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Reply #70 on: September 02, 2008, 06:02:05 PM

I don't have any porn.  What the hell is my excuse?

Dammit.

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Reply #71 on: September 02, 2008, 06:03:40 PM

Okay I'm on my PC now and not having configurable cookies makes this an immediate fail for me. I need to have all cookies blocked except for those sites I explicitly allow and I don't see a way to do that. So much for being a "privacy"-oriented browser (no, incognito mode is not the same thing).

On an unrelated note Microsoft must be shitting bricks over this thing. With Chrome Google can now optimize their Web apps for Chrome to provide a more seamless integration. And I'm not just talking about having custom buttons to launch various apps. E.g. Google can now create their own protocols and APIs for working around the stateless and asynchronous nature of HTTP and they don't have to worry about convincing other browser vendors to incorporate them up front since they can just do it for Chrome and the rest (except for MS, of course) will follow.

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Reply #72 on: September 02, 2008, 06:05:59 PM

I don't have any porn.  What the hell is my excuse?

Dammit.

S'ok, my girlfriend is like that too. Must be a woman thing.  awesome, for real

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Reply #73 on: September 02, 2008, 06:39:42 PM

Women can pretty much get it whenever they want... So they don't really need porn!   awesome, for real
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Reply #74 on: September 02, 2008, 06:43:40 PM

It doesn't seem to operate any faster than Firefox for me. Both are fast imho.
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Reply #75 on: September 02, 2008, 08:08:13 PM

Not having a real window frame to stick a page title really really really sucks. I can't tell any of my f13 pages/tabs apart -- they all just read "f13.net foru..."

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Reply #76 on: September 02, 2008, 08:46:38 PM

Hmmmm, mine have the first 6 letters of the thread title, which is enough. But then, I'm at 1920x1200.
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Reply #77 on: September 02, 2008, 08:54:08 PM

Hmmmm, mine have the first 6 letters of the thread title, which is enough. But then, I'm at 1920x1200.
Yeah sucks to be me running at 1024 x 768 ACK!
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Reply #78 on: September 02, 2008, 08:55:00 PM

Not givin' up my ad blocker or search keywords.  But I do hope that the other browsers pillage the useful bits, progress is gud.
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Reply #79 on: September 02, 2008, 08:58:10 PM

Is there a legal issue with them putting in an ad blocker?  I mean they run a vast ad network and they'd never block their own ads.  If they started going out and blocking everyone else's ads then they'd be in a huge shitstorm with the rest of the internet, I assume someone would bring legal action against them.

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Reply #80 on: September 02, 2008, 09:23:35 PM

It's neat but a bit feature-light and I don't dig the interface quite yet.  It's pretty cool though.

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Reply #81 on: September 02, 2008, 09:37:37 PM

We are all beautiful and unique snowflakes that want to mouse-refresh our porn from a secret bookmark.
If I was an add-that-quotation-to-my-signature kind of guy, that would go there.

Anyone know if there's a way to modify the search window?  I'm glad that it goes to google by default, but I'd like the option of adding wikipedia.

Edit: Also, it'd be pretty rad if F13 would show up as something other than a broken camera in my most visited list.  Schild..?

Edit Edit: First irritation: I have my Vista taskbar set up so that it hides itself unless I mouse to the bottom of the screen.  When I'm in Chrome and I move the mouse, the taskbar doesn't show up.  Makes finding out the time a little bit trickier.
« Last Edit: September 02, 2008, 09:55:24 PM by DeathInABottle »
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Reply #82 on: September 02, 2008, 09:42:45 PM

I can highlight text and then Right-click to select <Search Google for 'such and such'>. Nifty.

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Reply #83 on: September 02, 2008, 10:30:39 PM

Initial reactions:
1) Why the hell doesn't it ask me where to install? I manually copied the files to where I want them. (though, I guess I can't really argue with putting things under Documents and Settings by default. Makes it more Linuxy)
2) Would it fucking kill them to just use the normal window dressing? I like title bars and file menus, thank you.

Still, might be worth it just for the task manager. Finally being able to know what retarded flash/java app is eating all my CPU is a godsend.
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Reply #84 on: September 03, 2008, 01:15:21 AM

Pretty soon we will be using Google TVs and Google Microwaves. They have way too much money and have no idea what to do with it all!

They do vitally important things like pay me to develop mobile operating systems, which keeps me off the streets!  I cannot comment on unannounced Google Kitchen Appliances.

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Reply #85 on: September 03, 2008, 01:21:53 AM

Edit: Also, it'd be pretty rad if F13 would show up as something other than a broken camera in my most visited list.  Schild..?
Need to see a screencap. I see the thumbnail of the forums list on my Most Visited section.
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Reply #86 on: September 03, 2008, 02:17:16 AM

Not massively impressed so far. Speed is a non-issue, firefox is fast enough. Needs a lot of work before it becomes usable for me:

No cookie management. Like Trippy I want all cookies blocked except ones I whitelist.
Need to be able to move UI elements. At the bare minimum I like my tab bar at the bottom of the screen, not the top.
Bookmark management (see firefox).
Configurable shortcut keys. CTRL+N is new tab for me, I hate it opening a new window.
Mouse gestures/mousewheel for scrolling between tabs
Vista window style = ugh
No choice on install location

So far it doesn't offer any improvement over firefox (for me) and has a lot of irritatiing limitations.
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Reply #87 on: September 03, 2008, 02:23:34 AM

I gave this a go, but it wasn't significantly faster than Firefox, and since I usually tab-hop while stuff loads (if it takes time) I didn't really see a massive benefit. Seeing ads on pages that I have never seen ads on before actually came as something of a shock, so now I'm back using FF3.

Also ditto on the already-mentioned complaints.

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Reply #88 on: September 03, 2008, 02:26:39 AM

Is this just another Step on Google's world domination plan? Or merely Google being fed up with all the current browsers out there?

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Reply #89 on: September 03, 2008, 02:32:25 AM

Is this just another Step on Google's world domination plan? Or merely Google being fed up with all the current browsers out there?

Can't it be both?

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Reply #90 on: September 03, 2008, 04:10:40 AM

I think it's more of a result of Google letting individuals and teams work on practically whatever the fuck it is they want. Googlepages and googlesites existing at the same time despite doing the same thing is a good indication of this...even if googlepages is way better than sites, which Google publically supports.

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Reply #91 on: September 03, 2008, 04:22:55 AM

One weird thing I'm seeing on several machines - check boxes are coming up as a mess of pixel puke instead of looking like boxes.  It's very odd.
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Reply #92 on: September 03, 2008, 05:50:25 AM

Did anyone bother to read the EULA (point 11 specifically)?

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"By submitting, posting or displaying the content you give Google a perpetual, irrevocable, worldwide, royalty-free, and non-exclusive license to reproduce, adapt, modify, translate, publish, publicly perform, publicly display and distribute any content which you submit, post or display on or through, the services. This license is for the sole purpose of enabling Google to display, distribute and promote the services and may be revoked for certain services as defined in the additional terms of those services."

It's a nice browser already in beta, but sheesh...
« Last Edit: September 03, 2008, 05:52:40 AM by nurtsi »
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Reply #93 on: September 03, 2008, 06:00:47 AM

Edit: Also, it'd be pretty rad if F13 would show up as something other than a broken camera in my most visited list.  Schild..?

Doesn't show up as a broken camera for me.
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Reply #94 on: September 03, 2008, 06:09:15 AM


2) Would it fucking kill them to just use the normal window dressing? I like title bars and file menus, thank you.

I love this feature.
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Reply #95 on: September 03, 2008, 06:32:24 AM

The install process was a bit weird, but Gears installs in the same way so I was expecting it.

Having played with Chrome again today I'm still really impressed by it, but without a Delicious plug-in/extension/whatever, it's pretty useless for me.

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Reply #96 on: September 03, 2008, 06:48:02 AM

For those who asked earlier, yes you can have multiple homepages setup in IE7, they all just open up in tabs.

Chrome looks pretty enough, seems to run pretty smooth. Almost runs our online software - the main app opens and runs fine, but it gives a Null error when you try to use the editor plugin (IE or FF would ask you to install the plugin at this point).

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Reply #97 on: September 03, 2008, 06:54:00 AM

I don't see the big deal.  And I really don't get those of you saying how fast it is, most everything already loads so fast I can't even notice it.  I also really don't want to have to code for another fucking browser at work, I've been able to ignore stuff like Opera because it's so unpopular and works well enough but a Google browser would easily take up as much market share as firefox.

Compared to firefox chrome also reverses the open in new tab/window order which is what I always use on this site and is driving me nuts.  Would it be possible to change the little new buttons in "unread posts since last visit" to open in new windows instead of the current one.  It doesn't really make sense to give people a list of twenty links and then have each link open in the same window, blowing away the rest of the list.  I would love that.  Love.  Heart.
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Reply #98 on: September 03, 2008, 07:56:27 AM

Google can now create their own protocols and APIs for working around the stateless and asynchronous nature of HTTP and they don't have to worry about  convincing other browser vendors to incorporate them up front since they can just do it for Chrome and the rest (except for MS, of course) will follow.

Why is their a need to work around stateless and asynchronous nature of HTTP?  Browser apps can do state and complex transactions and the difficulty in implementation is not dependent on it being done on a client or server or language.
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Reply #99 on: September 03, 2008, 09:15:22 AM

Still loving it, but it definitely needs work. Let me customize the UI so I can switch around the tab locations, give me easier bookmark organization, and give me my mouse gestures, and it's all good.

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Reply #100 on: September 03, 2008, 11:25:47 AM

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Reply #101 on: September 03, 2008, 11:29:47 AM

So I should upload a bunch of licensed material in the name of google? I'm sure that wasn't meant to be put in the EULA in that way.
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Reply #102 on: September 03, 2008, 11:49:35 AM

So I should upload a bunch of licensed material in the name of google? I'm sure that wasn't meant to be put in the EULA in that way.

LOL.

EULAs have been abused so much in the past that I wouldn't be shocked that what is says is what they meant. They do, after all, have a pretty damn big legal department.

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Reply #103 on: September 03, 2008, 11:52:59 AM

Maybe they weren't expecting 4chan to have threads about uploading Google-Branded CP. This EULA will get changed, just watch.
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Reply #104 on: September 03, 2008, 12:43:06 PM

Any mouse gestures? They are hard-coded into my DNA now.

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