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Reply #4060 on: January 12, 2018, 04:36:46 AM

So what IS the console of choice these days ?

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Reply #4061 on: January 12, 2018, 09:41:14 AM

Switch or PS4 (regular, not Pro).
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Reply #4062 on: January 12, 2018, 01:42:55 PM

Why not Pro ?

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Reply #4063 on: January 12, 2018, 03:14:13 PM

Basically Sony left it up to each developer/publisher how they want to support the more powerful hardware in the Pro. And the extra hardware in the Pro is not powerful enough to real native 4K at locked 30fps or 60fps for the most demanding graphics titles that do support 4k so compromises have to be made in various ways (less resolution upscaled or checkerboarding, FPS not locked, etc.). And 1080p users don't necessarily benefit from a better experience either. So if you care about this sort of thing you have to research each game you are thinking about getting to see whether or not it supports 4k or runs better at 1080p and what that experience might be like.

Digital Foundry is the best source I found for a technical examination of how games run on the PS4 Pro but they only examine a small subset of them:

https://www.youtube.com/user/DigitalFoundry/search?query=ps4+pro

Other references:

https://www.polygon.com/2017/6/5/15684152/playstation-4-pro-interview (state of the Pro back in June, not actually an interview)
http://www.ign.com/wikis/playstation-4/PS4_Pro_Game_Upgrades_and_Differences
https://www.extremetech.com/gaming/235274-how-sonys-playstation-4-pro-does-4k-without-delivering-4k
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Checkerboard_rendering
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Reply #4064 on: January 12, 2018, 03:57:16 PM

I would've bought a PS4 for the games, but I prefer the MS controller. Yes, I'm aware there are ways around that.

Still, apart from PS exclusives (which are enough to warrant buying the PS4 imo), the xbone is a solid machine that does what a console needs to do. Xbone S if you go that way.

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Reply #4065 on: January 12, 2018, 04:07:59 PM

I like my PS4 well enough but haven't compared vs the Xbone.

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Reply #4066 on: January 18, 2018, 11:31:44 AM

No one is buying Xboxen, from what I gather.

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Reply #4067 on: January 18, 2018, 12:00:36 PM

No one is buying Xboxen, from what I gather.
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Reply #4068 on: January 19, 2018, 04:14:47 PM

That's because everyone already has a PS4, jackass. awesome, for real

Why would MS give a Xbox to Terry Crews that had both his name and his face on it? Because they need to sell a few units and are scraping the fuck out of that barrel.

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Reply #4069 on: January 19, 2018, 04:53:03 PM

I honestly struggle to think of one game that I'd need to buy the Xbox One for - the latest Forza games are the only ones that come to mind. However, now that I have Gran Turismo Sport on the PS4, Forza has no draw.

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Reply #4070 on: January 19, 2018, 05:04:23 PM

If you have a decent gaming PC there's almost no reason to get an Xbox One cause all the newest Microsoft games like Forza are on both.
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Reply #4071 on: January 21, 2018, 02:44:11 PM

I'm just curious about the people still buying a 360 or PS3.

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Reply #4072 on: January 21, 2018, 02:56:55 PM

I've actually thought about getting a PS3 on the cheap just to grab some games I've missed but nothing has been so monumental that I have to go out and do it right this minute.

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Reply #4073 on: January 21, 2018, 10:15:23 PM

 The Switch has a fine lineup, but you've played literally all of it before. The Switch, also, I would not call a home console. It shines as a portable unit.

The PS4/Pro is the best box for just games.

The Xbox is a fucking joke and Microsoft should kill it. But if you really want to watch 4k Blu-Rays, the XboneS or whatever is your only option among the consoles.

tl;dr: This console generation is the exact same as EVERY OTHER GENERATION since the PlayStation first came out.
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Reply #4074 on: January 22, 2018, 11:20:12 AM

I've actually been really happy with my PS4 but I can say this generation is really the first console generation where there seems to be literally no reason to own every single console unless you are just OCD and have to have everything. Platform exclusives are so rare nowadays and I'm not sure there's enough of a difference in hardware for one to matter over the other. The Switch's portable option seems a neat trick but again unless you are a big Zelda or Mario fan, there's not much of a library for it to push it over a PS4 or Xbone.

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Reply #4075 on: January 24, 2018, 05:35:53 PM

Is anyone using a curved display for gaming? How is it? Does it distort/confuse the picture on the sides?

Something like this:     https://www.amazon.com/Samsung-34-Inch-Widescreen-Monitor-C34F791/dp/B01M1D7JVO

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Reply #4076 on: January 25, 2018, 10:02:27 AM

Is anyone using a curved display for gaming? How is it? Does it distort/confuse the picture on the sides?

Something like this:     https://www.amazon.com/Samsung-34-Inch-Widescreen-Monitor-C34F791/dp/B01M1D7JVO
If you sit at the focal point, it actually removes the distortion you have learned to ignore on flat screens. If you sit considerable closer or farther than that, no so much, but still no worse than a flat screen.

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Reply #4077 on: January 26, 2018, 05:49:24 AM

So. I am baffled.

I upgraded to a Geforce GTX 1060 6 GB.
I used to use a rather old Flatscreen TV (Telefunken brand, an old German manufactor that has been sold to some Turkish company and ceased to do any customer support at all) as my monitor via HDMI. There was the odd bug that I would only be able to boot up my PC when the HDMI cable was not connected to said TV, I could connect tit just fine once I got past the first windows screen.
Now. With my new Geforce card I run into a different problem. I can see my desktop on the TV but for some reason the TV itself does not seem to be able to detect that it is actually connected so I get a rather annoying pop up on the screen telling me the device is going to shut down in 5:00 minutes.
I'll try to rephrase that to make it more clear.

TLDR: I try to connect an old TV via HDMI to my PC and the TV does not detect the connection, but it displays the desktop just fine before shutting down after 5 minutes.

Any ideas ? German television is garbage so I have no other use for that thing. Oh ho ho ho. Reallllly?

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Reply #4078 on: January 27, 2018, 08:03:06 AM

Might be the cable, I had a similar ssue with a Dell monitor at work and it was the cheap minidisplay port cable they shipped with the monitor.

Telefunken used to make the best reel to reel tape recorders  why so serious?

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Reply #4079 on: January 28, 2018, 01:47:38 PM

My PC's power button appears to be dying; turning the PC on requires me to kinda wiggle the button and press several times to get it to boot up. Is this a replacable part, generally, or should I look into buying a new case? Are there any ways of booting a PC without using the power button?

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Reply #4080 on: January 28, 2018, 01:59:11 PM

The mechanism behind the button might be replaceable but it depends on how "custom" your case is (i.e. whether or not it uses a non-standard switch). You can also get a replacement generic switch and just bypass the button on the case. Some motherboards also have a setting in BIOS to power on via the keyboard. Otherwise in an emergency you can short the two power switch pins on the motherboard header yourself with a screwdriver, paperclip, etc.

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Reply #4081 on: January 28, 2018, 04:01:26 PM

So. I am baffled.

I upgraded to a Geforce GTX 1060 6 GB.
I used to use a rather old Flatscreen TV (Telefunken brand, an old German manufactor that has been sold to some Turkish company and ceased to do any customer support at all) as my monitor via HDMI. There was the odd bug that I would only be able to boot up my PC when the HDMI cable was not connected to said TV, I could connect tit just fine once I got past the first windows screen.
Now. With my new Geforce card I run into a different problem. I can see my desktop on the TV but for some reason the TV itself does not seem to be able to detect that it is actually connected so I get a rather annoying pop up on the screen telling me the device is going to shut down in 5:00 minutes.
I'll try to rephrase that to make it more clear.

TLDR: I try to connect an old TV via HDMI to my PC and the TV does not detect the connection, but it displays the desktop just fine before shutting down after 5 minutes.

Any ideas ? German television is garbage so I have no other use for that thing. Oh ho ho ho. Reallllly?

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Reply #4082 on: January 28, 2018, 04:37:28 PM

I added a Roccat Sova couch gaming keyboard.
Oooo....

I was wondering why nobody had made one yet. I probably should've invented that 15 years ago! Though I am pretty used to them being separate.

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Reply #4083 on: January 29, 2018, 11:14:32 AM

Might be the cable, I had a similar ssue with a Dell monitor at work and it was the cheap minidisplay port cable they shipped with the monitor.

Telefunken used to make the best reel to reel tape recorders  why so serious?
Tried different cables, no luck. I connected an Amazon Fire stick, just for testing purposes, same "no sognal detected" message.
Deactivated and then reactivated all avaible Sources in the OSD-menu and now at least the fire stick works.
Weird.

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