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Reply #840 on: February 23, 2014, 10:09:17 AM

Why would they do this?  That show was TERRIBLE toward the end, and I doubt they've done any soul-searching to figure out how to make it good again.
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Reply #841 on: February 23, 2014, 10:12:45 AM

I hope they bring back Brian Fuller of season 1 instead of Tim Kring of every other season.

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Reply #842 on: February 23, 2014, 10:45:22 AM

I liked it in the beginning but after a bit I wasn't sure if I was losing the plot or if they were.  Same with Lost... everything just sort of swirled around for a bit and then went down the drain.  Confusing.  Having said that, I bet both shows would be awesome on acid.

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Reply #843 on: February 23, 2014, 11:02:17 AM

It suffered from the series of writer's strikes that took place in that time.  Season one was really good but they took some terrible tangents.
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Reply #844 on: February 23, 2014, 11:28:39 AM

Season one wasn't even that good at the end.  There was a lot of great buildup to a very weak season finale, and the show just declined from there.
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Reply #845 on: February 23, 2014, 11:37:36 AM

I remember the season one finale more fondly that the other ones because they haven't tried the exact same plot again numerous times yet.
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Reply #846 on: February 23, 2014, 11:44:37 AM

They need to ditch the time travel and the two guys who accumulate every super-power, ever.  Oh, and stop with the 'he's a bad guy, no he's not, yes he is' idiocy.

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Reply #847 on: February 23, 2014, 11:52:13 AM

I had hope for that series until the Season 1 finale.  Everyone seemed to forget that Peter could just fly himself away and didn't need his brother to do it.  That type of amazingly horrible oversight .... ugh.

I would welcome a total reboot more than a continuation with new characters as the idea they originally sold - a 'what would really happen if people started showing up with superpowers' could be interesting if it did not devolve into the stuff we saw with this show.


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Reply #848 on: February 23, 2014, 01:12:47 PM

Why would they do this?  That show was TERRIBLE toward the end, and I doubt they've done any soul-searching to figure out how to make it good again.

This. GOD, it was SO FUCKING BAD. If I had to put a ratio on the good parts to bad parts, it was about 75% shit.

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Reply #849 on: February 23, 2014, 04:28:22 PM

Season one wasn't even that good at the end.  There was a lot of great buildup to a very weak season finale, and the show just declined from there.

My exact reason for quitting.  They had this amazing setup where Sylar takes on four or five 'good' guys and it was soooo lame. 
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Reply #850 on: February 23, 2014, 05:33:33 PM

I had hope for that series until the Season 1 finale.  Everyone seemed to forget that Peter could just fly himself away and didn't need his brother to do it.  That type of amazingly horrible oversight .... ugh.

I would welcome a total reboot more than a continuation with new characters as the idea they originally sold - a 'what would really happen if people started showing up with superpowers' could be interesting if it did not devolve into the stuff we saw with this show.



Show ended up being horrible so no disagreement there but wasn't the peter thing explained as he was concentrating on not exploding and couldn't fly?

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Reply #851 on: February 23, 2014, 06:05:56 PM

Yeah, the real plot hole was that Claire's plan of just shooting him in the fucking head would have worked just fine without the other guy having to sacrifice himself also.

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Reply #852 on: February 23, 2014, 06:51:48 PM

I hope they bring back Brian Fuller of season 1 instead of Tim Kring of every other season.

Fuller is doing Hannibal these days so chances of his return would be pretty slim. On the plus side it would also be unlikely for Jeph Loeb to return since he works on Marvel's TV stuff.
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Reply #853 on: February 23, 2014, 08:20:03 PM

...Show ended up being horrible so no disagreement there but wasn't the peter thing explained as he was concentrating on not exploding and couldn't fly?
That was the explanation they gave once season 2 began, but it was not the thinking at the time.  If you want to hear an amusing interview, look for the one that Kring gave a few days after the finale aired in which he is dumbfounded by this very questions.

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Reply #854 on: February 24, 2014, 12:36:32 AM

IMO, one of the big problems Heroes suffered with from season 2 and onwards were simply the production values.  It is hard to put a finger on exactly what it is, but NBC has cornered the market on the cheesy, over-lit and over colored soap opera style video production.  I could never get over the feeling that where season 1 felt well directed and produced, and had some kind of soul, that they then literally decided to cheapen or simplify everything.  Put it all on the same fucking stage at the 30 Rock location as every other piece of shit they produce.  That shit doesn't work for this kind of show.  I get a completely different feeling when watching S01 compared to any of the other seasons, and the writing is only part of it.

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Reply #855 on: February 24, 2014, 03:12:19 AM

It's not just that.  Soap opera is exactly the right term because it was a prime time soap and not treated like a "real" show, because supers.

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Reply #856 on: February 24, 2014, 03:52:00 AM

Bad Show was Bad.

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