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July 19, 2025, 02:16:40 PM

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Ha ha Azazel's gaming is serious business.

It's hillarious that you guys still think the WII is a "fad" when it's been out, kicking everyone elses ass for 3 years... EONS for gaming systems. Not only are they capturing the regular gaming market, they are creating new markets... the fact that my 60 year old mother played a WII before I did is amazing.

Quote from: ahoythematey on July 27, 2008, 07:32:57 AM

I don't. The original Mario is boring, Zelda 1 isn't fun anymore. It was great then, it isn't now. You can get kind of a "huh, cool." impression seeing the design philosophy behind them, but no way are they more fun or engaging than the best of their subsequent games.

So you are saying you don't find SMB3 or LttP fun?

Quote from: ahoythematey on July 27, 2008, 11:30:06 AM

So you are saying you don't find SMB3 or LttP fun?

I did when I beat them a decade+ ago. I have no desire to play them now.

Must suck to be you.

Nah, I got plenty of better games to play now. That's sorta how it works.

Not really, no. Classics don't stop being fun just because something newer and improved comes along.

But some day you have to stop living in the past and see that most of that is just nostalgia...

And now on to some Nethack time.

Quote from: CharlieMopps on July 27, 2008, 11:02:05 AM

WoW has done these things, too. The trick will be if the next iteration does as well.

Quote from: ahoythematey on July 27, 2008, 11:45:25 AM

Not really, no. Classics don't stop being fun just because something newer and improved comes along.

Some people don't mind repetition. Some people need something different. Classics are that because they are remembered fondly and laid some of the design fundamentals of the gaming world. That doesn't mean they're fun for everyone now.

Quote from: CharlieMopps on July 27, 2008, 11:02:05 AM

It's hillarious that you guys still think the WII is a "fad" when it's been out, kicking everyone elses ass for 3 years... EONS for gaming systems.

I think you need to check your calendar again...

Quote from: Azazel on July 27, 2008, 04:27:35 AM

I now have about 58 360 games and 12 Wii games (including all the gimmicks/packins like Wii Fit, Sport, Play, Brain Training, Link's Crossbow). I've owned the Wii a year longer than I have owned the 360. I post these numbers not for e-peen (cos I know no-one gives a fuck), but to illustrate that if they put out more interesting non-shovelware stuff I would be buying it.

To be fair, you should also add a disclaimer that one of those 58 360 games is Beowulf.

Quote from: ahoythematey on July 27, 2008, 11:45:25 AM

Not really, no. Classics don't stop being fun just because something newer and improved comes along.

Actually, some do.

Monty on the Run was a fun game at the time. It has dated horribly, especially as 2D platformers moved to 3D. It still has awesome music though. Having played recent FPSs, I can't go back to Doom with its auto-aim on the vertical and no mouselook (and yeah, there are patches for it, but it isn't the same).

It's like "Citizen Kane" is a great movie of its time... but it's a bit klunky and it has been improved from since it was released.

Quote from: ahoythematey on July 27, 2008, 07:32:57 AM

So far I think UnSub wins this slapfight.

*UnSub has gained a level in Forum Warrior*

Quote from: ahoythematey on July 27, 2008, 07:32:57 AM

Nobody is disparaging you Azazel, no need to bring a wall of text here. I have a hard time understanding how a person could not smile wide and have fun with a classic like Super Mario Bros or The Legend of Zelda, regardless of genre preferences, and that is my viewpoint.

I do take umbrage with the idea that we, "like everything that's pumped out," as you put it, and I find it odd how personal you are taking what was really just a spin-off discussion about what traditional games/gamers include or don't include. You even did a bit of peen-waving with your list-drop at the top of the post, like touting a sad, real-life version of a gamerscore. Did a dingo steal your baby this morning, or something, to get you riled up so?

If the first games a person plays is what clearly defines their perspective of traditional and matters a great deal, I guess I'll throw my chips in: Chessmaster, King's Quest 3, Secret of Monkey Island(CGA version), Leisure Suit Larry, Marble Madness, Prince of Persia.

Didn't post for a few days, and saw multiple posts I wanted to reply to. Not really that different to 6 smaller posts. I thought a couple of people were being fuckwits, and decided to reply. As I said, noone cares what I've bought. My point was I buy a lot of games, and the Wii hasn't had much worth buying as my library is still very small, despite the thing being out for a year longer than the 360 and my having bought most of the "gimmicky" software.

My list of "games from the day" were to outline that I don't have a residual love of SMB or Zelda or Megaman from the 8-bit days, (that's where the lack of wide smile about some old games I never played at the time comes in) but I can still be pretty much a traditional gamer in many ways. The point about "everything that's pumped out" is just as valid or invalid as me thinking I can be a traditional gamer despite not wanting Mario's lovechild.

No Dingos, just a few Americans being ignorant loudmouthed self-important dickheads. Business as usual, then. awesome, for real

Occasionally I just enjoy writing a post like that. No bulging veins or wrong side of the bed.

Quote from: Margalis on July 27, 2008, 10:22:16 AM

Ha ha Azazel's gaming is serious business.

Look! Here's one now!
Seriously though, if you put words (and opinions) into another person's mouth, or misrepresent what they said, you can kinda expect them to be annoyed.

Full agreement with Fabricated and Lantyssa's points.

Quote from: Velorath on July 27, 2008, 06:13:45 PM

To be fair, you should also add a disclaimer that one of those 58 360 games is Beowulf.

Touche'

But it was returned within a couple of days. Since then I have exchanged those funds for tasty chicken and a bus ticket, amongst other things.

I think I'm the only one I know who isn't excited about the new Mega Man. Platformers have come such a long way since then that mega man games, while fun as hell back in the days and many consider classic, feel extremely restrictive and unfun in today's market.

Just because a game is a classic doesn't mean it can't age. Some do and some don't.

I've never been into platformers. I hate jumping puzzles, and always have since the original Pitfall (even though I loved Pitfall - fuck the jumping shit really got on my tits). I still hate jumping puzzles in FPS games, so the less of those they do, the better. That doesn't make me any less a traditional gamer, it's just not a genre I give two shits about.

Super Mario Galaxy though is worth going through the jumping puzzles for.

Hey, a funny VG cats.

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I'm not excited about the new MM9 because I've had 16bit era megamans on the GBA and DS for a while now. Maybe not quite the same structure as Mega Man 1-3, but then, that was great in the early 90s. I wanted a hi-def network transmission. I didn't get it. I will not buy MM9. That would require updating my Wii anyway. Which means plugging it in.

That comic was so apropos. And funny.