claire. Hottie can't be hurt... what's a fire-throwing chick going to do to help?
The show definitely needs more badass sword-wielding Hiro.
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Venkman
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Thing I remembered from Monday's episode: what's the deal with Sylar going for Jesse's brain, we seeing the blood splatter on the closed door, but then them both being escorted back to level 5? Did the Haitian show up? Did Sylar just upper cut the guy? I missed something there. It was Mr. Terror and Fire-Guy. Oh wait. So Mr Terror bolted out the back door when Sylar Darth Vader'd Jesse and took his brain. I forgot about Fire Guy though. So it must have been Fire Guy escorted back to Level 5. |
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MrHat
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Out of the frying pan, into the fire.
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It was.
I wish they didn't lock them up so quick. I love Marlo.
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Cyrrex
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The guy you guys are calling Mr. Terror - what was his power, exactly? He seemed quick and strong, was that all it was?
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MrHat
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Out of the frying pan, into the fire.
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The guy you guys are calling Mr. Terror - what was his power, exactly? He seemed quick and strong, was that all it was?
He'd get incredibly strong when people around him were afraid. |
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Merusk
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Anyone interpret that painting of Parkman's original future as him with Daphne? The girl in the painting sort of looked like her.
My wife did. I thought it was his first wife until I remembered she was a brunette. |
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Lakov_Sanite
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Anyone interpret that painting of Parkman's original future as him with Daphne? The girl in the painting sort of looked like her.
My wife did. I thought it was his first wife until I remembered she was a brunette. Looks like the FBI girl he was partnered with in this first season, audrey hanson. Also andrew hanson was the name sylar was using when posing as an agent.  |
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Ookii
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Lakov_Sanite
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I'm saying the fbi girl is the one in the painting, not that they're the same actress, those paintings are always intentionally obscure so of course you're supposed to think it the new short blonde haired girl
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Ookii
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Oh I know, I just felt like posting both of their pictures.
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schild
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The speeder is passable. The FBI chick is one of those too homely for celebrity-dom but never really got famous actresses that somehow keeps getting work. Once in a blue moon, Selma Blair falls into that category.
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AngryGumball
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Too bad they killed Mr. Magnetism.
I'm still not sure why they'd bring Claire's mom back to "protect" Claire. Hottie can't be hurt... what's a fire-throwing chick going to do to help?
Claire has no ability to fight someone who attacks her or defend herself or protect the lives of others, like her adopted mother and brother. Flame Mother has the ability and nerve/mindset/training to actually defend herself by attacking said person who would cause harm. Best defense is good offense? |
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Evildrider
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Claire can't die.. she also can't do jack all else.
So she's pretty worthless as a hero really.
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